Get real, Bert. Nobody says "I lost because my body doesn't look accurate enough".

Not accurate enough = illegal = Complainant got beat badly !!! I guess we are discovering which new "series" all the complainants will participate in, but they will still find a way to complain for having lost again.....Peace.....

It's not a performance thing in my mind, winning / losing doesn't matter to me, just seems the spirit of USGT is getting lost, but i'm also one that thinks flames and tattoo paint jobs shouldn't be in F1 or USGT either.

I agree that USGT may have lost its spirit a little bit , This last years round of motor wars killed it for me during the outdoor season. I ran VTA and a 21.5 spec class during the summer . Now at the carpet track I race at USGT is nearly dead ( at least right now). There has been a resurgence of TC classes , 21.5 spec, 13.5 spec and Mod . I have to say I like the TC 21.5 class better then USGT (at least right now ), Less Drama.

If it's approved, it's legal. You don't get to claim it's illegal just because you don't like the look of it. Unless you're robk.

Oh good - another USGT body pissing match ........ I was afraid I missed it. :nod:

Nope you didn't miss it. If there are any new bodies coming out soon this will continue for weeks........:nod:

At the local level clubs already can and do override the approved body list, there's no need for yet another class.

Correct......They also override the approved motor list.......It will never end: some folks just can't stop bending the rules to their advantage.....

Did you miss the part where I said they already do?

RobK,

Have the new Exotek GT body been added to the approved USGT list?

EXOTEK: #1762 P-ZERO GT #1863 R•TEK GT

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NO, the best guide is that if you can walk into a showroom and buy it it is likely an approved body, You cannot buy a Daytona prototype at any dealership....that is the difference.

FYI, they are not 'race car based', they are street cars first.

Can't do that with the Venom that was recently approved either...

its just never gonna end is it? Some manufacturer could come up with a mazda miata body and someone on here would ask if that made the McAllister Daytona bodies legal.

Well if you want to race those bodies , Start your own sub class at your local track . We did it this last summer at Leisure Hours in Joliet IL. We stayed with almost all GT rules except HW 21.5 motor and a Tamiya Scirocco body . It was a lot of fun we had 5- 8 cars everytime we raced .

It's happening primarily because the Daytona and the Riley were both legal previously. Many racers were not happy with the fact they were removed without warning. But, so goes the dictatorship. It was my understanding that a group of racers were complaining about the bodies, so, they were removed.

The group complaining about VTA tires has tried and continues with the same strategy.

I once had a professor who loved the quote, " no horse is too dead to beat". Ironically, it was a negotiation course lol.

bodies in USGT, tires in VTA.... wish my internet would break down

Agreed. I given up on both topics. At this point neither really matter much to me anymore.

Im going racing USVTA

How about a Radical RCZ Turbo 500 based on 2015 prototype

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Good luck claiming IP on the term abbreviation of RC. It's like trying to trade mark someone surname. It can not be litigated against. Trust me from personal experience, I was sent a cease and desist letter by a guy with the same name as mine. My layer just laughed.😉

The Venom was designed to be a street car, with horn and turn signals, not a purpose built race car like the DP cars the McCallister bodies are copied from.


My guess is that more people complained about those bodies in GT than there were that wanted it....and that's likely why it was removed from the list.....just my opinion.

so how does the new r tek body feel compared to the p zero
Anyone running the venom? how does it feel:deathstar

don't know, but the PROTOform Ford GT has beaten all 3 of them in 2 weeks...LOL....I love that body

Ever tried a P-Zero or R-Tek? Ohh never mind. :D

ha ha...the Rteck looks good on the track, and the Venom adds to the class...I personally rather see a mix of bodies than just 1 body used.... this past Sunday, we had the Ford GT, Chevy Z28, the R-tek, the Pzero, Vette C7, and the Zr1... it looked good

Comparing between Rtek, P-Zero and Venom, I am looking also suggestion for carpet tracks too.

Best regards

Love this bodyhttps://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...69e3030d7b.jpg
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I tried both of them. the R Tek has more steeringcompare the P Zero , but The P-Zero is much smoother to drive...tested on black carpet..
I think the T-Tek will be perfect for asphalt.....
the frontend of the Venom look very close to R-Tek

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