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Teamrule 01-17-2019 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Raman (Post 15324722)
Ive been curious as to what Tamiya did to make an oil filled TT-02 diff.. seems not much!!! It uses

1. Gasket from TG10 Mk.2
https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/tamiy...-diff-case-pk/
2. Black 5 mm o-rings which can be found everywhere
3. Metal gears from TG10 Mk.2 as well
4. Metal cross shaft..

Pretty easy stuff.. wish we had this info long ago.. I bet it will leak easily but better than nothing


I've had good luck combining a gasket like that with Kyosho Differential sealing grease all over it for leak free diffs of all sorts. Haven't built my TT02 RR quite yet but we will see. Though I am likely to be running 1 million fluid in front so leaks are less likely.


Teamrule 01-18-2019 04:22 PM

Anybody have a part # for the new TT02 RR upper front arms. They are the K parts and the manual itself does not even inclue the part #. It shows the tree with no #. Hmmmm???

Raman 01-19-2019 07:51 PM

Thats a Tamiyaism. Its still a little early for the car as it is just now showing up on shelves. Replacement parts are soon to follow

Teamrule 01-20-2019 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Raman (Post 15378833)
Tamiyaism

Great new word I will use to explain all those things that I go "now why did Tamiya do it that way". I no longer have to worry as I have the answer ;-) I can now explain all sorts of quirks on my stupidly absurd vintage collection.



wtcc 01-20-2019 08:43 AM

After my last Tamiya Euro Cup race in the Stock class, I was thinking of joining the TEC-circus and participate in more races. The Stock class itself is the wrong class as it is a beginner class. My friends and I just raced it once a year, because we had the cars (we used mostly for summer parking lot bashing) and could race without investing in option parts. But it was always a little unfair as we all are far away from being beginners and I felt bad.

Well now I turned forty and therefore are allowed to be part of the Gentleman class. Motor, esc, battery, tires and chassis type (TT02 in all its no drift and offroad versions) are part of the rules. Tamiya Option parts are allowed generously. So I gave it a thought before christmas and was stopped by the costs. Spending more than 500€ for a plastic chassis is just to much and renouncing Option parts is just not possible for me :sweat:

At that time I didn't combine two realitys: The one that I want to drive the Gentleman class and two that I had a nice trip through Asia coming up. First stop was Hong Kong :D Since I realized my luck, I started searching for shops and found one. My wife wasn't happy to run around some boring areas of the city. I of course had a big smile on my face:

https://abload.de/img/92239a05-160e-47ec-aewkeo.jpeg

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The prices were pretty good. I went for the TT02s and got it for 80€ (instead of 130€ in Germany) and added all Option parts this shop in stock for my purpose. Which weren't not as much as I would have liked. But that didn't bother me very much as at the end of the Asia trip I would visit Singapore...

...and there I found the Tamiya shop of our dreams. I mean literally Tamiya heaven. I am pretty sure it had every Tamiya product that is still in production. I had to take pictures:

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Every RC part was sorted by chassis type and had its own shelf just for the Option parts. I was ready to fill up the shopping cart, but got stopped by the prices. Parts were at least 20% more expensive than in Germany. I underestimated the high living standard of Singapore. There was nothing left for me, but to enjoy my time in this "temple" a little bit longer...


Back in Germany I started the build of the TT02s and ordered the missing parts. Tamiya really knows their business. All Option parts look very good on this car and are a real plus. The car looks just nice:

https://abload.de/img/a1eb138b-98e4-4e6c-8taj0l.jpeg

For the Gentleman class I chose the AMG GTR body in its lightweight version. I was tempted to color it neon yellow as it is my normal racing colour, but then rejected this idea. My thought was: "Where is a gentleman with his sportscar to find? Mostly on a trackday. And these fortunate guys do not come with race livrées or neon colours, but with nice metallic paint jobs." In the end I chose Tamiya PS-49 aluminium effect sky blue and let off a lot of stickers.

Yesterday, I finally got to race my "blue treasure" for a training with another friend with his unoptioned TT02s. The required unsensored motor-esc-combo needed familiarization, but after some batteries the car was very nice. I made some minor droop adjustments and need harder springs in the rear, except for that the car (even with normal rear diff) was very good to drive. Tamiya knows their business :nod: My fastest laptime was 11.356s with regular 11.5-11.6s laps throughout a run. Meaning I was already faster than the last Gentleman class race winner at this track. I am very happy :blush:

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Teamrule 01-20-2019 02:54 PM

More I read here I am regretting the RR for upcoming Novice class in TCS race. Seems S is a better race car but I guess in the spirit of Novice class it will work for me.

Is #53792 the right part for universals, the RR uses #50823 diff outdrives? Also what spring set part # is the correct one for the kit CVA's to have some options? I have some 42291 TRF shocks that were for an M07 build, can those work, they seem short?

wtcc 01-21-2019 03:04 AM

Is #53792 the right part for universals, the RR uses #50823 diff outdrives?
Yes, it should fit the car.

I have some 42291 TRF shocks that were for an M07 build, can those work, they seem short?
These are to short and will not fit. Tamiya 42102 is the recommended shock set.

crazykoolrn 01-21-2019 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Teamrule (Post 15375998)
Which version to get for TCS novice class on black carpet this year. My local is actually hosting one round of the TCS and I will run novice. I was thinking of base kit and adding parts but the new RR is tempting, but when you add the body, parts you'd probably want to change anyways, not sure. I was thinking the S as well but it's unique suspension has me worried. I am leaning towards the R, I get to the track rarely and more adjustment and set up options the S provides are not always better for a guy like me.

I have raced Euro Truck and usually bring up the rear on black carpet and I also have some experience with TT02 in a parking lot series on Asphalt which I was a mid packer at least.

I have no idea just how "novice" this class will be though come March, original question though, which one? I thought about dusting off the TT02 car I used on the asphalt but it's pretty beat up and a mix up of parts at this point and not sure it would meet strict TCS rules.

Parts wise I have TRF dampers already and a high speed gear set in my tool box.

I ran the novice class last year at my regional TCS race and bought a type S version. I still run the type S in our tub class at our local track, however, for someone who does not get out there a lot and does not want to worry about tuning. I would get the R version so that you can run Novice class this year then turn around and run Pro Spec class next year with same chassis. The best option would be the RR version but you need to learn camber and toe adjustment. Best of luck.

Nicadrauspro4 01-21-2019 06:08 AM

Very nice shop. How I wish our local Tamiya shops here were like that. I like the assembled chassis. At least you can see and check them up close before making a purchase.

But your TT02 KR looks so much better in my opinion. I also curious on how the TT02 s and KR compare in performance.

How about building another KR mixed with all the option parts included. I'm really digging the all blue parts though. :)

Teamrule 01-21-2019 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Mini35 (Post 14896446)
You can use the metal ring gear and propshaft bevel gear from a DF02. The bevel is #5455040, the ring gear is 3454029 and the diff case is 0555104 (the DF02 Gravel Hound manual is downloadable off Tamiya.com).


Originally Posted by wtcc (Post 15379615)
Is #53792 the right part for universals, the RR uses #50823 diff outdrives?
Yes, it should fit the car.

I have some 42291 TRF shocks that were for an M07 build, can those work, they seem short?
These are to short and will not fit. Tamiya 42102 is the recommended shock set.

Thanks, the build has begun. I am starting with 1 million fluid in front RR diff and 5,000 wt. in rear. It worked well on Euro truck as a starting point. Other than that it will be the 64T spur and a stock TT02 RR to get rolling. I have some C tires as well for the black carpet.



Raman 01-21-2019 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Teamrule (Post 15379746)
Thanks, the build has begun. I am starting with 1 million fluid in front RR diff and 5,000 wt. in rear. It worked well on Euro truck as a starting point. Other than that it will be the 64T spur and a stock TT02 RR to get rolling. I have some C tires as well for the black carpet.

for Carpet, get the diff locker for the front. I epoxied mine long ago before that part existed.

Raman 01-21-2019 09:18 AM

Wow I haven’t seen a hobby shop like that since the 1980s. With that amount of inventory it’s no surprise prices are high. They need it.

Nice to see it exists!

wtcc 01-21-2019 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Nicadrauspro4 (Post 15379666)
But your TT02 KR looks so much batter in my opinion. I also curious on how the TT02 s and KR compare in performance.
How about building another KR mixed with all the option parts included. I'm really digging the all blue parts though. :)

I thought about turning my KR from orange to blue after I added the steering arm option parts. It won‘t be that big of a project. It is mostly screws and turnbuckles. Really expensive are the Tamiya short shocks with 90€. In the end there is no performance gain and that prevents me from investing. Another story would be if Xray would sell their ULP shocks in black...

A direct comparison would be interesting. And maybe hurting. My fastest ever lap with the KR at my hometrack was a 10.8s. So right now I am around 0.5s slower with the TT02S. The KR was driven with Sorex 28 and a low Exotek body, the S got a stronger motor... Maybe some time I will do a comparison...

Teamrule 01-21-2019 12:46 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...be0c7ad002.jpg

Originally Posted by Raman (Post 15379794)


for Carpet, get the diff locker for the front. I epoxied mine long ago before that part existed.

Will 54649 diff lock work with these new RR differentials? I built it for now with the 1 million fluid and will try it out at least, I have 6MM clamp on hex for axle, the weird rotor combination ones that come with kit appear like they may be 7-8 MM in width, hard to measure exactly.

Raman 01-21-2019 03:29 PM

I’m not sure as I haven’t seen new diff. The old diff can be had very cheaply.. $4.99 for both sets

https://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/prod....asp?p_id=7381


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