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Old 10-30-2005, 09:26 PM   #16
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The car was dialed I know because each round you passed me at least 2 or 3 times. Then Chris drove it for the last of the triple A-main and passed me twice. My wife will be contacting you soon for my Christmas gift so save one for me so I can open it up for Christmas.
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So I can assume Brian won A1 and A2.

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So I can assume Brian won A1 and A2.

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yes indeed.... the car was super fast and stable
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Hi Dom
I remenbered sometime a few months ago summer you ran your 12 scale out door...What foam did yopu have on? and set up?
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I remenbered sometime a few months ago summer you ran your 12 scale out door...What foam did yopu have on? and set up?
Hey Franko, I actually never ran my car outdoor....

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That's funny well did anybody anywhere ran the car on asphalt at all ?
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I think that was the protrak guy...... Crimson_Eagle???????
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I think that was the protrak guy...... Crimson_Eagle???????
Thanks Sushiboy
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Hey all,
I have been so busy on all of this stuff, I just needed to spend the last 4 hours or so with family doing important stuff... like carve pumpkins with a dremel

It's true, I did win in 2 and then charged it up to let Chris Perry (who has never driven my car before) to take it for the victory laps in A3. And he pulled it off! I was truely impressed. Steve Degarmo took brides maid honors all weekend and we even denied him A3. Actually Steve was quite fast and really deserves credit. Steve took 2nd in A1 and in A2 by less then 8 seconds in each. He really drove well. Handing the car to Chris, really showed to me that the car does work well for others instead of just well for myself. Get this, Steve took the transmitter from Chris at the conclusion of the main and ran for another two minutes! These SMC IB3800's are something else. I am quite certain that my loaner rental car stunt will likely sell a few more kits. I forgot about the time that I lent it to Allan... I just don't know how he's going to explain to his wife that he needs a Slapmaster for xmas.

For the final qual this morning, I still wanted to focus on the rolling speed of the car. I chose to increase the caster and raise the upper arm up to the center hole, plus reduce some of the toe out. Increasing caster will increase power on steering and can cause some off power steering due to the "jacking" effect that has on the chassis. This can also cause a traction roll. Knowing this, I took the arms up to the center hole on the front block and reduced the toe out to about 1/2 out per side. I left the bat's at one side forward and one side back. The car was pretty edgy but you could tell that it was getting through the corners pretty quick. It yeilded a 9.6 and a prety mean streak of 9.8-.9's to up the anty to 48/8:02. For the main, I only took about an 1/8th of a turn out of each turnbuckle to reduce the toe even more. It's about -1/4 now. The car really hustled the corners.

A1 had a good start. I was a bit nervous and lacked the focus I really wanted, but I had a corner lead over Steve. About a minute and a half in, I regained that focus and pulled away finishing about 3/4's ahead of 2nd. A2, I was more relaxed. Steve was driving the wheels off of his ride and would not roll over. He shaddowed me for 3 minutes, but I would eventually be able to pull away. The car could turn the same lap for 10 minutes. The consistancy payed off as I wrapped up the Mains in 2.

Rain City did a great job at this years Slugfest. The new carpet was just amazing. It was great to see old friends again. Keith Yu had taken tq in mod foam sedan and was back in top form as he won the class in the 3rd main. Many don't realise the tallent that Keith has. I know that Welyin, Peter and Andrew gave it there all. Congrat's to Chris Perry for not only taking the 12 stock A3, but for capturing the Stock Touring title.

Here's the set up that I used for this weekends race:

Carpet: CRC
compound: TQ Plus 8 minute sauce apllied about 15 minutes, full rear, fat 1/4" in front.
Tires; Parma pink rear 1.84, Jaco wrap purple 1.72
gearing; 27/96 1.63 roll out
Front end: .020 springs, 5 caster, 1/1.5 camber, -1/4 degree toe out per side, pin: center hole, 3.25mm ride height.
Middle: shock: 30wt, green spring; tubes: .020/.022 springs, Xray 50wt, Sylva med steel t-bar with 2 spacers.
Bat Location: 1 back, 1 forward or 50/50
Rear: 3.25mm ride height, pod level.
Body; Protoform Speed 12
Motor: EA Monster, Fantom 309 brushes, green - spring, red + spring

I am off to the shop for a few last minute order filling Monday before I head of to the part of Florida that did not get washed away for Gas Nat's. I will return on the 8th.

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Old 11-16-2005, 10:23 PM   #25
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Hi all!
Well, it's only been a few weeks and the MS2.3 has started taking the top awards at the local NW race tracks. I was able to top qualify and win the 6th annual Slugfest at Rain City in Lynnwood Washington in stock class. I was able to put an 8 second spread on local driver Steve Degarmo to snatch the pole and was able to put the race away in 2 in the triple A's. I lent the car to run the final A to Chris Perry who had qualified 4th. He immediately made up a spot and was leaning on Steve in the opening minute while getting used to the car. 3 minutes in, Chris made the pass for the lead and never looked back. Chris now owns a MS2.3... so does Steve.

Last weekend, I traveled to Spokane Washington for the 1st leg of a 6 race NW Series. I have never visited this track before. It was a little tighter then home, the lanes were a little more dangerous. But the car handled quite well with the Jaco Purple/Parma Pink tires. There was a club race scheduled for Fri night that I entered into stock class. There were two heats, I was definitely seated into the heat with lesser ability while local driver Chris Robertson was in the clean heat. Chris layed down the benchmark run, while I tried to avoid traffic. In the 2nd heat, I was able to just nudge Chris's run by a 10th of a second. When the mains came, I was tuned up for severe traffic, while Chris was not and was quickly swallowed by the pack. I went on to win the club race which was a triple A format. A close chase came from Bob Stormer, "the" Bob from Stormer Hobbies! As the weekend progressed, a mod class developed for series race. I was able to lay down the times to beat every round in a qual point senario, taking TQ. I changed tires to Jaco pink/double pink wraps. I should have read the boxes better as this proved to be a handful of tire to try to drive. Being stubborn, I tried to tune the car into the tires, when I should have given up and at least switched to purple fronts. The car never really did get settled in like I had hoped, but it got the job done. I was then able to take the first two A's and had the luxory to sit out the 3rd.

Just tonight, I was able to take two batteries back at the test track with my new LRP brushless system. I have to say, for a first time, I have no idea what I am doing with this system. I suspect that I am over geared, because I went 7:15 and it was hell fast! I tried the pink/double pink tires once again and found that it just was not a usable combo. I went to purple/pink and found it much more driveable, but still got edgy towards the end of the run. I will make some chassis changes and continue testing with this new form of power. It was fast. I will have to brush up (sorry) on brushless to see if I can "nail" the set up. So far, I have set the esc to #3 on the drag brake mode and have it set on "kill".

Feel free to clue me in.

Conversion kits are becoming more readily available, thrust kits are in stock, so are foam bumpers. T-shirsts need to be ordered and will require more time.

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Old 11-19-2005, 12:24 AM   #26
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Brian I am putting together my car now and wanted to know if the U2251X Kwik Clips are included in the kit and if not who makes them? Does Debbie carry these clips?
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:37 AM   #27
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Hey, in case Brian doesn't come on for a bit...

Those are made by Schumacher. They are essentially the caster clips on the front upper arms of gas sedans. If you have some spare in your box, get the thinnest ones, just use those.

FYI, Xray and Corally use them on their hingepins to change wheelbase, I used the XRAY ones on my MS.

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Old 11-19-2005, 12:41 AM   #28
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Thanks Dom for the life of me I could not picture what they where. I probably have extras from my nitro sedans. I will try them out tomorrow.
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Yep, Dom's got me covered once again. They are effectively 1/8" diameter by 1mm thick quick change clips. I made some today out of .020 thick lexan to make some half thickness shims. I would like to find a good source for these clips other then purchasing an entire tree of parts that you use just a portion of the package. Losi and Associated also have these style of hinge pin/carrier clips for adjusting suspensions, just make sure that they are not too large that they interfere with the spokes on the wheels when installed.

I am looking into doing some further packaging for the MS2.3. I am looking at putting together a conversion kit with upper plate and damper tubes. Of course there were be a price increase for this deluxe kit, but it would eliminate the hassle of trying to find special parts. I would have to make purchases of large quantities to be able to make this available. I need to decide if a conversion kit for $200 would sell.

Other news, Weylin Rose has jumped on board with the Slapmaster Team. Weylin has really matured as a driver in the last year as he has traveled to many high profile electric events. As a veteran Schumacher pilot, Weylin likes to dabble in 12th scale as well. I built him a car just last week, bolted in Novak's latest brushless system and hit the track for some testing. I have been testing with tires and the LRP brushless system. It may seem the brushless systems may change the face of 12 scale forever. While I am still tuning my car and motor/esc combo in, Weylin hit the rug at full speed. I was impressed to say the least. He ran at least 4 tenths faster then my average and the car looked awesome. Time might still be an issue, but with good bat's and "fine tune", Weylin should be literally the new kid in town. I was really happy for him. Guys at the track asked me if that upset me that he is going to smoke me with my own car design. "No way, I am thrilled... it's all about the car". I asked Weylin what he felt he needs to do to the car. He said: "I can't think of anything!" He said: "it's fine the way it is."

How cool is that? We might play with the shock some more. I need to find the right tire combo to run with the LRP. I still have too much push with the lack of off power drag from the brushless system, but the run time is incrediable. As we learn more, we will have a set up posted here on rctech for the new crc ozite carpet with the new brushless systems.

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I was very happy to throw the car out there and have it turn a faster lap than anyone has done on that track at all, but it wasnt just a 1 lap wonder, the car worked well for the whole run. There's still a few things on the setup we need to get worked out.

I need to screw around with tuning the BL system in through the radio, but the Novak 5.5 has tons of rip. I turned the drag brake all the way off actually. The Velociti seems to have more natural drag in the motor than the Neo. Brian turned his drag brake all the way up where mine is set to off. I've been running my old Fusion 37's with not so great runtime, when I get my new EA IB3800's runtime wont be an issue .

I'm very impressed with how well the car works for just the first few runs. I cant wait until carpet nats , I just wish there was a 1/12 class at the Novak race. But then it wouldnt be the "US Touring Car Championships" now would it .
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