M06 carcs......reply....
 

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Greetings from Finland! Have been practicing with SWB 210 M06 for one year. This topic has been very useful in finding different set ups. Thank for everyone sharing all this info.

Weak part in my car is rear body post mount. Where could I find one off these (see pic attached):

JAZRIDER - Tamiya - M-Chassis Parts - M06-13008-LB M06 Aluminum Rear Body Post (Light Blue). Or is there some other brand of M06 Aluminum Rear Body Post? Posts it self are not the problem, but mounts are weak.

I come from South West Finland city called Turku. If interested in local RC hobby, please visit Facebook / Turunrckerho . We have own indoor track with carpet. In same building are also tracks for SC cars and buggys and drifters. We also have outdoor track for for SC cars and buggy. RC club in next town has an outdoor asphalt track for touring cars.

What are you guys running for carpet setups for electronics layout? Shorty battery moved forward? back? Wheelbase setting? etc.

Those posts will bend and cause you other problems. Stick with plastic.. in 6 years of racing I have only broken one body post!

I always run with receiver esc on left, LP servo on right. I add a little bit of weight to servo side to balance chassis left to tight. Shorty pack all the way forward. I also added a tungsten weight cylinder ( pinewood car ones) in the square pocket right in front of battery, under steering bridge. Helps with steering and traction roll

I'm driving on carpet and have wt 30 oils and red springs all around. Tires are Tamiya M-Chassis Radial 60D #50683 fully sauced. No sway bars and SWB. Still a bit understeer but biggest problem is flipping rear in a fast left-rigt-left.

I have sway bar set purchased. Where to begin?

1. Lower ride height as much as you can. 3 mm front and 4 mm rear
2. Go up in oil way to soft and red springs too soft as well. Rear Try yellow with 40wt and blue with 50 wt in rear
3. Glue front side walls, only sauce inner front
4. Move battery forward as far as it goes

Thanks for this. 6mm is our minimum ride height. I'll try those oils and springs. I have an other set of Yeah Racing alu shocks and will build up replacements of those.
1. Which pistons should I use?
2. How to set limiters inside and droop?
3. Should I leave sway bars away for now?

I used to have yellow front and blue back earlier but went to softer reds to reduce understeer and it helped.

Could you please explain a bit glueing front tires and only partly sauce? Is it trying front not to be too sharp and preventing back from flipping? How to reduce understeer then?

StahlVille: we are having the bi-annual Ratamestari race in Riihimäki Finland 22nd of October. Join in!

It is a great opportunity to get setup advice from other racers. Also if your car isn't exactly to the Finnish M-Chassis Comp spec, it doesn't matter. Our idea is to encourage people to race and the rules can be relaxed for beginners.

Br

Erno

6mm is very high for any Mini.. I wonder why they chose that.

For now I recommend using the heavier oil and springs only on the rear. Front keep it soft.

To reduce understeer you need more weight in front. You can achieve this by moving battery forward, adding weight to front. There is a square pocket in front of battery under steering bar. That is a good place to add weight. You can also add weight under front bumper. This will help you with understeer. If you have the optional shock tower, you can also stand up the front shocks (outer hole position)

M chassis tyres have a soft side wall and that causes the traction roll. By gluing the side wall, you make it stiffer. Saucing the inner side will also help with traction roll.

Also try starting your turn earlier. You maybe overshooting the turn and making the car understeer.

Howdy Raman!

Thanks for all of your hints. Ride height in Finland is 6m cause many carpet tracks are not so flat you could drive lower. We even use some temporarily tracks which are made in school gyms for weekend and will be disassembled till monday morning.

I tried stocks, springs and oils like you recommended. It helped a bit. The other of two M06 drivers at our club tried my car and told me it's unusually twisting at one side in both braking and accelerating. I had been thinking it's normal with RWD and just kept trying :-) I drove his M06 and it was from outer space compared to mine.

Now it looks like one of the rear wheels is having more toe in than the other. Only bearings and schocks are metal, everything else is plastic. Pretty well shimmed though. Where should I begin to seek this extra toe in?

My M06 with Eagle Racing GRT Chassis
 

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Hi Stahlville,
good to hear there are M06 lovers in Finland, too!
I may be able to help you find your problem:
M06 has 2 to 3 tweak flaws that can be fixed, from my own bad experience in the beginning: toe in rear: You have bent an upright, probably by impact. It´s hard to notice the twist on the part itself, but you can see it good with the tire toe. As I switched to alu uprights in rear, I never had this problem again. I never saw an M06 bent at the wishbone mount on the gear box so far.
Second problem, that can be yours, is a tweak of the car. The front shock tower can twist to left or right in its mounting holes, which causes more droop left or right front. My fixing was using a carbon shock tower and thread screws with nuts. Use some 3mm Spacers on the screws. The bigger outer diameter gives less play in the upper chassis part helping prevent the twist.
Third flaw is a changing camber in rear from run to run. This is a problem of the lower rear shock tower base, where the camber links are fixed: The ball studs twist in the shock tower and are easily bent, resulting in changing rear camber from hit to hit. Fix is the Aluminum shock tower base (Tamiya or other, but Tamiya one is the most rigid version of all).
With that fixes, I never had a tweak in my M06 since years. :nod:

Good luck for your races, and have fun!
Will also have the opportunity to bring my M06 out this weekend:tire:
Hope to try my TB04 gear diff again after a mounting failure :rolleyes:.

Br from Germany,
Matthias

Hallo Matthias!

Vielen vielen Dank für Deine Hilfe. Thank a milloin for your help and advices. I'll check those spots and tell you results. I already have hop up shock towers: carbon at front, alloy at rear. I have to control how precise is my assembly is and perhaps also invest in all rear hubs.

M.f.G.

Juha

does anyone have a black carpet setup for M06?