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Slfmde 03-09-2018 03:02 PM

Is there a wiki or single post with info about “must do” upgrades and setups people run? I’m new to rc went from a Vikar Bison to Arrma Outcast within two weeks. Now I want to build a MT410 but want to make sure I choose the best setup to take abuse.

Thanks!

nismoflip 03-10-2018 08:01 AM

You’ll pretty much have to thumb through the pages in this thread for the best information. Other than that you can check out Big Squid RC’s test setup ,which is a good one, here:

https://www.bigsquidrc.com/tekno-rc-...-truck-review/

Or watch YouTube videos.

The truck doesn’t really need upgrades other than a metal servo horn. Tekno makes a nice one but there are others. I’d just run it stock first. If you bust the plastic shock caps, upgrade to aluminum. If you strip the spur, buy the steel one.

For aftermarket upgrades, check out:

https://www.m2cracing.com/main.sc

https://tboneracing.net

DE Racing

The only other comment I can make is you might also want to consider an ET48.3 and run monster truck tires. If you have your heart set on the MT410 then by all means buy one. I love mine. It’s just that you already own the Outcast which is a wheelie-popping short wheelbase chassis. The longer chassis ET48.3 facilitates high speed stability and huge 6S power setups (but you can run 6S on the MT410 as well). Monster truck bodies are not as easy to source but not impossible or you can just run the stock ET48.3 body. Something to consider.

Be careful, once you buy a Tekno you can’t just have one. I bought an MT410, ET48.3, EB48SL, and EB48.4 all within a month. And I don’t even race LOL.

StickyNuggz 03-11-2018 09:46 PM

I would love a set too if possible overkill paypal ready appreciate it

0verkill 03-13-2018 03:00 AM

The aluminum steering top plates should be arriving sometime this week.

Steel_Rain 03-13-2018 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by 0verkill (Post 15181436)
The aluminum steering top plates should be arriving sometime this week.

Nice, keep us all informed.

Darkgenerals 03-14-2018 09:37 PM

Do the current mt410 kits come with the updated ackerman arm and steering parts? I'm about to order a kit and will add that to the order if need be.

Any one else running a 6s setup? I plan to run a Hobbywing xerun xr8 plus and 2200kv motor on 6s.

chainsaw10 03-15-2018 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by Darkgenerals (Post 15183289)
Do the current mt410 kits come with the updated ackerman arm and steering parts? I'm about to order a kit and will add that to the order if need be.

Any one else running a 6s setup? I plan to run a Hobbywing xerun xr8 plus and 2200kv motor on 6s.

Sure you can run 6s on that setup. But it’ll most likely get nice and toasty very quickly...especially in your Texas heat. Just bash for 30 seconds at a time, then a 30 minute break in between:)

Really though..depends what you’re doing, how you drive and what size tires. If your going to do a hard nonstop crazy bash for a whole 6s pack you’ll probably fry everything quickly. If you’re easy on it , or doing some speed runs you’ll be ok.
If I personally ran 6s on that system with my driving style I would probably see some smoke within the first couple runs. I destroyed an xr8 esc running 4s on my MT410 when I first got it.

The kit doesn’t come with the updated steering.

vettehigh 03-15-2018 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by Darkgenerals (Post 15183289)
Do the current mt410 kits come with the updated ackerman arm and steering parts? I'm about to order a kit and will add that to the order if need be.

Any one else running a 6s setup? I plan to run a Hobbywing xerun xr8 plus and 2200kv motor on 6s.

Never knew there was an issue with the MT410 ackerman arm/steering parts??

Darkgenerals 03-15-2018 07:21 AM

There is an updated steering part set that gives you a little bit extra throw.

Lowbrowroyalty 03-15-2018 04:21 PM

Hey Peoples,

I've been building and flying Heli's, but its a lonely and tedious venture. Some friends have decked out nitro trucks they run around, so I decided to build a truck, my first. And now I have a MT410. F-ing sweet to just crash something over and over without bombing it into pieces.. But alas it is in pieces after just a couple hard days. Littler bastard lived a tough short life so far.

Trashed rear gear box.. rear diff. pinion bearing grenaded into little specs and slivers. That took out the the diff. pinion and ring gear. While it was down I tore the whole thing back apart, fun to tinker with. Found that I massively tweaked the front right suspension arm, twisted the CVA shaft, and possibly loosened the front drive case. What kind of play do these have in them? (I don't currently have a working case to compare). My front case is shimmed nicely for play perpendicular to the main driveshaft, but has play in the orientation of the main driveshaft(front of vehicle to back of vehicle).

Additionally, what are your thoughts on building a body out of a composite? Would it be too abusive to the truck? Possibly too rigid. Maybe cut the tires. Just a few of my reservations. I enjoy building molds, and bagging carbon and cores into all manner of things. I've got carbon, kevlar, glass, and various materials on hand. I was thinking a Kevlar/Carbon/Glass body might be a cool look, and quite tough. And I hate painting. Surprisingly, with all the damage I incurred, my lexan body is still pretty decent, most damage seems to have come from using the rotational power of the wheels to right the vehicle after a crash.. probably won't do that anymore.

Anyway, I am new to the forum, and the above is my intro. I've enjoyed all the info you guys share.

Thanks!

Tyler

Slfmde 03-15-2018 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by nismoflip (Post 15179163)
You’ll pretty much have to thumb through the pages in this thread for the best information

Thanks for all the info! I went with an Evul Emprie motor, Tekin RX8, Protek 370 and TBR outside. This is very addicting I’m eying the ET48.3 now.

vettehigh 03-15-2018 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Lowbrowroyalty (Post 15183992)
Hey Peoples,

I've been building and flying Heli's, but its a lonely and tedious venture. Some friends have decked out nitro trucks they run around, so I decided to build a truck, my first. And now I have a MT410. F-ing sweet to just crash something over and over without bombing it into pieces.. But alas it is in pieces after just a couple hard days. Littler bastard lived a tough short life so far.

Trashed rear gear box.. rear diff. pinion bearing grenaded into little specs and slivers. That took out the the diff. pinion and ring gear. While it was down I tore the whole thing back apart, fun to tinker with. Found that I massively tweaked the front right suspension arm, twisted the CVA shaft, and possibly loosened the front drive case. What kind of play do these have in them? (I don't currently have a working case to compare). My front case is shimmed nicely for play perpendicular to the main driveshaft, but has play in the orientation of the main driveshaft(front of vehicle to back of vehicle).

Additionally, what are your thoughts on building a body out of a composite? Would it be too abusive to the truck? Possibly too rigid. Maybe cut the tires. Just a few of my reservations. I enjoy building molds, and bagging carbon and cores into all manner of things. I've got carbon, kevlar, glass, and various materials on hand. I was thinking a Kevlar/Carbon/Glass body might be a cool look, and quite tough. And I hate painting. Surprisingly, with all the damage I incurred, my lexan body is still pretty decent, most damage seems to have come from using the rotational power of the wheels to right the vehicle after a crash.. probably won't do that anymore.

Anyway, I am new to the forum, and the above is my intro. I've enjoyed all the info you guys share.

Thanks!

Tyler

You must be the only one in the world with an MT410 with that damage :nod:

Lowbrowroyalty 03-15-2018 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by vettehigh (Post 15184066)
You must be the only one in the world with an MT410 with that damage :nod:

I am happy to except the honor.
A little performance enhancing drinking was involved, but it was still hard work.

stewdog 03-15-2018 07:28 PM

What's up lowbrowroyality, sounds like MT410 Killer or Tekno Killer would have been appropriate screen names as well.:)

I have this "ultimate" body on my MT410.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=657vWk0VivM&t=2s

+ YouTube Video
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I can never figure out how to embed videos here.
The body I have is very heavy and puts stress on the diff housings where the shock towers mount. I have snapped some front diff housings because of it. The body has been tough as hell and I have done some really bad driving to test it out. If it could be made at the same strength, but thinner and lighter it would indeed be closer to the ultimate body.

Lowbrowroyalty 03-15-2018 08:21 PM

Interesting thing I've come to find with RC Cars, they are quite expensive. At least compared to Heli. Wouldn't have guessed.... I've spent way more money on this little machine! It must be like a dollars per smiles price structure.

Anyway, I've saw those body's during my initial figure out which truck will be better than everyone else's truck research phase. My initial take is that they are quite thick, and potentially too rigid. And by its construction, probably quite heavy. But, I am only making these assumptions based on the youtube videos. So, my opinion is probably worthless. And I completely understand the premise. Body's are seemingly expensive, particularly considering it is just a vac formed piece of plastic.. that you still have to cut out and paint!

My approach to body design would be based on my own requirements, one of those requirements would not be indestructibility. Rather, I'd opt for replaceability. I would want to produce something that is no stronger than the components that support it, but not necessarily less so. After all, the body is produced on my own premise... I am still waiting for parts that were shipped from Tekno on the 8th.

Carbon is quite fragile, glass is mighty resilient, Kevlar is pretty impact worthy. But a light bagged schedule of the lot, glass on the exterior surfaces. Would be thin enough to cut you, relatively flexible, and possibly "bash" (I just learned this word) worthy. Especially with a specialty toughened resin. Better yet, a two part mold incorporating a core. Even just a low density AB foam would probably add a silly amount of resilience at very little weight penalty. And who doesn't like looking at Carbon, or breaking it. I just had an idea, chop gun carbon MT410 body. Well damn. Maybe experiment with vac forming some different materials.

Its probably obvious... waiting on these parts is leaving me with idle hands. I need the cycle. Operate, Destroy, Repair, Operate, Destroy, Repair, Operate. If I had the work bench space left, I'd have flown a heli into a tree just to get a fix. Escape to my workshop trailer, with its nice bean bag chair, beautiful tools, music, and no girlfriend.


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