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Old 07-12-2006, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew_Carter
Yep,you should be ok witht them,Most Cyclone drivers use the Pro Competion shocks fromt he hara Pro 4 anyway,

Just out of intrest have you tried a few drops of oil on the shock collars to loosen them when adjusting them? That will also help if you havent!

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THanks for the info...now, what about the HPI/HB Cyclone springs. I'm looking at a 2005 Asphalt-rubber tire, med traction, Hara set-up sheet. It says he used HPI blue springs in rear...I have looked in HPI website and towerhobbies, but this rating or name doesn't appear. Towerhobbies has the PRO4 spring set, but they have 2 gold, 2 silver, and the rest are black. What and where are the HPI blue? Is HPI blue just a rating, instead of the actual color of the spring(Xray and Associated have their springs color coated). Asked at local hobby shop and they have boxes of HPI springs for TC, some are green, blue, white, orange, etc...are these the ones? Can someone please explain the HPI/HB color/spring rating system and where to get the HPI "blue" rated springs?
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Originally Posted by yyhayyim
THanks for the info...now, what about the HPI/HB Cyclone springs. I'm looking at a 2005 Asphalt-rubber tire, med traction, Hara set-up sheet. It says he used HPI blue springs in rear...I have looked in HPI website and towerhobbies, but this rating or name doesn't appear. Towerhobbies has the PRO4 spring set, but they have 2 gold, 2 silver, and the rest are black. What and where are the HPI blue? Is HPI blue just a rating, instead of the actual color of the spring(Xray and Associated have their springs color coated). Asked at local hobby shop and they have boxes of HPI springs for TC, some are green, blue, white, orange, etc...are these the ones? Can someone please explain the HPI/HB color/spring rating system and where to get the HPI "blue" rated springs?

Here the HPI Spring rate:

Blue Rated 15.3 in/lb - 6 Coils (14x25x1.4mm)
Silver Rated 16.9 in/lb - 6.5 Coils (14x25x1.5mm)
Pink Rated 18.0 in/lb - 6.25 Coils (14x25x1.5mm)
Gold Rated 19.0 in/lb - 6 Coils (14x25x1.5mm)
White Rated 20.3 in/lb - 5.75 Coils (14x25x1.5mm)
Yellow Rated 21.7 in/lb - 5.5 Coils (14x25x1.5mm)
Red Rated 22.4 in/lb - 5.25 Coils (14x25x1.5mm)



they are all in black (except for gold and silver) , but painted on the top to recognise it.
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Originally Posted by yyhayyim
THanks for the info...now, what about the HPI/HB Cyclone springs. I'm looking at a 2005 Asphalt-rubber tire, med traction, Hara set-up sheet. It says he used HPI blue springs in rear...I have looked in HPI website and towerhobbies, but this rating or name doesn't appear. Towerhobbies has the PRO4 spring set, but they have 2 gold, 2 silver, and the rest are black. What and where are the HPI blue? Is HPI blue just a rating, instead of the actual color of the spring(Xray and Associated have their springs color coated). Asked at local hobby shop and they have boxes of HPI springs for TC, some are green, blue, white, orange, etc...are these the ones? Can someone please explain the HPI/HB color/spring rating system and where to get the HPI "blue" rated springs?
only the gold and silver pro4 springs are coloured, the rest are black with painted colour bands for the rating, take a look at the following link for a picture of the springs

http://www.hpi-europe.com/piw.php?lang=en&partNo=75175

* #6542 - 14x25x1.4mm 6 coils (blue / 2pcs) 273 gf/mm
* #6543 - 14x25x1.5mm 6.5 coils (silver / 2pcs)(Kit Part) 302 gf/mm
* #6544 - 14x25x1.5mm 6 coils (gold / 2pcs)(Kit Part) 340 gf/mm
* #6545 - 14x25x1.4mm 5.75 coils (white / 2pcs) 363 gf/mm
* #6546 - 14x25x1.4mm 5.5 coils (yellow / 2pcs) 388 gf/mm
* #6547 - 14x25x1.5mm 5.25 coils (red / 2pcs) 400 gf/mm
* #6548 - 14x25x1.5mm 6.25 coils (pink / 2pcs) 320 gf/mm
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Does any one no if these caps will work on the cyclone shocks
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAFK4&P=7
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Pretty sure there the ones for the Hara Pro Competition shocks,if they are then they wont fit the kit Cyclone shocks as the thread is to deep for those tops.

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Originally Posted by RaceAce701
Does any one no if these caps will work on the cyclone shocks
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAFK4&P=7

no!
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Old 07-12-2006, 09:35 AM
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The problem with cyclone shocks is that the cap is too deep for the shock body. The cap will screw down until it hits the shoulder of the shock body. Then you end up tightening against that.

So you have two options to modify your shocks, and one option to change them:
1)file/dremel the shock caps so they are shorter. This can easily be done easily, so that with the cap on the body you cannot see the silver filed area.
2)Use some sort of shim near the shock bladder. If you have any of the 40-60 bladders, you will have the shims from those that fit perfectly. Or you can use an o-ring as mentioned, or anything similar.
3)Or you can buy caps from Hara pro4 shocks.

My caps are ground. My friend did them with a dremel (they where his before they where mine) and you cant tell unless you take the cap off. and even then its not a big deal imo. Shims work fine but you have to deal with that extra component whenever you change shock oil Using pro4 caps is fine, but maybe you dont like how they are hex shaped, or that they only come in purple.
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Hi,

Do you know the part number of the shock caps from the Pro 4 Hara Edition that will fit the cyclone shock bodies.

Are the shock bottoms hex style too and will these fit the cyclone shocks?

Thanks!
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Old 07-12-2006, 10:19 AM
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this will fit the cyclone:
#A787 SHOCK CAP 12mm (PURPLE ANODIZED)
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I changed mine the Square produced caps, they have a handy grip around the top as well

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Old 07-12-2006, 10:43 AM
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hi all, ive got the spring set being talked about above but im racing carpet and i really think that i should be using harder springs than the 22.4lbs...

what do you reckomend? is there another hpi set or am i supposed to get another makes? which are best (for hard springs...)

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Is there a hex shaped cap that will work
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Where can I get some AHRP batteries?

Just for those killer looking labels!
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Originally Posted by TFR
Where can I get some AHRP batteries?

Just for those killer looking labels!
I want some too...

but I thought he was using CheckPoint batteries.
is the pic Hara's car? looks like a Keyence speedo in there.
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