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Old 04-03-2011, 12:50 PM
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Just a quick question. Are the diff rings different on the TRF417 as compared to the 416?

I want to get my hands on the MuchMore diff setting tool but want to make sure it will work with the 417 diff rings.

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Old 04-03-2011, 01:43 PM
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Yep, 417 uses D rings. The tool doesn't work.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:21 PM
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Will the MuchMore setting tool that thye make for the Hot Bodies or Xray product fit the d-rings on the 417?
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Just like to say i like this car more each week i run it! I'm running mod with this thing and i haven't changed much from the kit set up. This is the fastest I've been in a very long time.
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are you beating the Teacher M3 thats what I wants to know... and
are you beating up the James borthers also
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Originally Posted by cyclone speed
Hello, just concerning setup between tracks, what are the main changes between going from carpet to asphalt ?
What should be the first thing changed or what does everyone tend to change?
I was looking at some setup sheets and I think that most people tend to run shocks more upright, thinner oil, higher roll centeron the inner pivot. And also the longer links .
Am I right ?
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Honestly, the biggest changes I would make between carpet and asphalt would be springs, and maybe oil.
Starting setup for asphalt is HPI Silvers all round, with 450wt oil, whilst indoors it would be Tamiya white/blue, with 500wt oil.

Otherwise, I tend to leave the rest of geometry alone until I get to the track and see what it needs altering.

An interesting point is that I actually tend to alter the roll centre more when changing class, rather than indoors or out. With higher wind motors, I'll tend to run a higher roll centre for more corner speed.

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Originally Posted by AtownT
I am in the process of trying to decide which TRF car to purchase, a 416x or 417. I come to you with this question. Knowing what you know now, which car would you purchase, a slightly used TRF416x or a new TRF417? I have the opportunity to purchase a TRF416x with a bunch of spare parts for $140 less than a new TRF417 with a few spare parts. I have never raced on-road so I will have a learning curve with both cars. Would you go for the older car at a lesser price or a newer car with the newer technology?
To be honest, whilst the 417 is the latest car (and I do believe is faster), you really can't go wrong with a used 416X. As you mention, your starting out in on-road, and the money you save on the 416 could be put towards other stuff (tyres?).
Both cars use the same suspension components, so all the usual spares will be available for a while.

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Originally Posted by Vicko
are you beating the Teacher M3 thats what I wants to know... and
are you beating up the James borthers also
Not Teach but the james brothers. They will get it together soon though. When are you coming out?
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Originally Posted by M3dreamin2008
Just like to say i like this car more each week i run it! I'm running mod with this thing and i haven't changed much from the kit set up. This is the fastest I've been in a very long time.
What springs were you running? I used blue front and yellow rear. The car felt ok, just lazy in the corner. I cannot find the HPI silver springs anywhere
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Originally Posted by M3dreamin2008
Just like to say i like this car more each week i run it! I'm running mod with this thing and i haven't changed much from the kit set up. This is the fastest I've been in a very long time.
im getting one bc the car made M3 fast, cant stand losing to M3 anymore
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Originally Posted by TryHard
To be honest, whilst the 417 is the latest car (and I do believe is faster), you really can't go wrong with a used 416X. As you mention, your starting out in on-road, and the money you save on the 416 could be put towards other stuff (tyres?).
Both cars use the same suspension components, so all the usual spares will be available for a while.

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Ok thank you Ed

And just a quick question to anyone; the white/blue/yellow springs that come with the kit, are they white short or yellow short or blue short or just normal white ?
As the short version of the same spring are softer, so when I try and compare, I know which one im doing xD.
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Originally Posted by Jamison R
What springs were you running? I used blue front and yellow rear. The car felt ok, just lazy in the corner. I cannot find the HPI silver springs anywhere
I ran blue front and yellow rear with 450wt oil all around. I normally run blues all around. Just ordered some HPI silver springs though. What tires were you running?
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PizzaDude
Hé dude,

Yeah, was pondering that sollution.
At this time probably my best shot.
Although they're a bit pricey
Tamiya version coming May 28th.

42192 TRF Damper Large Diameter Retainer (4pcs.)
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kentech
Tamiya version coming May 28th.

42192 TRF Damper Large Diameter Retainer (4pcs.)
Man, 2 more months
Thanks for the info
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Can someone help me with something? I was looking at the setup sheet, and there are these number 1 2 3 4 on the front and rear lower arms what do they do ?
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