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passionrc 06-06-2016 03:36 AM

This car is really cheap and fun, iīm using mine on rallycross and is awesome!!

Manlito 06-06-2016 04:52 AM

Thanks for your answers and hopups advice.
Yesterday I was bashing in the parking lot and I ran my car into the tyre of a car :cry: the motor was damaged by the impact and now it doesn't run. It seems like something inside the can is stuck. Is there a way to open it and check the damage?

steve_pss 06-06-2016 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Manlito (Post 14557109)
Thanks for your answers and hopups advice.
Yesterday I was bashing in the parking lot and I ran my car into the tyre of a car :cry: the motor was damaged by the impact and now it doesn't run. It seems like something inside the can is stuck. Is there a way to open it and check the damage?

When you say "doesn't run" does it sound likes it's spinning but no power to spur? That might be a loose pinion gear. If you get nothing when you grab the throttle, but the steering works, it could point to the impact damaging the ESC, which is pretty unlikely, but could be diagnosed with a cheap multi-meter to see if voltage is getting to the motor.

Can't say I've eve heard of an impact killing a silver can motor. You can certainly burn out a motor a number of different ways.

When you hit the tyre, did it get stuck, and you then perhaps tried to reverse it? The kit provided ESC does have voltage/current protection built in, but it's more likely you burned out the ESC than broke the motor.

Hopefully the motor trying to spin, and the pinion simply needs to be retightened.

Manlito 06-06-2016 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by steve_pss (Post 14557145)
When you say "doesn't run" does it sound likes it's spinning but no power to spur? That might be a loose pinion gear. If you get nothing when you grab the throttle, but the steering works, it could point to the impact damaging the ESC, which is pretty unlikely, but could be diagnosed with a cheap multi-meter to see if voltage is getting to the motor.

Can't say I've eve heard of an impact killing a silver can motor. You can certainly burn out a motor a number of different ways.

When you hit the tyre, did it get stuck, and you then perhaps tried to reverse it? The kit provided ESC does have voltage/current protection built in, but it's more likely you burned out the ESC than broke the motor.

Hopefully the motor trying to spin, and the pinion simply needs to be retightened.

Sorry for my bad English (I'm Italian :sweat:). I searched for TT-02 infos and this was the most useful thread I found, so I decided to register.
I mean the motor itself doesn't spin. When I grab the throttle, voltage to the motor is 7,9V. I dissassembled the car to check diffs and gears and everything is ok. I'm spinning the motor shaft by hand, but it doesn't spin.

wtcc 06-06-2016 09:30 AM

Cables are still connected to the motor? Maybe a solder joint broke?

eR1c 06-06-2016 09:49 AM


Sorry for my bad English (I'm Italian ). I searched for TT-02 infos and this was the most useful thread I found, so I decided to register.
I mean the motor itself doesn't spin. When I grab the throttle, voltage to the motor is 7,9V. I disassembled the car to check diffs and gears and everything is ok. I'm spinning the motor shaft by hand, but it doesn't spin.
If you don't have a spare ESC or motor to swap (to help you identify what is broken), you
can test your motor by disconnecting it from the ESC and attach the leads of your motor to a "D" sized battery. A good working motor should turn from the power of the battery (just make sure your battery is a good one that has a charge).

I don't think i've ever seen a silver can die ...ever. But its not to say it can't happen. Usually the ESC's go first.

If it is your motor, you can get a brushed silvercan for super cheap..If you are sure its your motor I could mail you one for shipping only (assuming your in the USA). -I have like 5 or 6 silvercans all used but all working, i'd love for someone to get use out of them ...or just go on eBay and get one ...I think they should be like $15 or less (not even sure what they sell for ...haven't bought one outside of a kit in like a decade).
(just PM me).

rcmadkiwi 06-06-2016 05:10 PM

Could be an electrical problem, but if it was a hard enough impact. I'd more inclined to check all the drivetrain gears, diffs, shafts etc. All it takes is one gear to move slightly & it will lock everything up tight. Try to force it to move before checking it over & that's when you risk making more damage. By all means check anything else but don't check the moving parts at your peril.

By the way if you want to change text or a whole website to a different language - try Babelfish, it really works. :nod:

Manlito 06-07-2016 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by eR1c (Post 14557431)
If you don't have a spare ESC or motor to swap (to help you identify what is broken), you
can test your motor by disconnecting it from the ESC and attach the leads of your motor to a "D" sized battery. A good working motor should turn from the power of the battery (just make sure your battery is a good one that has a charge).

I don't think i've ever seen a silver can die ...ever. But its not to say it can't happen. Usually the ESC's go first.

If it is your motor, you can get a brushed silvercan for super cheap..If you are sure its your motor I could mail you one for shipping only (assuming your in the USA). -I have like 5 or 6 silvercans all used but all working, i'd love for someone to get use out of them ...or just go on eBay and get one ...I think they should be like $15 or less (not even sure what they sell for ...haven't bought one outside of a kit in like a decade).
(just PM me).

I just bought a D sized battery and tried to make the motor spin with it. I can see sparkle coming from the lead when it touched the pole but nothing else happened. (Green negative cable was attached to the negative pole and yellow positive cable touched positive pole for less than a second)
I'd like to disassemble the motor to check rotor and stators. Is it possibile?


Originally Posted by rcmadkiwi (Post 14557923)
Could be an electrical problem, but if it was a hard enough impact. I'd more inclined to check all the drivetrain gears, diffs, shafts etc. All it takes is one gear to move slightly & it will lock everything up tight. Try to force it to move before checking it over & that's when you risk making more damage. By all means check anything else but don't check the moving parts at your peril.

By the way if you want to change text or a whole website to a different language - try Babelfish, it really works.

After the impact, prop shaft was stuck and didn't spin (when I was waiting for the battery to be shipped, I spun it by hand to see how transmission worked) but diffs worked fine (if i was turning one wheel, the other one was turning on the opposite side). I dissassembled all the car to check diffs, gears, etc. but it was just when I detached the motor that prop shaft spun freely even by hand. I can't see any damage to the teeth of pinion, spur and diffs gears

passionrc 06-07-2016 02:21 AM

Hi from Spain Manlito! I hope you solve the problems with the car, did you check your bearings?? It could be broken and donīt place the shaft on the correct place, so that it doesnīt attach correctly.

Iīm glad to show yoy my TT02 Skoda Fabia vs Subaru Imprezza XV01 and Lancia Stratos Rally Legend ^^

+ YouTube Video
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steve_pss 06-07-2016 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by passionrc (Post 14558366)
Hi from Spain Manlito! I hope you solve the problems with the car, did you check your bearings?? It could be broken and donīt place the shaft on the correct place, so that it doesnīt attach correctly.

Iīm glad to show yoy my TT02 Skoda Fabia vs Subaru Imprezza XV01 and Lancia Stratos Rally Legend ^^

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


That looks awesome!

steve_pss 06-07-2016 10:16 AM

Torque Steer -
Does anyone have issues with what appears to be torque steer? It's the one thing I can't seem to sort out. If I grab the throttle hard it pulls to one side. I've checked my shocks for consistency and equal length, nothing suspension wise is binding, nothing on the drivetrain appears to be binding. All wheels stop at the same time on the bench when I test it....

I'm coming up empty for things to check. It's adding frustration an otherwise really fun kit.

I should add that at moderate throttle it tracks fine. Only when I punch it does it pull.

Jae Racer 06-07-2016 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by steve_pss (Post 14558746)
Torque Steer -
Does anyone have issues with what appears to be torque steer? It's the one thing I can't seem to sort out. If I grab the throttle hard it pulls to one side. I've checked my shocks for consistency and equal length, nothing suspension wise is binding, nothing on the drivetrain appears to be binding. All wheels stop at the same time on the bench when I test it....

I'm coming up empty for things to check. It's adding frustration an otherwise really fun kit.

I should add that at moderate throttle it tracks fine. Only when I punch it does it pull.

Easy Fix: Reduce your punch level on ESC

Hard Fix: You need to rebuild the both Diffs. What did you put for the front and the rear diff?

eR1c 06-07-2016 01:30 PM


Hard Fix: You need to rebuild the both Diffs. What did you put for the front and rear rear diff?
I was thinking the same thing ...Also double check that your drive shaft engages on opposite sides of the front and rear diff ...not on the same side. ...so basically each diff should have the large exposed gear on opposite sides (does this make sense)???

eR1c 06-07-2016 01:43 PM


I'd like to disassemble the motor to check rotor and stators. Is it possibile?
...you can, ...its been years since I opened one. You'll have to bend the metal tabs on the one end of the motor to open it up.

CAn you see anything when you look in the vents on the motor? I remember running an off-road truck w/ a brushed and getting a stick stuck in one of the vents. It was a tiny piece of bark actually and it jammed up my motor ...I was able to get it out w/ tweezers ...but took awhile as it was lodged in pretty good.

Manlito 06-07-2016 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by eR1c (Post 14558925)
...you can, ...its been years since I opened one. You'll have to bend the metal tabs on the one end of the motor to open it up.

CAn you see anything when you look in the vents on the motor? I remember running an off-road truck w/ a brushed and getting a stick stuck in one of the vents. It was a tiny piece of bark actually and it jammed up my motor ...I was able to get it out w/ tweezers ...but took awhile as it was lodged in pretty good.

Thank you very much! :D I didn't see anything through the vents of the can, that's why I wanted to disassemble it. I found a small piece of iron wire (or something like that) between the rotor and one of the magnets. Probably it went into the motor through the vent, because rotor coils aren't damaged. Tomorrow (here it's midnight at the moment) i'll bash the car and see if problem is solved.


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