Exotek F1R
#2311
Tech Champion
iTrader: (15)
Wait, what??
So, you're saying you may do a package that includes:
I sure as H-E-double hockey sticks hope so!!
Do you have an ETA on this? So I can order when available.
Thank you, sir!
So, you're saying you may do a package that includes:
- #1570 - F1R3 PRO CONVERSION
- #1473 - F1 IFS INDEPENDENT FRONT SUSPENSION SET
- #1205 - F104 ADJUSTABLE FRONT ARM SET
I sure as H-E-double hockey sticks hope so!!
Do you have an ETA on this? So I can order when available.
Thank you, sir!
#2313
Has anyone tried the Fenix racing gear diff? Pretty neat idea and wondering how it compares on carpet to the standard ball diff.
Also, what is the smallest gage wire I should run from the ESC to the motor?
Also, what is the smallest gage wire I should run from the ESC to the motor?
Last edited by RollingChicane2; 12-29-2016 at 09:57 AM.
#2314
#2316
Compared to a good ball diff it:
- Has better drive through loaded corners and on slow corner exit.
- Allows for more brake power to be used.
- has a reduced tenancy to push on power and at high speed corner entry.
- has a consistent more precise feeling with less tendency to lift from the rear.
- Reduces rear stability through all on power corners and corner exit.
- Carries significantly less speed into and through the corner.
- Scrubs much more in s-turns.
- Seems to take a lap or 2 to warm up on medium bite carpet.
Overall I would say it favors shorter point and shoot layouts & higher bite conditions on 21.5 power. On short mixed circuits it has yielded a slower single fast lap but comparable top 5 avg. With a 25.5 it has been much slower than a ball diff for me.
Mark
#2317
I have one and although it works well it has not proven to be faster than a good ball diff any of the circuits I have tried it at.
Compared to a good ball diff it:
Overall I would say it favors shorter point and shoot layouts & higher bite conditions on 21.5 power. On short mixed circuits it has yielded a slower single fast lap but comparable top 5 avg. With a 25.5 it has been much slower than a ball diff for me.
Mark
Compared to a good ball diff it:
- Has better drive through loaded corners and on slow corner exit.
- Allows for more brake power to be used.
- has a reduced tenancy to push on power and at high speed corner entry.
- has a consistent more precise feeling with less tendency to lift from the rear.
- Reduces rear stability through all on power corners and corner exit.
- Carries significantly less speed into and through the corner.
- Scrubs much more in s-turns.
- Seems to take a lap or 2 to warm up on medium bite carpet.
Overall I would say it favors shorter point and shoot layouts & higher bite conditions on 21.5 power. On short mixed circuits it has yielded a slower single fast lap but comparable top 5 avg. With a 25.5 it has been much slower than a ball diff for me.
Mark
Looks like instead of upgrading to the gear diff, I will likely upgrade the F1R2 to F1R3 specs as they cost nearly the same amount.
#2318
Tech Master
iTrader: (41)
The gear diff is a huge advantage on the new high byte black crc carpet, not so much on low to medium byte surfaces. I have raced it from black high byte carpet to loose asphalt. Eventually your going to see it in almost every pan car class just like you see the fluid filled gear diff in TC type classes.
idbdoug
#2319
I have an F1R3 with Fenix gear diff. Definitely go with the upgrade from F1R2 to F1R3(which I did) but even more importantly get the IFS front end upgrade if you dont have it already. I had the IFS on my F1R2 and I feel it is more important than doing the F1R3 conversion first.
The gear diff is a huge advantage on the new high byte black crc carpet, not so much on low to medium byte surfaces. I have raced it from black high byte carpet to loose asphalt. Eventually your going to see it in almost every pan car class just like you see the fluid filled gear diff in TC type classes.
idbdoug
The gear diff is a huge advantage on the new high byte black crc carpet, not so much on low to medium byte surfaces. I have raced it from black high byte carpet to loose asphalt. Eventually your going to see it in almost every pan car class just like you see the fluid filled gear diff in TC type classes.
idbdoug
Thanks for the insight IDBDoug. I just received the IFS kit yesterday in the mail along with the machine dampener rods, soft top spring set and soft IFS spring set.
We race on the old gray carpet and we tend to be very low traction compared to any other track I have ever raced on. Do you have a recommendation on where to start with top spring and IFS spring (Exotek spring choice)?
#2320
I am Building an F1R3....may know somebody though that is interested. In Detroit.... Where abouts are you?
#2321
Tech Master
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Thanks for the insight IDBDoug. I just received the IFS kit yesterday in the mail along with the machine dampener rods, soft top spring set and soft IFS spring set.
We race on the old gray carpet and we tend to be very low traction compared to any other track I have ever raced on. Do you have a recommendation on where to start with top spring and IFS spring (Exotek spring choice)?
We race on the old gray carpet and we tend to be very low traction compared to any other track I have ever raced on. Do you have a recommendation on where to start with top spring and IFS spring (Exotek spring choice)?
If esc has some kind of punch control, turn it down low since your low byte, often overlooked but very important function for any rubber tire pan car.
idbdoug
#2322
Center shock spring soft(red tamiya) and start with grey front ifs springs. MikeR posted AAron's setup for high byte but it should be close to what you need, maybe also angle the center shock a little more or less flat than what Aaron used on high byte.
If esc has some kind of punch control, turn it down low since your low byte, often overlooked but very important function for any rubber tire pan car.
idbdoug
If esc has some kind of punch control, turn it down low since your low byte, often overlooked but very important function for any rubber tire pan car.
idbdoug
I can't wait to try out the IFS and get F1 going again at our track.
#2323
Tech Adept
I can probably expect the answer to this but how much am I limiting myself by not upgrading to the IFS? I've got the adjustable upper arms but still the stock F104 lower arms.
To be completely honest, I haven't even set the car on track (indoor carpet btw) since I installed the upper arms over a month ago. So I don't have a semi-baseline to compare to yet. What can I expect (or what am I missing)?
To be completely honest, I haven't even set the car on track (indoor carpet btw) since I installed the upper arms over a month ago. So I don't have a semi-baseline to compare to yet. What can I expect (or what am I missing)?
#2324
Tech Champion
iTrader: (15)
I can probably expect the answer to this but how much am I limiting myself by not upgrading to the IFS? I've got the adjustable upper arms but still the stock F104 lower arms.
To be completely honest, I haven't even set the car on track (indoor carpet btw) since I installed the upper arms over a month ago. So I don't have a semi-baseline to compare to yet. What can I expect (or what am I missing)?
To be completely honest, I haven't even set the car on track (indoor carpet btw) since I installed the upper arms over a month ago. So I don't have a semi-baseline to compare to yet. What can I expect (or what am I missing)?
#2325
Tech Adept