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masher81 03-10-2014 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by andyhitman (Post 13082521)
a wee bit of tech advice is needed if possible,,,,,,,, right i have loads of grip but on the odd time i push the buggy past that and the grip drops to zero,,,,, now my question is what can i do if any thing too have a gentle drop off of grip so as least it is in control and not a wipe out, as i know i can push this buggy real hard but tend to not push 100% as i hate it dropping off the grip as quick as it does

any advice would be great advance thanks


I am not sure what grip you are referring to (Forward Bite, Side Bite). If you are talking about side bite. I would try increasing your camber a little. I have found that if the caber isn't correct the car will have plenty of side bite... then suddenly lose traction.

andyhitman 03-10-2014 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by MattDub (Post 13082991)
Where do you find it looses grip? Mid corner?

mid corner to where you start to put the hammer down, but if i was to let it roll out of the corner it is fine just when i put the hammer down it goes some times big style, i have now lengthed the rear camber links

andyhitman 03-10-2014 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by masher81 (Post 13083360)
I am not sure what grip you are referring to (Forward Bite, Side Bite). If you are talking about side bite. I would try increasing your camber a little. I have found that if the caber isn't correct the car will have plenty of side bite... then suddenly lose traction.

when you say increase camber i take it you mean more - camber and not + camber?????

T.O.M 03-10-2014 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by toofless (Post 12975777)
WHICH LIFE PACKS WILL FIT IN THE BATTERY BOX?

Anyone knows? Will a battery with dimensions: 54x30,5x31,2 mm fit? Thank's.

MattDub 03-10-2014 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by andyhitman (Post 13083643)
mid corner to where you start to put the hammer down, but if i was to let it roll out of the corner it is fine just when i put the hammer down it goes some times big style, i have now lengthed the rear camber links

Sounds like you need more camber gain. Shorter rear link would help with that. More static camber would help too but it might make the rear a little loose on straight line acceleration.

Hoese37 03-10-2014 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by T.O.M (Post 13084019)
Anyone knows? Will a battery with dimensions: 54x30,5x31,2 mm fit? Thank's.

It should fit. Mine is 31x34x56

JsK 03-10-2014 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by andyhitman (Post 13082521)
a wee bit of tech advice is needed if possible,,,,,,,, right i have loads of grip but on the odd time i push the buggy past that and the grip drops to zero,,,,, now my question is what can i do if any thing too have a gentle drop off of grip so as least it is in control and not a wipe out, as i know i can push this buggy real hard but tend to not push 100% as i hate it dropping off the grip as quick as it does

any advice would be great advance thanks

Tires are a huge part of this. The short pin, stiff sidewall tires generate more grip but loose traction more abruptly. The taller pin tires are smoother and break away more progressively. Savoya ran battlestars for a reason at the DNC and it had a lot to do with how easy they are to drive fast.

After tires I would try a little less front grip with some of the rear changes that have been suggested. More front droop, less aggressive akerman hole, more caster/kickup, less toe out or maybe a larger sway bar. In the rear you can try a shorter wheel base, shorter camber link, lower the inner camber link, heavier rear diff fluid. Thinner center diff fluid may also help.

If it where me I would try free simple things first like a front akerman change and shorter wheelbase, or maybe a some more front droop and a camber link change.

Take a little steering away and try getting a little more on power grip.

BigInJapan 03-10-2014 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by andyhitman (Post 13083643)
mid corner to where you start to put the hammer down, but if i was to let it roll out of the corner it is fine just when i put the hammer down it goes some times big style, i have now lengthed the rear camber links

I had this happening too, under power out of a corner if it got too much throttle it would 180. The most effective thing I came across was a thicker front swaybar combined with shorter wheelbase. Took away a bit of steering, but helped the grip under power. Give the shorter wheelbase a try even if you don't have the thicker sway bar yet.

08supermoto 03-10-2014 07:43 PM

tank pics
 
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Originally Posted by G SquareD (Post 13081644)
Cool. Please post pics :sneaky:

Make sure you put the washer that comes with the kit above the tank....
It should be:
screw
washer
tank
fuel line
double O-rings
tank mounting post....

That's How I have it.

Attachment 1175885

G SquareD 03-10-2014 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by 08supermoto (Post 13085150)
Make sure you put the washer that comes with the kit above the tank....
It should be:
screw
washer
tank
fuel line
double O-rings
tank mounting post....

That's How I have it.

Attachment 1175885

Cool thanks for the pics. How long of fuel line are you using for the extra cushion? 5mm? You did it on both tank posts?

BigInJapan 03-10-2014 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by 08supermoto (Post 13085150)
Make sure you put the washer that comes with the kit above the tank....
It should be:
screw
washer
tank
fuel line
double O-rings
tank mounting post....

That's How I have it.

Attachment 1175885

WOAH. You got that tank skyridin'
That's probably high enough to negatively affect handling when full
And how do you fit a stock body over that? Mine rubs at the tanks factory height

andyhitman 03-11-2014 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by BigInJapan (Post 13084974)
I had this happening too, under power out of a corner if it got too much throttle it would 180. The most effective thing I came across was a thicker front swaybar combined with shorter wheelbase. Took away a bit of steering, but helped the grip under power. Give the shorter wheelbase a try even if you don't have the thicker sway bar yet.

thanks for your info here i thought it was only me it was happening too, what i forgot to say was that the weather here has not had a dry day so track is always been wet plus it is astro not dirt, and yes when i got the buggy i ordered every sway bar front and back there was think im not 100% sure 2.6 front and 2.5 rear or it is the other way round cant remember as not home so cant look,,,,,,,, i do know i run toe out the the front at least 1 degree maybe more

DBL15 03-11-2014 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by BigInJapan (Post 13085462)
WOAH. You got that tank skyridin'
That's probably high enough to negatively affect handling when full
And how do you fit a stock body over that? Mine rubs at the tanks factory height

Nah I run 8 to 10mm of tubing and it don't rub on the body at all

I don't run the o rings though on mine as the fuel tube is enough I have found

masher81 03-11-2014 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by andyhitman (Post 13083645)
when you say increase camber i take it you mean more - camber and not + camber?????

Yes I mean more negative camber. Sorry for the confusion. Also, I am running my rear links:

Hub second from inside.
Tower Inside bottom hole.

08supermoto 03-11-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by G SquareD (Post 13085370)
Cool thanks for the pics. How long of fuel line are you using for the extra cushion? 5mm? You did it on both tank posts?

Yes, I did it on both tank post and my fuel tubing is 6mm.






Originally Posted by BigInJapan (Post 13085462)
WOAH. You got that tank skyridin'
That's probably high enough to negatively affect handling when full
And how do you fit a stock body over that? Mine rubs at the tanks factory height

I really Doubt it will bother any of the performance of the buggy.....The fuel tubing acts a shock absorber... With my body on I see no noticeable difference... Car still drives awesome!
Plus I'd rather deal with changing my setup before settling with A DNF.

Here's a pic with my body on...
Attachment 1176058


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