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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 11-21-2018, 09:42 AM
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I asked this question to a guy i race with w/ some solid feedback. But i want to see what you guys do to do 2 things on your A800s...

1. how do you remove your axles from your hubs succesfully w/o breaking shit? i'm wanting to clean my bearings

2. how do you remove the plastic pieces (dont remember the part number) on the AT21 w/o breaking them? I want to replace them w/ the AT21s to see how that runs
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Originally Posted by phatboislim
I asked this question to a guy i race with w/ some solid feedback. But i want to see what you guys do to do 2 things on your A800s...

1. how do you remove your axles from your hubs succesfully w/o breaking shit? i'm wanting to clean my bearings

2. how do you remove the plastic pieces (dont remember the part number) on the AT21 w/o breaking them? I want to replace them w/ the AT21s to see how that runs
1 what could break just removing the axles ?
2 I would revise that you should replace the plastic cup due of wear and tear
changing over to AT21S will lower your roll center
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I'm new to awesomatix hence the questions before i go to work, hence the questions i would like answers to
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Use a flat object to press the axles out. I would also just buy new P03s, it is difficult to remove them without breaking them, and then they will be sloppier for the new balls.
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Use a flat object to press the axles out. I would also just buy new P03s, it is difficult to remove them without breaking them, and then they will be sloppier for the new balls.
so i can basically press it against my glass table and it pop out...but the plastic P03s I guess it is, i just need to pray that i have enough of those to replace. thanks
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Originally Posted by phatboislim
so i can basically press it against my glass table and it pop out...but the plastic P03s I guess it is, i just need to pray that i have enough of those to replace. thanks
Those pieces and also the plastic C clips that hold the arms on the cups are pieces that you should probably have an inventory of. They are cheap enough and by running the car now for a few months, I've seen that I've already used quite a few of those. (Yes, I hit the boards quite a bit)

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Does anyone have a good starting setup for small techinical black carpet track. Xah evo 21.5
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Is everyone running the long arms with the mmcx-a? Also at21s?
I haven't seen many set ups posted for the conversion yet. Thanks for any help.
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Is everyone running the long arms with the mmcx-a? Also at21s?
I haven't seen many set ups posted for the conversion yet. Thanks for any help.
i have one that i have been working on with the long arms on black crc carpet (no AT21s) , so far so good made a little change after this weekends race and i going to try it out this week. pm me your email and ill send it to you.
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i have one that i have been working on with the long arms on black crc carpet (no AT21s) , so far so good made a little change after this weekends race and i going to try it out this week. pm me your email and ill send it to you.
Giving your setup a try tonight.

Max Mächler also posted his MMCX-A setup. Might give that a try for Sunday...
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Giving your setup a try tonight.

Max Mächler also posted his MMCX-A setup. Might give that a try for Sunday...
cool ! let me know*
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Thinking of switching out to long arms on my Us MMX what does the longer arms change as fas as overal setup of the car in regards to roll centres and such, and also can anyone explain what adding or subr]traction shims under the Ats 21’s does to the handling of the car. Thanks Ron
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Alright, I pulled the trigger and ordered the xah evo. Is this thread the best place for information on the car? Setups on petitrc, anywhere else? With no local support I will be relying on you guys to help me out.
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Originally Posted by trilerian
Alright, I pulled the trigger and ordered the xah evo. Is this thread the best place for information on the car? Setups on petitrc, anywhere else? With no local support I will be relying on you guys to help me out.
Awesomatix USA Setups https://drive.google.com/drive/mobil...Tg?usp=sharing

Watch all of Ryan Maker's videos which are on PetitRC.
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I've got a local track with carpet that I'm thinking about starting to race again at. Which chassis you y'all recommend? the hard or the soft alloy spec car?

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