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03-27-2019, 03:15 PM
#8596
Tech Master
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I for one run premounted tires in USGT. Running premounts prevents any questions of tires inserts. I've seen some run inserts from sweep or other makes which although may not be faster, raise a lot of issues of fairness. Coincidentally, those select few are also running full wing heights, charging to 8.7v too. lol
03-27-2019, 03:53 PM
#8597
Well you can always treat them with 303 protectant 12 to 24 hours before use so they can last twice as long. I treated my tires three weeks before I raced, and it was hard to get the center rib off completely after treatment, even after sanding and one day's worth of racing: sand the center rib off first, then treat with 303 protectant...Traction is not affected at all: I was traction rolling everywhere eventhough I had no sauce on my front glued tires on crc carpet....Hopefully I won't crash at all and see how long the usgt tires will last on a single treatment...
03-27-2019, 04:06 PM
#8598
Well you can always treat them with 303 protectant 12 to 24 hours before use so they can last twice as long. I treated my tires three weeks before I raced, and it was hard to get the center rib off completely after treatment, even after sanding and one day's worth of racing: sand the center rib off first, then treat with 303 protectant...Traction is not affected at all: I was traction rolling everywhere eventhough I had no sauce on my front glued tires on crc carpet....Hopefully I won't crash at all and see how long the usgt tires will last on a single treatment...
, you were probably traction rolling from the tc4
03-27-2019, 04:49 PM
#8599
I for one run premounted tires in USGT. Running premounts prevents any questions of tires inserts. I've seen some run inserts from sweep or other makes which although may not be faster, raise a lot of issues of fairness. Coincidentally, those select few are also running full wing heights, charging to 8.7v too. lol
And how exactly do pre-mounts prevent this ?? You can just buy the same wheels they use for pre-mounts and mount them with any insert you want.
The whole point of this class when it first started as RCGT was to introduce something different from the cookie cutter TC's ... cool bodies and wheels. After it was renamed to USGT is slowly became just another TC class no different from 21.5 tc with everyone using the same body wheels and tires ... might as well just run 21.5tc
03-27-2019, 04:59 PM
#8600
Tech Rookie
In other words they are cheating, cheating everyone else in the class including themselves as they are not competing at a level playing field ... I have zero respect for cheaters and dont forget we are just a bunch of grown men playing with toys
And how exactly do pre-mounts prevent this ?? You can just buy the same wheels they use for pre-mounts and mount them with any insert you want.
The whole point of this class when it first started as RCGT was to introduce something different from the cookie cutter TC's ... cool bodies and wheels. After it was renamed to USGT is slowly became just another TC class no different from 21.5 tc with everyone using the same body wheels and tires ... might as well just run 21.5tc
And how exactly do pre-mounts prevent this ?? You can just buy the same wheels they use for pre-mounts and mount them with any insert you want.
The whole point of this class when it first started as RCGT was to introduce something different from the cookie cutter TC's ... cool bodies and wheels. After it was renamed to USGT is slowly became just another TC class no different from 21.5 tc with everyone using the same body wheels and tires ... might as well just run 21.5tc
03-27-2019, 05:03 PM
#8601
As basically an outsider who just built his first TC a week ago for USGT (haven't even hit an actual track yet), why not just run the same spec tire but allow the use of different inserts? That way you can run whatever wheels you want without people questioning you, as it is easy to just identify the actual tire itself.
03-27-2019, 05:13 PM
#8602
Tech Master
iTrader: (15)
Per the USGT rules:
Tire & Wheel Specifications:
Tires-
Note: JANUARY 1 2014 The Ride spec tire will become the official spec tire for USGT RIE24025 - set of 4 available through Gravity RC to dealers and retail
Tires- RIE24025 - set of 4 available through Gravity RC to dealers and retail
Grinding of tire tread is NOT permitted. Sanding of mold seam to remove seam is allowed MUST USE INCLUDED INSERTS
But it will all come down to the race director at each club to what's allowed.
Tire & Wheel Specifications:
Tires-
Note: JANUARY 1 2014 The Ride spec tire will become the official spec tire for USGT RIE24025 - set of 4 available through Gravity RC to dealers and retail
Tires- RIE24025 - set of 4 available through Gravity RC to dealers and retail
Grinding of tire tread is NOT permitted. Sanding of mold seam to remove seam is allowed MUST USE INCLUDED INSERTS
But it will all come down to the race director at each club to what's allowed.
03-27-2019, 06:20 PM
#8603
Personally I find the whole spec racing scene fundamentally broken. I only do it because I have no choice if I want to race anyone. I absolutely hate driving slower cars and then being forced to buy the latest spec motor to keep up with a driver that is equal to me in skill. Here, try on these $500 hand cuffs, it will make it more fun and more people show up. AMAZING.
03-27-2019, 06:50 PM
#8604
Personally I find the whole spec racing scene fundamentally broken. I only do it because I have no choice if I want to race anyone. I absolutely hate driving slower cars and then being forced to buy the latest spec motor to keep up with a driver that is equal to me in skill. Here, try on these $500 hand cuffs, it will make it more fun and more people show up. AMAZING.
03-27-2019, 07:07 PM
#8605
Tech Rookie
Which means everyone is forced to run this pre mounted wheel/tire combo. I thought the whole purpose of USGT was to be different bodies/wheels?
Again, I'm incredibly new to this, so please excuse any of the noob questions I'm asking.
03-27-2019, 07:13 PM
#8606
Tech Prophet
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Far south suburbs of Chicago area
Posts: 17,642
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
I'm just curious as to why the insert rule was implemented in the first place. It just seems slightly silly as there is no efficient way to check someone's insert unless you cut open a tire, right?
Which means everyone is forced to run this pre mounted wheel/tire combo. I thought the whole purpose of USGT was to be different bodies/wheels?
Again, I'm incredibly new to this, so please excuse any of the noob questions I'm asking.
Which means everyone is forced to run this pre mounted wheel/tire combo. I thought the whole purpose of USGT was to be different bodies/wheels?
Again, I'm incredibly new to this, so please excuse any of the noob questions I'm asking.
I’m still relatively new to the racing side. Our group has always just required the premounts.
03-27-2019, 07:36 PM
#8607
Tech Rookie
On a completely different note, what the hell is tire sauce??? Another thing I find odd... that these weird chemicals are allowed on tires
03-27-2019, 07:51 PM
#8609
Tech Prophet
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Far south suburbs of Chicago area
Posts: 17,642
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
I'm totally fine running the premount. It just found it odd that it was made a rule for everyone to use the same insert, since there is no easy way to check someone's insert.
On a completely different note, what the hell is tire sauce??? Another thing I find odd... that these weird chemicals are allowed on tires
On a completely different note, what the hell is tire sauce??? Another thing I find odd... that these weird chemicals are allowed on tires
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03-27-2019, 07:56 PM
#8610
Tech Rookie
Tire traction compound. With the wide range of surfaces raced on, its a legal aid. On carpet it’s all but impossible to run without. I tried my first time on carpet. There’s some carpet, pavement, even clay for off road.
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I was going to head to my local hobby shop/track to turn some laps on their carpet track this Friday as practice. Their outdoor road course won't be set up until next month.