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rccartips 03-31-2019 06:53 AM

Had fun, setup somewhat working, but ugly. Springs are super hard, relying on tires and traction compound for tuning. Diff oil I think around 3 to 5K, light. Nice to have a battle with our fastest F1 car, gives me a baseline of how my tuning is going.


Still not happy nor confident it can win. So I am working on my M04 :)

Raman 03-31-2019 09:50 AM

That’s impressive Joel!! Curious what gearing are you running in M06.

For a Tamiya TCS race we can only run kit gear with 20t, and Reedy fix timing 21.5. Our track has a very long straight.. I go on a coffee break while on the back straight lol.

Interestingly, I run Roche F1.. i love it.. it’s a fantastic chassis!

rccartips 03-31-2019 04:54 PM

Hi Raman, just running the stock 20t pinion and stock tamiya internal gears, with shorty lipo. Motor is Tamiya 15T brushless with max timing. Nice to see a plastic mini beat a high end Roche :)

ruebiracer 04-01-2019 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by Raman (Post 15423224)
That’s impressive Joel!! Curious what gearing are you running in M06.

For a Tamiya TCS race we can only run kit gear with 20t, and Reedy fix timing 21.5. Our track has a very long straight.. I go on a coffee break while on the back straight lol.

Interestingly, I run Roche F1.. i love it.. it’s a fantastic chassis!

Hi Raman,
do you know, where your Timing is fixed with the Reedy? Would be interesting for me to know. We run nowadys 16T sensorless Carson Combo, but on the straights we are not faster than a good example of our old silvercan with built in fan "Carson Cup machine". Torque is of Course better with the Brushless Combo...

Good luck for you and the upcoming race!
Matthias

ruebiracer 04-01-2019 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by rccartips (Post 15423132)
Had fun, setup somewhat working, but ugly. Springs are super hard, relying on tires and traction compound for tuning. Diff oil I think around 3 to 5K, light. Nice to have a battle with our fastest F1 car, gives me a baseline of how my tuning is going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmukfEPEejI

Still not happy nor confident it can win. So I am working on my M04 :)

Cool training battle Joel,
interesting comparison! But you have to trust your M06 more!:D
But if you share your mods of your M04 here, this would really be interesting, too. I also still have my old M04 in the shelf, but always preferred the M06, because it suited better my driving style…
Br,
Matthias

rccartips 04-03-2019 03:22 PM

Problem with M06 is while there is rear traction, corner speed is not flowing. But still trying to squeeze some speed out of it :)


Hopefully I can test my M04 and M06 this weekend to find out which is faster.

Nerobro 04-03-2019 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by rccartips (Post 15425431)
Problem with M06 is while there is rear traction, corner speed is not flowing. But still trying to squeeze some speed out of it :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckt5X0WhQF8

Hopefully I can test my M04 and M06 this weekend to find out which is faster.

I love your videos man. People look at me strangely because I keep a notebook. :-)

Raman 04-04-2019 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by ruebiracer (Post 15423745)
Hi Raman,
do you know, where your Timing is fixed with the Reedy? Would be interesting for me to know. We run nowadys 16T sensorless Carson Combo, but on the straights we are not faster than a good example of our old silvercan with built in fan "Carson Cup machine". Torque is of Course better with the Brushless Combo...

Good luck for you and the upcoming race!
Matthias

I just ordered motor this week.. should arrive this weekend. Not sure of what ° timing is fixed at.. would need to borrow a motor analyser for that.

ruebiracer 04-04-2019 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Raman (Post 15426064)


I just ordered motor this week.. should arrive this weekend. Not sure of what ° timing is fixed at.. would need to borrow a motor analyser for that.

Ah, o.k.,
no Need you buy an analyzer for me! :lol: But if there are some specs given like R.P.M., that would be fine. Just asking, because I want to estimate how much revelations such an actual 21,5t brings. Because Timing makes a huge difference in topspeed on these…
Br, Matthias

rccartips 04-05-2019 03:30 PM

21.5t can do 30K for motor tuners at any timng :D

Raman 04-05-2019 03:49 PM

Then it’s no longer a 21.5 lol. More like a 13.5!

rccartips 04-05-2019 08:18 PM

Nope, the 13.5 tuned are running 45krpm... hahahha.

ErikJan 04-06-2019 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by ruebiracer (Post 15426254)
Ah, o.k.,
no Need you buy an analyzer for me! :lol: But if there are some specs given like R.P.M., that would be fine. Just asking, because I want to estimate how much revelations such an actual 21,5t brings. Because Timing makes a huge difference in topspeed on these…
Br, Matthias

Since this season all the Carson 16t motors are checked at our Dutch tamiyacup and some clubraces. We use them in truck and mini. All are in the range 2450-2650 kV
We also use the Carson speed controler.
Topspeed in a mini with 20t pinion is about 40kmh.

Raman 04-06-2019 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by rccartips (Post 15426754)
Nope, the 13.5 tuned are running 45krpm... hahahha.

stock baby stock spec lol. tuning is not aloud

ruebiracer 04-06-2019 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by ErikJan (Post 15426813)
Since this season all the Carson 16t motors are checked at our Dutch tamiyacup and some clubraces. We use them in truck and mini. All are in the range 2450-2650 kV
We also use the Carson speed controler.
Topspeed in a mini with 20t pinion is about 40kmh.

Thank you Erik-Jan, it´s the same Combo as we use. Do you know, which tester is used for the brushless motors?


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