68LikesTamiya TA05 Touring Sedan
11-07-2005, 06:35 AM
#1878
need help or advice>>>>>
I'm having some issues coming out of a turn , its pushing hard, will a stabilizer set work if so what color?
I'm having some issues coming out of a turn , its pushing hard, will a stabilizer set work if so what color?
11-07-2005, 07:30 AM
#1880
Just finished racing my 05 at the first leg of our West Canadian Indoor Champ Series. Ultra impressed with the car. I did find a few problems. The car handled superb, and was actually puting down times exactly the same as a fk05. Now, if we had any kind of tech at the race, i think the 05 would have pulled ahead, as my 05 was carrying ALOT more weight that the FK. It was setup for stock, 28mm jacos on ozite carpet, PF G6 body. I also included 2 fans for the motor, and the motor ran strong from the start to finish. Heres the setup -
Front
Jaco Double Pink/Orange
Ball Diff, Loose but no slip
Spring - Old black springs from a onroad nitro car (just run something HARD!)
Blue sway bar
Ride height - 4.5mm
Droop - 1mm
Camber - 1.5
Camber Link - 5mm spacer
Toe - 0
Centre - Oneway
Belt - Loose but no slip (cant remember hole!)
Rear
Jaco Double Pink
Ball Diff, Loose but no slip
Spring - Tamiya Red (Softer handled better)
No sway bar
Ride Height - 4.5mm
Droop - 1.5 - 2mm
Camber - 1.5
Toe - set to 2
Camber Link - Inside no spacers - Outside 1mm spacer
Rear uprights - Alloy - Middle Hole
Missed TQ by .02 of a second, and that wasnt a clean run. The car was perfect. Carried tremendous corner speed, was VERY stable under brakes, and through the sweepers. Also very good on change of direction. I got hacked on the first corner and realised straight away something was wrong. front toe was way out, and it only got worse. The left hand servo mount had broken. I was running a metal gear servo, metal servo horn, and no saver. Ill be on the look out for a alloy servo mount for the 05. Apart from this tiny peice, the car was FAST. Not bad for a plastic 05 against a top of the line FK05!
I didnt change anything from this setup except the front camber link height. I started at around 6mm, and dropped to 5mm for a little more steering. Also just re-adjusted ride height and droop after every second run, to allow for changes in tyre diametre.
Front
Jaco Double Pink/Orange
Ball Diff, Loose but no slip
Spring - Old black springs from a onroad nitro car (just run something HARD!)
Blue sway bar
Ride height - 4.5mm
Droop - 1mm
Camber - 1.5
Camber Link - 5mm spacer
Toe - 0
Centre - Oneway
Belt - Loose but no slip (cant remember hole!)
Rear
Jaco Double Pink
Ball Diff, Loose but no slip
Spring - Tamiya Red (Softer handled better)
No sway bar
Ride Height - 4.5mm
Droop - 1.5 - 2mm
Camber - 1.5
Toe - set to 2
Camber Link - Inside no spacers - Outside 1mm spacer
Rear uprights - Alloy - Middle Hole
Missed TQ by .02 of a second, and that wasnt a clean run. The car was perfect. Carried tremendous corner speed, was VERY stable under brakes, and through the sweepers. Also very good on change of direction. I got hacked on the first corner and realised straight away something was wrong. front toe was way out, and it only got worse. The left hand servo mount had broken. I was running a metal gear servo, metal servo horn, and no saver. Ill be on the look out for a alloy servo mount for the 05. Apart from this tiny peice, the car was FAST. Not bad for a plastic 05 against a top of the line FK05!
I didnt change anything from this setup except the front camber link height. I started at around 6mm, and dropped to 5mm for a little more steering. Also just re-adjusted ride height and droop after every second run, to allow for changes in tyre diametre.
11-07-2005, 08:58 AM
#1881
Quick question...
If I'm replacing the standard hex hubs on the car with allum. clamping versions. What thickness should I look for to get the same size as the kit plastic versions.
When I measure the kit versions on the calipers, they're about 5mm. But the Tamiya allum. hubs I've seen go straight from 4mm to 6mm. So whats up with that?
I don't want the car to be too wide, but I also don't want too much of the axle sticking out. So which should I go with?
If I'm replacing the standard hex hubs on the car with allum. clamping versions. What thickness should I look for to get the same size as the kit plastic versions.
When I measure the kit versions on the calipers, they're about 5mm. But the Tamiya allum. hubs I've seen go straight from 4mm to 6mm. So whats up with that?
I don't want the car to be too wide, but I also don't want too much of the axle sticking out. So which should I go with?
11-07-2005, 09:03 AM
#1882
Originally Posted by Darkseid
Quick question...
If I'm replacing the standard hex hubs on the car with allum. clamping versions. What thickness should I look for to get the same size as the kit plastic versions.
When I measure the kit versions on the calipers, they're about 5mm. But the Tamiya allum. hubs I've seen go straight from 4mm to 6mm. So whats up with that?
I don't want the car to be too wide, but I also don't want too much of the axle sticking out. So which should I go with?
If I'm replacing the standard hex hubs on the car with allum. clamping versions. What thickness should I look for to get the same size as the kit plastic versions.
When I measure the kit versions on the calipers, they're about 5mm. But the Tamiya allum. hubs I've seen go straight from 4mm to 6mm. So whats up with that?
I don't want the car to be too wide, but I also don't want too much of the axle sticking out. So which should I go with?
11-07-2005, 11:13 AM
#1883
Item 53823 - 5mm Clamp Type Aluminum Wheel Hub
These will fit your needs.. I bought the 4mm myself, but needed the 6mm (just got those cheap cast-aluminum ones) to get 28mm foams to fit the standard suspension.. 1.5mm of spacers on each tire seemed to bring it to the end of each axle, and I shaved a little off the inside of the wheel to make some more clearance.
But now, I'm trying the Evo IV kingpins as per a suggestion..
These will fit your needs.. I bought the 4mm myself, but needed the 6mm (just got those cheap cast-aluminum ones) to get 28mm foams to fit the standard suspension.. 1.5mm of spacers on each tire seemed to bring it to the end of each axle, and I shaved a little off the inside of the wheel to make some more clearance.
But now, I'm trying the Evo IV kingpins as per a suggestion..
Originally Posted by Darkseid
Quick question...
If I'm replacing the standard hex hubs on the car with allum. clamping versions. What thickness should I look for to get the same size as the kit plastic versions.
When I measure the kit versions on the calipers, they're about 5mm. But the Tamiya allum. hubs I've seen go straight from 4mm to 6mm. So whats up with that?
I don't want the car to be too wide, but I also don't want too much of the axle sticking out. So which should I go with?
If I'm replacing the standard hex hubs on the car with allum. clamping versions. What thickness should I look for to get the same size as the kit plastic versions.
When I measure the kit versions on the calipers, they're about 5mm. But the Tamiya allum. hubs I've seen go straight from 4mm to 6mm. So whats up with that?
I don't want the car to be too wide, but I also don't want too much of the axle sticking out. So which should I go with?
11-07-2005, 12:36 PM
#1884
Originally Posted by Darkseid
Quick question...
If I'm replacing the standard hex hubs on the car with allum. clamping versions. What thickness should I look for to get the same size as the kit plastic versions.
When I measure the kit versions on the calipers, they're about 5mm. But the Tamiya allum. hubs I've seen go straight from 4mm to 6mm. So whats up with that?
I don't want the car to be too wide, but I also don't want too much of the axle sticking out. So which should I go with?
If I'm replacing the standard hex hubs on the car with allum. clamping versions. What thickness should I look for to get the same size as the kit plastic versions.
When I measure the kit versions on the calipers, they're about 5mm. But the Tamiya allum. hubs I've seen go straight from 4mm to 6mm. So whats up with that?
I don't want the car to be too wide, but I also don't want too much of the axle sticking out. So which should I go with?
If you want the alu clamp, you can also go with the 4mm and get some of those 0.5 and 1 mm spacers.
I have mine with the std arms using the 4mm clamp and .5mm spacer. Works perfectly.
11-07-2005, 01:02 PM
#1886
ANOTHER WIN!!
Hey,
We had our very first indoor race on ozite. The carpet had tons of traction. My friend and I were running our 05 in stock. He was able to get TQ postion while I took the second spot with only 1 second seperating us. We were 1 lap ahead of the rest of the pack, and were threatening to put 1 more lap down on the rest of the field. The 05 perfromed well again vs the hi-end cars. I ended up winning the race and my friend took 3rd spot. I was 2 laps ahead of the TQ and 1 lap ahead of 2nd place during the mains. We would've taken a 1-2 finish if it was'nt for him traction rolling.
We did 2 minor changes to the setup we previously had, changes to the roll center and swaybar but we kept the shock springs at yellow. The only difference we had was that he was running a slightly higher roll center than what I had, just for us to test out the difference. The rest of it was stock.
Next we would need to try out 19t on rubber.
We had our very first indoor race on ozite. The carpet had tons of traction. My friend and I were running our 05 in stock. He was able to get TQ postion while I took the second spot with only 1 second seperating us. We were 1 lap ahead of the rest of the pack, and were threatening to put 1 more lap down on the rest of the field. The 05 perfromed well again vs the hi-end cars. I ended up winning the race and my friend took 3rd spot. I was 2 laps ahead of the TQ and 1 lap ahead of 2nd place during the mains. We would've taken a 1-2 finish if it was'nt for him traction rolling.
We did 2 minor changes to the setup we previously had, changes to the roll center and swaybar but we kept the shock springs at yellow. The only difference we had was that he was running a slightly higher roll center than what I had, just for us to test out the difference. The rest of it was stock.
Next we would need to try out 19t on rubber.
11-07-2005, 02:57 PM
#1887
Originally Posted by cheehtae
need help or advice>>>>>
I'm having some issues coming out of a turn , its pushing hard, will a stabilizer set work if so what color?
I'm having some issues coming out of a turn , its pushing hard, will a stabilizer set work if so what color?
11-07-2005, 04:28 PM
#1888
Yellow springs? Is this with rubber or foams?
Originally Posted by rcspeedo
Hey,
We had our very first indoor race on ozite. The carpet had tons of traction. My friend and I were running our 05 in stock. He was able to get TQ postion while I took the second spot with only 1 second seperating us. We were 1 lap ahead of the rest of the pack, and were threatening to put 1 more lap down on the rest of the field. The 05 perfromed well again vs the hi-end cars. I ended up winning the race and my friend took 3rd spot. I was 2 laps ahead of the TQ and 1 lap ahead of 2nd place during the mains. We would've taken a 1-2 finish if it was'nt for him traction rolling.
We did 2 minor changes to the setup we previously had, changes to the roll center and swaybar but we kept the shock springs at yellow. The only difference we had was that he was running a slightly higher roll center than what I had, just for us to test out the difference. The rest of it was stock.
Next we would need to try out 19t on rubber.
We had our very first indoor race on ozite. The carpet had tons of traction. My friend and I were running our 05 in stock. He was able to get TQ postion while I took the second spot with only 1 second seperating us. We were 1 lap ahead of the rest of the pack, and were threatening to put 1 more lap down on the rest of the field. The 05 perfromed well again vs the hi-end cars. I ended up winning the race and my friend took 3rd spot. I was 2 laps ahead of the TQ and 1 lap ahead of 2nd place during the mains. We would've taken a 1-2 finish if it was'nt for him traction rolling.
We did 2 minor changes to the setup we previously had, changes to the roll center and swaybar but we kept the shock springs at yellow. The only difference we had was that he was running a slightly higher roll center than what I had, just for us to test out the difference. The rest of it was stock.
Next we would need to try out 19t on rubber.
11-07-2005, 04:43 PM
#1889
Originally Posted by rcspeedo
Hey,
We had our very first indoor race on ozite. The carpet had tons of traction. My friend and I were running our 05 in stock. He was able to get TQ postion while I took the second spot with only 1 second seperating us. We were 1 lap ahead of the rest of the pack, and were threatening to put 1 more lap down on the rest of the field. The 05 perfromed well again vs the hi-end cars. I ended up winning the race and my friend took 3rd spot. I was 2 laps ahead of the TQ and 1 lap ahead of 2nd place during the mains. We would've taken a 1-2 finish if it was'nt for him traction rolling.
We did 2 minor changes to the setup we previously had, changes to the roll center and swaybar but we kept the shock springs at yellow. The only difference we had was that he was running a slightly higher roll center than what I had, just for us to test out the difference. The rest of it was stock.
Next we would need to try out 19t on rubber.
We had our very first indoor race on ozite. The carpet had tons of traction. My friend and I were running our 05 in stock. He was able to get TQ postion while I took the second spot with only 1 second seperating us. We were 1 lap ahead of the rest of the pack, and were threatening to put 1 more lap down on the rest of the field. The 05 perfromed well again vs the hi-end cars. I ended up winning the race and my friend took 3rd spot. I was 2 laps ahead of the TQ and 1 lap ahead of 2nd place during the mains. We would've taken a 1-2 finish if it was'nt for him traction rolling.
We did 2 minor changes to the setup we previously had, changes to the roll center and swaybar but we kept the shock springs at yellow. The only difference we had was that he was running a slightly higher roll center than what I had, just for us to test out the difference. The rest of it was stock.
Next we would need to try out 19t on rubber.
you forgot to add that you two also have the fastest motor out there!
11-07-2005, 06:30 PM
#1890
Originally Posted by CIVIC91
Yellow springs? Is this with rubber or foams?
We were on rubber tire and 2 different types as well as diff compounds I might add.
Our race setup might sound a little odd to some of you but we test and compare our lap times with each other as well as closely look at each other's cars to see how the setup is performing.
The yellow springs all around helps with not relying on the tires only for traction while keeping the car's trancision quick thru the corners. Both fast and slow corners.
The hard blue swaybars and the high roll center keeps the car flat thru the corners allowing the suspension to do it's job.
We also lessened the droop to approx. 1mm front, 1.5mm rear.
This allows the car to corner tighter while maintaining a higher corner speed.
This car has great balance and is all about corners. Try to start rolling the throttle on thru the corners earlier while holding your tight lines. The car can hold it and reward you with faster lap times.
Next week we test with 19T rubber. We'll keep you posted...