Ask Steve "The Evicerator" Weiss
#6768
The Evicerator
The systems will shut down as well if the motor becomes too hot.
Did you happen to notice any light codes on the ESC when this happened?
It is possible that your friend simply has an "overly sensitive" thermal shut down...
If you bring it in there's a good chance we can get it taken care of.
Did you happen to notice any light codes on the ESC when this happened?
It is possible that your friend simply has an "overly sensitive" thermal shut down...
If you bring it in there's a good chance we can get it taken care of.
#6769
Tech Elite
iTrader: (28)
The systems will shut down as well if the motor becomes too hot.
Did you happen to notice any light codes on the ESC when this happened?
It is possible that your friend simply has an "overly sensitive" thermal shut down...
If you bring it in there's a good chance we can get it taken care of.
Did you happen to notice any light codes on the ESC when this happened?
It is possible that your friend simply has an "overly sensitive" thermal shut down...
If you bring it in there's a good chance we can get it taken care of.
Yeah the LED code is saying that its thermalling. Sounds like ill definately be taking it in then, thanks!
#6771
Tech Elite
iTrader: (28)
ill just take it in and let Novak sort it out. The Havoc system is still under warranty...it hasnt even been out 120 days officially i dont think. Thats 4 months! I dont think anyone could have found this system on any shelves back in november-ish of last year? Thats how i see it at least...just sucks that the recepit was lost :/
#6772
Steve....I had 2 questions 1 on Xray's thread I was looking at your snowbirds setup and was wandering what made you go with low front roll center? 2 what type diff were you using?
Thanks:
Steve V.
Thanks:
Steve V.
#6773
The Evicerator
Hey Steve,
To answer your questions:
In the front I was using the plastic 34 tooth spool... in the rear ran a standard aluminum/34 tooth diff.
As far as the front roll center goes... it's just been a bit of an experiment lately really... if you change just that by itself the car will usually get more aggressive than if it had a higher front roll center...
Most of the carpet rubber tire guys have been running high roll center in the front and mid in the rear for quite a while... Now they've migrated to mid front and mid rear and it seems like they're doing even better... maybe I'm a little ahead of the curve with the low front roll center?
If you try the setup and it is too agressive though that's something that you can easily change... just go to mid front roll center and it should mellow the car out quite a bit.
To answer your questions:
In the front I was using the plastic 34 tooth spool... in the rear ran a standard aluminum/34 tooth diff.
As far as the front roll center goes... it's just been a bit of an experiment lately really... if you change just that by itself the car will usually get more aggressive than if it had a higher front roll center...
Most of the carpet rubber tire guys have been running high roll center in the front and mid in the rear for quite a while... Now they've migrated to mid front and mid rear and it seems like they're doing even better... maybe I'm a little ahead of the curve with the low front roll center?
If you try the setup and it is too agressive though that's something that you can easily change... just go to mid front roll center and it should mellow the car out quite a bit.
#6774
Thanks Steve what help could you give for my 009eu that pushes it has no Frnt bite I run mostly low grip but even on a high bite track I cant get it to turn I have ran the spool but it seems to amplify the problem. Why is the spool so popular? why not oneway/oneway fixed or Diff I have seen alot of guys running diffs in rubber tire what makes one better than the other for rubber tire? I am new to rubber tire on carpet so any help would be great. Here is my setup its alot like Leimux's from the novak race:
Frnt:
Oneway
4,degree caster
1.5mm droop
1.3 sway
3rd hole out shock
1mm shim at C-hub
40wt shock oil 50% reboud 3hole piston
3.0 springs
Standard roll center
No post
0 degrees toe out
1.5 degrees camber
1mm shims behind arm mounts
REAR
2.0 dgrees toe in
Standard roll center
no sway
30wt oil 50% rebound 3 hole piston
1mm droop
2.8 springs
3rd hole shock position
1mm shim at C-hub
Arms shimmed forward for wheel base
5mm ride hieght frnt and 5.5 mm rear
Again thanks,
Steve V.
Frnt:
Oneway
4,degree caster
1.5mm droop
1.3 sway
3rd hole out shock
1mm shim at C-hub
40wt shock oil 50% reboud 3hole piston
3.0 springs
Standard roll center
No post
0 degrees toe out
1.5 degrees camber
1mm shims behind arm mounts
REAR
2.0 dgrees toe in
Standard roll center
no sway
30wt oil 50% rebound 3 hole piston
1mm droop
2.8 springs
3rd hole shock position
1mm shim at C-hub
Arms shimmed forward for wheel base
5mm ride hieght frnt and 5.5 mm rear
Again thanks,
Steve V.
Last edited by NUCRPTRACER; 02-23-2009 at 02:19 PM.
#6775
Tech Rookie
OVAL SPUR PINION SETUP NOVAK 5800SSBRUSHLESS
PLZ help I have old hyperdrive pan car need a good pinion spur setup track is about 25 ft straightways oval carpet flat foams 5800SS setup which setting will get me fast but at the right tempI dont wanna burn anything up I dont have a temp gun all help is greatly appreciated to this NUBIE
#6776
The Evicerator
Hey Nucrptracer,
The nice thing about a spool is that it generally runs pretty consistantly on power to off power... you can use the brakes even! With a one way sometimes the car reacts much differently from on power to off power... and the use of brakes is not recommended.
One thing that you might want to try doing is running 50 mm drive shafts in the front of your car.
I generally run 50 mm drive shafts front and rear because they make the car more aggressive and roll more... but others might not like that feel at all... it's really personal preference.
Also, what kind of spacing are you running on the front of your car? I have been running standard 1.5 mm spacing on the bulkheads, but running narrower hex adaptors lately. This is something else to play with if you are having front end bite issues.
The nice thing about a spool is that it generally runs pretty consistantly on power to off power... you can use the brakes even! With a one way sometimes the car reacts much differently from on power to off power... and the use of brakes is not recommended.
One thing that you might want to try doing is running 50 mm drive shafts in the front of your car.
I generally run 50 mm drive shafts front and rear because they make the car more aggressive and roll more... but others might not like that feel at all... it's really personal preference.
Also, what kind of spacing are you running on the front of your car? I have been running standard 1.5 mm spacing on the bulkheads, but running narrower hex adaptors lately. This is something else to play with if you are having front end bite issues.
Thanks Steve what help could you give for my 009eu that pushes it has no Frnt bite I run mostly low grip but even on a high bite track I cant get it to turn I have ran the spool but it seems to amplify the problem. Why is the spool so popular? why not oneway/oneway fixed or Diff I have seen alot of guys running diffs in rubber tire what makes one better than the other for rubber tire? I am new to rubber tire on carpet so any help would be great. Here is my setup its alot like Leimux's from the novak race:
Frnt:
Oneway
4,degree caster
1.5mm droop
1.3 sway
3rd hole out shock
1mm shim at C-hub
40wt shock oil 50% reboud 3hole piston
3.0 springs
Standard roll center
No post
0 degrees toe out
1.5 degrees camber
1mm shims behind arm mounts
REAR
2.0 dgrees toe in
Standard roll center
no sway
30wt oil 50% rebound 3 hole piston
1mm droop
2.8 springs
3rd hole shock position
1mm shim at C-hub
Arms shimmed forward for wheel base
5mm ride hieght frnt and 5.5 mm rear
Again thanks,
Steve V.
Frnt:
Oneway
4,degree caster
1.5mm droop
1.3 sway
3rd hole out shock
1mm shim at C-hub
40wt shock oil 50% reboud 3hole piston
3.0 springs
Standard roll center
No post
0 degrees toe out
1.5 degrees camber
1mm shims behind arm mounts
REAR
2.0 dgrees toe in
Standard roll center
no sway
30wt oil 50% rebound 3 hole piston
1mm droop
2.8 springs
3rd hole shock position
1mm shim at C-hub
Arms shimmed forward for wheel base
5mm ride hieght frnt and 5.5 mm rear
Again thanks,
Steve V.
#6777
I am running the standard 1.5 spacing.....I have thought about the hexes....I will try the shafts and the spool again....Why is the diff not recommended for the rubber but it is for the foam???
#6778
Tech Master
iTrader: (35)
We are currently evaluating different solutions with regards to power capacitors for use with 1S lipo power sources.
For the time being you will likely still get better performance with the standard GTB power cap than you would with the smaller 16v 680 uf cap used on the XBR. But I don't see any harm in using the smaller cap for space savings.
For the time being you will likely still get better performance with the standard GTB power cap than you would with the smaller 16v 680 uf cap used on the XBR. But I don't see any harm in using the smaller cap for space savings.
#6779
The Evicerator
Is this an original SS5800 motor? If so I would recommend a 1.50" rollout... if it is a newer style 8.5 SS Pro motor with sintered rotor I would recommend 1.70" rollout.
PLZ help I have old hyperdrive pan car need a good pinion spur setup track is about 25 ft straightways oval carpet flat foams 5800SS setup which setting will get me fast but at the right tempI dont wanna burn anything up I dont have a temp gun all help is greatly appreciated to this NUBIE
#6780
The Evicerator
With foam tires and a spool, the tires have so much traction that the front end becomes very grabby and inconsistant feeling due to the fact that each tire is essentially turning a different radius and trying to exert a high force on the car. With a diff these forces are are somewhat absorbed partially by the differential action and it results in a smoother more controllable car.
Haven't really gotten enough feedback from people yet... Keep checking back!