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Qatmix 11-20-2013 02:52 PM

I have only broke one in over 6 months and it was a large impact (So acceptable to me). I'm not an agressive or novice driver but any form of racing has its accidents.

It's the only part that's broken and that's fine as everything breaks at some point. However as also mentioned here others have had more breaks with light collisions. That's not good for a kit that's aimed at all levels from beginners upwards.

It may be because we had the first batch, but as tamiya has acknowledged the fault with new parts its safe to say that they needed a revision going forward.

djfourmoney 11-20-2013 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Qatmix (Post 12743102)
I have only broke one in over 6 months and it was a large impact (So acceptable to me). I'm not an agressive or novice driver but any form of racing has its accidents.

It's the only part that's broken and that's fine as everything breaks at some point. However as also mentioned here others have had more breaks with light collisions. That's not good for a kit that's aimed at all levels from beginners upwards.

It may be because we had the first batch, but as tamiya has acknowledged the fault with new parts its safe to say that they needed a revision going forward.

True and I agree.

Since there are no rally bodies coming on the TT-02 I really want, I have looked into getting the semi-assembled chassis as I mentioned before.

No matter what happens though, the outcome is still the same in regards to price.

Banzai - $228 (Subaru 2008 WRC body)
RcMart - $241 (Exo Body)

The price difference is because Banzai charges less for the chassis ($101 vs $119) and slightly lower shipping charges from RcMart (Hong Kong vs Japan).

That not out of my budget but its more than I wanted to spend. That includes bearings and CVA shocks because to be frank pretty much every car is coming with those, but Tamiya.

I can get the Kyosho Fazer Rally car for $202 out the door, RTR. While I can't run the TCS with it and maybe Kyosho parts are expensive + hard to find, I think I can live with that, still thinking it over.

Hasi 12-04-2013 06:07 AM

Since yesterday I can call a TT-02 my own, too :)

Bought it with the Porsche 911 Carrera RSR body - I love it! :cool:

Started to build it yesterday and equipped it with bearings, the aluminum propeller joints (54502), the aluminum propeller shaft (54501) as well as the CVA mini shocks (53619).

Haven't finisehd yet, but I'm excited to :)

visuvius 01-07-2014 10:21 AM

Does anyone have any idea if the Tamiya kits that Banzai Hobby sells come with an ESC? The Tamiya website says the kits come with TEU-105BK but the Banzai website shows that it doesn't. EVERYTHING else is exactly the same including model number. I've tried contacted them but haven't received a reply so thought I'd ask here.

ErikJan 01-07-2014 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Hasi (Post 12782440)
Since yesterday I can call a TT-02 my own, too :)

Bought it with the Porsche 911 Carrera RSR body - I love it! :

Haven't finisehd yet, but I'm excited to :)

Great body! Here you can find some pictures of my creation:
http://www.modelbouw-aktueel.nl/page...-tamiya156.php

Camocrouch 01-07-2014 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by visuvius (Post 12883141)
Does anyone have any idea if the Tamiya kits that Banzai Hobby sells come with an ESC? The Tamiya website says the kits come with TEU-105BK but the Banzai website shows that it doesn't. EVERYTHING else is exactly the same including model number. I've tried contacted them but haven't received a reply so thought I'd ask here.

The Tamiya kit builds from Banzai Hobby do not usually come with an ESC but the RTR ones that come complete and assembled with radio gear normally do have an ESC.
It seems to be something with only the export kid builds cominging with an ESC...

Cheers,
Crouch

Camocrouch 01-07-2014 02:11 PM

Just thought I’d add my 2c here comparing the TT-02 platform and drivetrain back to its predecessor, the TT-01.

My previous RC was a TT-01 drifter and so far I’ve built three vehicles of the new TT-02 platform – one drifter and two buggies.

Many people have commented that the TT-02 has not improved on the TT-01 because it does not come standard with features like bearings, oil shocks, etc., and I certainly agree in the case of bearings in particular.

But one thing that I think hasn’t been highlighted enough is the improvements to the actual design itself, vs the TT-01.

Some examples include:
* It’s much easier to work on with the diffs dropping in from the top, rather than the sides – you don’t have to tip it on its end or remove the lower suspension (I switched out a diff the other day on my driveway in 5 minutes just by disconnecting the suspension and steering and unscrewing the top of the diff housing)
* It’s much easier to attach and remove the suspension, uprights and knuckles because they’re not held in place by the diff covers
* Drifters no longer need to cut away parts of the chassis to achieve maximum steering angle
* There are fewer gaps and holes underneath, making it much better suited for offroad use
* The suspension arms are set for maximum movement droop, without needing to cut anything away
* The main driveshaft is a sturdier design and is much easier to install as it drops straight in – Your not poking it through the sides of the diff housing
* The ends that connect into the diffs from the main driveshaft are identical at either end reducing confusion
* The tub can now fit hard case LiPo’s
* Everything seems much more rugged and sturdier

And I’m sure there’s more.

So while it may not have additional features included, the core design itself is much more user-friendly to use and maintain vs the TT-01.

Just my 2c.

Cheers,
Crouch

Airflow 01-07-2014 05:31 PM

They should also address suspension tunability like camber, toe, etc.

Qatmix 01-08-2014 02:21 AM

The TT02 is better in every single way to the TT01. TT01's also came with bushings and friction shocks, its only the Drift versions that had oil shocks and bearings, Tamiya has a drift TT02-D which will be released soon that will have these included.

visuvius 01-08-2014 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Camocrouch (Post 12883861)
The Tamiya kit builds from Banzai Hobby do not usually come with an ESC but the RTR ones that come complete and assembled with radio gear normally do have an ESC.
It seems to be something with only the export kid builds cominging with an ESC...

Cheers,
Crouch

Thanks friend this helped. I'll just get the upgrades from them. Speaking of which.

I was going to get these hop up parts from Banzai:

54476 TT02 Ball Bearing Set
54558 TT02 Aluminum Motor Mount
54501 TT02 Alum Propeller Shaft
54502 TT02 Alum Propeller Joint
54539 TT02B Full Turnbuckle Set
51527 TT02 A Parts - Upright
51528 TT02 B Parts - Sus Arm
51529 TT02 C Parts - Cup Joint
51530 TT02 D Parts - Motor Mount

Can someone please tell me if something here is unnecessary or of there is something else I should get? I'm getting the spares just cause they are kind of cheap but if you guys don't think I need them I won't buy them.

I was trying to decide between the TT02 and a used TB03 but I think the TB03 is a bit too much care for me at the moment and I think I'd like to try racing in the novice Tamiya class.

Also, can someone tell me how fast the stock motor is in the TT02 kit? The description just says 540 brushed motor but i'm not sure how many turns or anything like that.

Camocrouch 01-08-2014 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by visuvius (Post 12886444)
Thanks friend this helped. I'll just get the upgrades from them. Speaking of which.

I was going to get these hop up parts from Banzai:

54476 TT02 Ball Bearing Set
54558 TT02 Aluminum Motor Mount
54501 TT02 Alum Propeller Shaft
54502 TT02 Alum Propeller Joint
54539 TT02B Full Turnbuckle Set
51527 TT02 A Parts - Upright
51528 TT02 B Parts - Sus Arm
51529 TT02 C Parts - Cup Joint
51530 TT02 D Parts - Motor Mount

Can someone please tell me if something here is unnecessary or of there is something else I should get? I'm getting the spares just cause they are kind of cheap but if you guys don't think I need them I won't buy them.

I was trying to decide between the TT02 and a used TB03 but I think the TB03 is a bit too much care for me at the moment and I think I'd like to try racing in the novice Tamiya class.

Also, can someone tell me how fast the stock motor is in the TT02 kit? The description just says 540 brushed motor but i'm not sure how many turns or anything like that.

No worries mate, happy to help.

In regards to those hop ups / spares I pretty much agree with everything there as a good starting point however the turnbuckle set listed I believe is for the TT-02'B' (Buggy) model and hence will not fit the sedan models.
Also I have the Tamiya alloy prop shaft but have been happier with the one from Eagle Racing as its shaped to fit the prop joints (Google 'Broadtech' and have a look through their stuff, slow website but great products and service). Have a look at the pics in one of my albums as i've fitted this to one of my TT02B's.

While your on broadtech maybe have a look at some oil shocks as well? Perhaps alloy steering blocks / uprights and a front one-way?

Not sure whether you'll really need the D parts, can't see much there that would break.

I don't have any experience with the TB03 but it looks to be a more advanced chassis.
The TT-02 is good but at the end of the day it is an entry level model.
Just be wary that by the time you've hopped up the TT-02 you may end up spending the sort of money that would have bought you a better chassis to begin with.
I don't mind doing that because for me that's half the fun!

The stock 540 'silver can' brushed motor is good, you'll have fun with it, but it is on the slower side of everything that's available now days. Don't quote me but I think it's around 27 turns.
For a nice little boost and only few dollars off Banzai you could get a Tamiya Sport Tuned 'black can' motor that I think is around 23 turns and will still work with the stock Tamiya TEU-105BK ESC.

I've written a review of the TT-02B buggies that may be of interest / relevant if you want to head over to the electric off road section.

Another option you might want to consider is to wait for the drift spec TT-02D (Google 'Tamiaya TT02D') which should be coming out soon (Feb?). It will give you your oil shocks, bearings, sport tuned motor, motor heat sink and some other bling probably cheaper than buying them separately. You'd need to switch the tyres over to on-road tyres though.

Good luck!
Crouch

Camocrouch 01-08-2014 02:37 PM

Hey all,

As I mentioned above, there is information on the net about the TT-02D drift spec potentially being available in Feb.

Upgrades vs the stock TT-02 include:
* Ball bearings (guessing not the steering though)
* Oil shocks
* Sport tuned motor
* Blue motor heat sink
* Silver brake discs
* Blue alloy battery strap
* Super drift tech tyres

No adjustable camber though which I think is dissapointing, kind of a core thing for a drifter.

What I was most interested in though is the pictures showing what looks to be a different material used (dark grey as opposed to black) for parts like the suspension towers.
Do you think this is just a prototype model (seems unlikely given the parts look identical to the stock TT-02) or perhaps are these the reinforced parts mentioned earlier in this thread?

Cheers,
Crouch

Qatmix 01-08-2014 03:20 PM

The grey parts are the re-enforced plastic parts. These will be available separately :)

visuvius 01-08-2014 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Camocrouch (Post 12887208)
No worries mate, happy to help.

In regards to those hop ups / spares I pretty much agree with everything there as a good starting point however the turnbuckle set listed I believe is for the TT-02'B' (Buggy) model and hence will not fit the sedan models.
Also I have the Tamiya alloy prop shaft but have been happier with the one from Eagle Racing as its shaped to fit the prop joints (Google 'Broadtech' and have a look through their stuff, slow website but great products and service). Have a look at the pics in one of my albums as i've fitted this to one of my TT02B's.

While your on broadtech maybe have a look at some oil shocks as well? Perhaps alloy steering blocks / uprights and a front one-way?

Not sure whether you'll really need the D parts, can't see much there that would break.

I don't have any experience with the TB03 but it looks to be a more advanced chassis.
The TT-02 is good but at the end of the day it is an entry level model.
Just be wary that by the time you've hopped up the TT-02 you may end up spending the sort of money that would have bought you a better chassis to begin with.
I don't mind doing that because for me that's half the fun!

The stock 540 'silver can' brushed motor is good, you'll have fun with it, but it is on the slower side of everything that's available now days. Don't quote me but I think it's around 27 turns.
For a nice little boost and only few dollars off Banzai you could get a Tamiya Sport Tuned 'black can' motor that I think is around 23 turns and will still work with the stock Tamiya TEU-105BK ESC.

I've written a review of the TT-02B buggies that may be of interest / relevant if you want to head over to the electric off road section.

Another option you might want to consider is to wait for the drift spec TT-02D (Google 'Tamiaya TT02D') which should be coming out soon (Feb?). It will give you your oil shocks, bearings, sport tuned motor, motor heat sink and some other bling probably cheaper than buying them separately. You'd need to switch the tyres over to on-road tyres though.

Good luck!
Crouch

I did remove the turnbuckle set and added the basic Tamiya oil shocks from Banzai. I do realize that all these add ons drives up the price to TB03 levels but ultimately anything but the TT01 or TT02 wasn't an option for me since I want to try Spec/Novice class.

Camocrouch 01-08-2014 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by visuvius (Post 12887558)
I did remove the turnbuckle set and added the basic Tamiya oil shocks from Banzai. I do realize that all these add ons drives up the price to TB03 levels but ultimately anything but the TT01 or TT02 wasn't an option for me since I want to try Spec/Novice class.

Cool.

I also recommend a tamiya high torque servo saver as well, to protect your servo from damage.

Cheers,
Crouch


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