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Awesomatix A800/A800R

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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)

Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases

January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates

AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)

Below OLD Rear Motor Content ---
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A800 Information

New Parts

June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.

Kit Updates

May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)

Setups

Major Race Wins

2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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01-14-2019, 06:05 AM

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Wait the site said is out of stock already.
If really need these tools but cannot purchase it maybe I need to change to purchase another car

I don't have any choice, right?

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01-14-2019, 07:17 AM

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Wait the site said is out of stock already.
If really need these tools but cannot purchase it maybe I need to change to purchase another car

I don't have any choice, right?

You NEED some way to measure caster and make it equal side to side... doodles, pointer on setup station, extra hex wrench, a camber gauge turned sideways, protractor, a calipers + math... lots of ways to do it until you obtain proper tools.

I haven't purchased the other tools yet, but I haven't had the car for long either. So far, thin wall sockets and a stubby ratchet (all of which I already owned) have worked perfectly. I'm able to grasp the damper and diff bodies well enough by hand to not need those tools. I may buy the tools down the road though.

The car is worth it.

01-14-2019, 07:27 AM

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OK, how about damper tool, i think damper is the most precision kind, then don't need tool too?

01-14-2019, 07:53 AM

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Apologies if this is a silly question. IS there a way of buying a mid motor car without buying an upgrade on top of an existing kit? Puts it well out of my price range.

01-14-2019, 09:22 AM

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Apologies if this is a silly question. IS there a way of buying a mid motor car without buying an upgrade on top of an existing kit? Puts it well out of my price range.

Sadly, no

Oleg-- people are starting to ask publicly now

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01-14-2019, 10:10 AM

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01-14-2019, 10:13 AM

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OK, how about damper tool, i think damper is the most precision kind, then don't need tool too?

Dampers come pre-assembled, if you're content with the stock cst oil. Once you have the kit and see how things work, you can decide what you need. Don't let immediate lack of tool availability deter you. They will be in stock again, and in the meantime there are other methods available.

01-14-2019, 10:17 AM

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Speaking of tools and dampers...

How are you all setting the depth of P45R ball consistently? What is the preferred distance for it to be inserted? What effect does this have on dampning?

01-14-2019, 10:30 AM

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Speaking of tools and dampers...

How are you all setting the depth of P45R ball consistently? What is the preferred distance for it to be inserted? What effect does this have on dampning?

My understanding is they are for volume compensation. When I build my shocks, my last step is to take a 1.5mm hex driver and push the piston all the way down into the body. Go very slowly, then you can get the oil out as well. I think RC Maker had a video on it on Petite RC.

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01-14-2019, 10:30 AM

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Speaking of tools and dampers...

How are you all setting the depth of P45R ball consistently? What is the preferred distance for it to be inserted? What effect does this have on dampning?

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01-14-2019, 11:54 AM

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I wish a MM kit was available. I just bought xah and conversion

01-15-2019, 05:58 AM

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Who is using the cross brace for top deck on the MM conversion? Not seeing many set ups that are using it.

01-15-2019, 06:09 AM

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Who is using the cross brace for top deck on the MM conversion? Not seeing many set ups that are using it.

it all depends on the grip of the track I usually don’t use it , last Sunday I did use it,occasionally I only use it with only 2 screws with a 1mm shim in between)see pic) It all depends on the track an how the car feels to me

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