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jgil089 05-13-2019 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by Nerobro (Post 15449011)
Nope, i'm talking about the ring and pinion gear that is on the outside of the diff. I believe I"ve broken 4 pinions now.

You have 2 options. GPM make the gears in metal, so you can buy the full set including the internals which is expensive, or just the ring gear which is also expensive for a single gear but less so. RCJaz have the GPM gears

Or grab metal parts bag from the DF02 and the gear cases. This gives you enough to build 2 diffs for the price of a single GPM set. You need to file the pinion down a bit. I'm pretty sure its bag a, part 9400152, but you better check.

As a bonus the bag includes other bits like a 19T steel pinion which is a good match for a 13.5T and a bunch of those annoying self tappers Tamiya insist on using (I love Tamiya but wish they'd use proper hex head screws and bearings instead of bushings). Oh and another Tamiya hex wrench, you can never have enough of those.

I find that the metal gears slow the car considerably on the stock motor (have a couple TT02B's for my 5yo and his friends) but the 13.5T brushless setup like you suggested is the perfect match for the chassis and you don't notice the car being slower with metal gears on this setup.

Nerobro 05-13-2019 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by jgil089 (Post 15449039)
You have 2 options. GPM make the gears in metal, so you can buy the full set including the internals which is expensive, or just the ring gear which is also expensive for a single gear but less so. RCJaz have the GPM gears

Or grab metal parts bag from the DF02 and the gear cases. This gives you enough to build 2 diffs for the price of a single GPM set. You need to file the pinion down a bit. I'm pretty sure its bag a, part 9400152, but you better check.

As a bonus the bag includes other bits like a 19T steel pinion which is a good match for a 13.5T and a bunch of those annoying self tappers Tamiya insist on using (I love Tamiya but wish they'd use proper hex head screws and bearings instead of bushings). Oh and another Tamiya hex wrench, you can never have enough of those.

I find that the metal gears slow the car considerably on the stock motor (have a couple TT02B's for my 5yo and his friends) but the 13.5T brushless setup like you suggested is the perfect match for the chassis and you don't notice the car being slower with metal gears on this setup.

The GPM gears (which I own..) are just the ring gears. Sadly.

So.. those gear sets, are the three gear sets, like in a TT01, so I'll need the TT01 casings to match that. STill, not a bad deal.

.................................. This is such a bad idea. But I really want this TT02b to work. hah.

jgil089 05-13-2019 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by Nerobro (Post 15449041)
The GPM gears (which I own..) are just the ring gears. Sadly.

So.. those gear sets, are the three gear sets, like in a TT01, so I'll need the TT01 casings to match that. STill, not a bad deal.

.................................. This is such a bad idea. But I really want this TT02b to work. hah.

Yep the DF02 gear set is the 3 gear so you need the cases

If you have the ring gear already...

https://www.rcjaz.co.nz/tamiya-tt02b-steel-propeller-shaft-gear-1pc-for-tt02-gpm-tt2100g2-p-90071612.html

thats the one you need right? There is also the complete set

https://www.rcjaz.co.nz/tamiya-tt02-steel-ring-gear-bevel-8pcs-set-for-tt02b-gpm-tt2100-p-90070804.html

you should see some of the builds on tamiyaclub, go nuts on the TT02, end up spending more than a TA07 /DB01 and they still won't perform as well. Fun though

r_torres 05-14-2019 02:16 PM

any brands that produce hex screws for the tt02? i really dislike the philips. suggestions welcome!

DaSilva3525 05-14-2019 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by r_torres (Post 15449412)
any brands that produce hex screws for the tt02? i really dislike the philips. suggestions welcome!

Yeah Racing sells a Ti screw kit for like $14. I have used them in the past and they are decent for the money for sure

Nerobro 05-14-2019 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by r_torres (Post 15449412)
any brands that produce hex screws for the tt02? i really dislike the philips. suggestions welcome!

I end up buying bulk m3 machine screws off of ebay every so often. It's not a lot of money to get all the screws you might need.

Josh L 05-14-2019 03:51 PM

Here's a decent deal on M3's and it's prime to.

r_torres 05-14-2019 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by DaSilva3525 (Post 15449424)
Yeah Racing sells a Ti screw kit for like $14. I have used them in the past and they are decent for the money for sure

sweet $15 plus shipping doesn’t bad. not like tt02 type s titanium screws that’s like about $44-$55 bucks depending where you get them.

Nerobro 05-14-2019 05:08 PM

I really recomend against buying stainless screws.

Nerobro 05-14-2019 05:12 PM

If you're gonna do it, do it right:
you'll need some countersunk too...
Really though, I go with ebay, and buy the exact kinds I need.

Stainless always goes "soft" and tears under load.

Raman 05-14-2019 07:47 PM

Magnetic bits also do not grab stainless steel screws.. which makes it more of a hassle in tight areas

r_torres 05-21-2019 12:20 AM

so i pulled the trigger and got myself a tt02rr from towerhobbies. regular shipping only took two days! great service!

looking into universal shafts. i was looking at the 54515 from xv-01. would it with the tt02rr? also should i replace front and rear? tia

JJ100179 05-21-2019 07:13 AM

You have to to go with Tamiya 53792 if you want to use original Tamiya parts. 54515 will not fit TT-02 RR machine, they are too long.

Regards
Michael

r_torres 05-21-2019 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by JJ100179 (Post 15452901)
You have to to go with Tamiya 53792 if you want to use original Tamiya parts. 54515 will not fit TT-02 RR machine, they are too long.

Regards
Michael

would you also have to buy the cup joint to fit the universal shafts?

JJ100179 05-22-2019 04:28 AM

Not necessary...
 
...Kit stuff works fine with the universals.
But you can upgrade the grub screw secured wheel axles with spring fixed ones. (Tamiya Part number 54623)

Michael

proliteandsc 05-23-2019 03:52 PM

Need rear downforce
 
Looking to get a new body with lots of downforce in the rear. I can only use a Tamiya TT-02 body, and can't add rear wings. Anyone know which one would have the most, or what I should be looking for?

DaSilva3525 05-23-2019 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by proliteandsc (Post 15454330)
Looking to get a new body with lots of downforce in the rear. I can only use a Tamiya TT-02 body, and can't add rear wings. Anyone know which one would have the most, or what I should be looking for?

Check out the Raikiri Body from Tamiya. Comes in box stock form so you should be good to use it.

proliteandsc 05-24-2019 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by DaSilva3525 (Post 15454358)
Check out the Raikiri Body from Tamiya. Comes in box stock form so you should be good to use it.

I'll probably get that one.

Scionara05 05-24-2019 12:39 PM

The kit tires tamiya 51049 medium compound are good for what surface carpet or asphalt. Rather use them up on practice days than have them sitting in a box

Bloke 05-26-2019 10:42 PM

They're ok for ashphalt.

No good for low-grip carpet.

BladeRunner24 06-04-2019 09:04 PM

So I'm still using brushed set up on mine. What would be an appropriate brushless motor for average non racing use.

Nicadrauspro4 06-05-2019 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by BladeRunner24 (Post 15460266)
So I'm still using brushed set up on mine. What would be an appropriate brushless motor for average non racing use.

Have you upgraded the plastic dog bones and center shaft to metal/aluminum already? If so, you can use 23t, 21t or 17.5t.

BladeRunner24 06-05-2019 05:16 PM

Yea but it's on back order. Does the kv matter or just the tooth size

DaSilva3525 06-07-2019 06:01 AM

I am a die hard TC racer but have had a few Hahn trucks in the past. Being super impressed how quick / good a box stock TT01 does with a truck body got me intrigued to build my first TT02 GT style kit. This is a box stock build with bearings / USGT tires. Once I mentioned it to my local race buddies they decided to grab some TT02 kit's as well and create a new class for our track. Rules being bearings, stock pinion size and hex screws permitted. Must use Tamiya Bodies only. This should help bridge the gap between a fresh new comer and a $1200 TC set up. The cars can always be upgraded with some key parts and put into another class like VTA or Usgt even.

I opted for the new S550 GT4 stang kit and got it done :D Packed the diffs with Aw grease and the first few packs the car was on the money right off the bat. For reference the fastest VTA cars were 9.7 fast laps to 10.5 mid pack. I could click off 10.0-10.2's almost every lap with this TT02 and it looks great doing it. It's not insane fast but the Silver can always does good by me! Nice water break in with some oil on the bushings and away it rips. I still have to finish the head light buckets but I will have a Raikiri body to try shortly. Not great pics as of yet but here's a couple to get the idea :nod:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...0edc52ddad.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...d6f888bdff.jpg

JJ100179 06-07-2019 07:16 AM

It was a really good idea to do a yellow Mustang Body. Looks awesome!
​​​​​​Regards,
Michael

DaSilva3525 06-07-2019 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by JJ100179 (Post 15461383)
It was a really good idea to do a yellow Mustang Body. Looks awesome!
​​​​​​Regards,
Michael

Thanks man, Yellow is my one color wonder on my Tc's haha. I added more stickers to the stanger since the pic for some more scale effect but it turned out pretty good with the Tamiya sticker sheet.

JJ100179 06-07-2019 07:47 AM

Which is your preferred yellow?

DaSilva3525 06-07-2019 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by JJ100179 (Post 15461398)
Which is your preferred yellow?

Tamiya PS6 backed with some silver :D

f1larry 06-07-2019 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by DaSilva3525 (Post 15461346)
I am a die hard TC racer but have had a few Hahn trucks in the past. Being super impressed how quick / good a box stock TT01 does with a truck body got me intrigued to build my first TT02 GT style kit. This is a box stock build with bearings / USGT tires. Once I mentioned it to my local race buddies they decided to grab some TT02 kit's as well and create a new class for our track. Rules being bearings, stock pinion size and hex screws permitted. Must use Tamiya Bodies only. This should help bridge the gap between a fresh new comer and a $1200 TC set up. The cars can always be upgraded with some key parts and put into another class like VTA or Usgt even.

I opted for the new S550 GT4 stang kit and got it done :D Packed the diffs with Aw grease and the first few packs the car was on the money right off the bat. For reference the fastest VTA cars were 9.7 fast laps to 10.5 mid pack. I could click off 10.0-10.2's almost every lap with this TT02 and it looks great doing it. It's not insane fast but the Silver can always does good by me! Nice water break in with some oil on the bushings and away it rips. I still have to finish the head light buckets but I will have a Raikiri body to try shortly. Not great pics as of yet but here's a couple to get the idea :nod:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...0edc52ddad.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...d6f888bdff.jpg

that is very similar to Tamiya’s TCS Pro Spec class.
All you need is Yeah Racing’s adjustable motor mount and you can get the gearing you need for USGT and USVTA. I have saying for awhile that the TT02 would be a great entry spec class that allows for a chassis to be used in other classes as the driver improves

DaSilva3525 06-07-2019 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by f1larry (Post 15461460)

that is very similar to Tamiya’s TCS Pro Spec class.
All you need is Yeah Racing’s adjustable motor mount and you can get the gearing you need for USGT and USVTA. I have saying for awhile that the TT02 would be a great entry spec class that allows for a chassis to be used in other classes as the driver improves

That's cool they have a class like that, I didn't even realize. We haven't has a TCS series in Canada for a very long time but I wish I was apart of it when we did. Seems like some awesome grass root hobby oriented classes. The TT vehicles are actually pretty capable, this isn't directed at the die hard racers but these kit's are great for new comers and kids to build them selves. With little to no adjustability at first it keeps things simple and makes them focus on the drive instead of all the tuning. Tuning is great and it's one of my favourite things don't get me wrong but but some folks need less wrench time and more play for time for the enjoyment :)

chjosi 06-07-2019 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by DaSilva3525 (Post 15461346)
I am a die hard TC racer but have had a few Hahn trucks in the past. Being super impressed how quick / good a box stock TT01 does with a truck body got me intrigued to build my first TT02 GT style kit. This is a box stock build with bearings / USGT tires. Once I mentioned it to my local race buddies they decided to grab some TT02 kit's as well and create a new class for our track. Rules being bearings, stock pinion size and hex screws permitted. Must use Tamiya Bodies only. This should help bridge the gap between a fresh new comer and a $1200 TC set up. The cars can always be upgraded with some key parts and put into another class like VTA or Usgt even.

I opted for the new S550 GT4 stang kit and got it done :D Packed the diffs with Aw grease and the first few packs the car was on the money right off the bat. For reference the fastest VTA cars were 9.7 fast laps to 10.5 mid pack. I could click off 10.0-10.2's almost every lap with this TT02 and it looks great doing it. It's not insane fast but the Silver can always does good by me! Nice water break in with some oil on the bushings and away it rips. I still have to finish the head light buckets but I will have a Raikiri body to try shortly. Not great pics as of yet but here's a couple to get the idea :nod:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...0edc52ddad.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...d6f888bdff.jpg

Did you do anything to the dampers? Or just stock kit with springs only?

DaSilva3525 06-07-2019 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by chjosi (Post 15461552)
Did you do anything to the dampers? Or just stock kit with springs only?

Didn't do anything with the friction dampers other then add or remove the spring spacer for a different effect. In the past with the Hahn truck I have added grease to the friction dampers to kind of help the whole situation but I didn't this time. I may in the future I feel it does help a little or it's in the mind but the option is there lol. The car kits compared to the truck has alot less bounce and is less top heavy but mind you the Mustang body all stickered up is at 150gram which is pretty beefy


DaSilva3525 06-07-2019 02:41 PM

As seen in the pic ready to race coming in at 1380g currently with a 275-280g battery weight. Shortening the ESC wires alone was worth 10-12 grams off the top of my head but I really did it just to be tidy and neat. I also removed the orange wire right off the ESC board as I will stick with the silver can. Can always solder it back in though if I choose

GL73MAN 06-10-2019 06:34 AM

Does anyone know what the internal gear ratio is for this car? Trying to figure out a starting ratio for my local outdoor track Galaxy Hobbies...

JJ100179 06-10-2019 08:40 AM

Internal gear ratio is 2.6
​​​​

GL73MAN 06-10-2019 01:19 PM

Thank you,

So you pretty much have to do the lowest FDR allowed 64/29, and you’re still way off. Normally you would run around a 3.8 for your average size race track but thats not GT Prospec legal. 64/44 in a perfect world.

Can you use an Xray T4 gear maybe or probably not legal huh.

DaSilva3525 06-10-2019 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by GL73MAN (Post 15462966)
Thank you,

So you pretty much have to do the lowest FDR allowed 64/29, and you’re still way off. Normally you would run around a 3.8 for your average size race track but thats not GT Prospec legal. 64/44 in a perfect world.

Can you use an Xray T4 gear maybe or probably not legal huh.

What you need to do is ditch the Tamiya .6 module gear set all together. So buy the Tamiya "high speed gear set for the TT02" Which all you really need is the alum adaptor for the spur (don't use the supplied .6 module spur) Then buy a yeah racing adjustable alum motor mount and convert it to 64 pitch. You will need some wild gears to get it close to 3.8-4.2 FDR.. like a 80-82 spur spur and 50-53 pinion.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...80a1dcf1e3.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...e9659cc055.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...0b9526d61d.jpg

f1larry 06-10-2019 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by DaSilva3525 (Post 15462985)
What you need to do is ditch the Tamiya .6 module gear set all together. So buy the Tamiya "high speed gear set for the TT02" Which all you really need is the alum adaptor for the spur (don't use the supplied .6 module spur) Then buy a yeah racing adjustable alum motor mount and convert it to 64 pitch. You will need some wild gears to get it close to 3.8-4.2 FDR.. like a 80-82 spur spur and 50-53 pinion.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...80a1dcf1e3.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...e9659cc055.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...0b9526d61d.jpg

This is a great inexpensive option if you want to be able to give people a great intro spec class with a car that does have options to move to other classes that needs more flexible gearing. Unless your racing a TCS event this is a great option.

DaSilva3525 06-10-2019 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by f1larry (Post 15462992)
This is a great inexpensive option if you want to be able to give people a great intro spec class with a car that does have options to move to other classes that needs more flexible gearing. Unless your racing a TCS event this is a great option.

Absolutely! I almost want to take my box stock TT02 posted above and swap it out for a proper 64pitch FDR set and see what a stock kit geared can really do lol..

Qatmix 06-11-2019 02:40 AM



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