I guess I'm in the minority, but to me the thing that makes the GT cars look good is that they look like a car, not like a bar of soap with wheels. I don't care even a little if the car is in fact a scale model of a real car that you can buy or not; I just want it to look like an actual car; real or not. I mean, look how cool that blue Ford GT body posted above looks. What if that car was designed, revealed as a prototype, then sh@tcanned by Ford and never made, but PROTOform made that body anyway. Would it somehow not look as cool? What if there was no such thing as a real Ford GT at alll, but they came up with that body anyway, is it mysteriously not cool now?

Don't get me wrong, I get it that the class was created for scale cars. I'm just saying that for me it's the car look that I really enjoy; I don't really care if it's actually a scale model of a real life car or not, as long as it looks like something that _could_ be a real car...not a bar of soap.

Bar of soap with wheels I love it:D

In response to 1/12 scale and slot car body trends, I am used to hearing "doorstop".

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As you can see I'm not into the bars of soap either however I am going to try the r-tek and put about 40 grams of decals and side mirrors and realistic wing and probably a windshield wiper as well on it to make it look awesome I will post pics when done but I'm curious to see how their performance fares to my collection of bodies

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Even doorstops have more rake than your average 1/12 body

nutdriver how does that benz run? was thinking of trying one.....paint looks nice:D I like how you paint to match the 1-1

Protoform PFM10
 

I know the Protoform is not the latest and greatest, but how does it perform on the track? I was running a Protoform Cadillac ATSV. It seemed to do well, but I'm new to USGT.

Just painted up a PFM10, hence the question.https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...45c1889533.jpg

^^^^^ Good stable body. Very susceptible to body tucks.

Outstanding collection of GT bodies

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still like mine...2nd Fav...next to the Ford GT

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NSX has several wins on asphalt and carpet and is probably the fastest USGT bodies that I've used. The GTI has one race finished 2nd. Not the fastest, but definitely the sexiest!!

Seriously? ANYBODY who thinks that MX-Stang is even close to a scale representation of the new Mustangs is willingly deluding themselves because they prefer the performance benefit over the proper looks. A Mustang snout does NOT droop like that...this is pretty much what an IMCA Late Model version (or possibly NHRA Funny Car) of what a Mustang would look like.

Not even.

That said, my body is not on the list. A Datsun 240Z that pays tribute to John Morton's 1971 SCCA C-Production National Champion. I bought two of these on e-Bay a couple years ago but can't find them listed any longer. Some outfit in southern California that seemed to specialize in RC drift stuff. It has more modern flares but is a pretty nice scale representation of a modified Datsun. Wonder if I'd be turned away at a big race somewhere...this is kind of what I'd liked about what USGT before folks started feeling the need to win at any cost...a potential variety of bodies. My first body was going to be a HPI Pantera that I have, a tribute to Warren Tope's Trans Am car. It has REALLY wide flares, but the original USGT rules allowed any offset wheels, 9mm rear and 6mm front wheels with the spec Ride tires made it look GREAT. I'm sure it wouldn't have handled terribly well with that 6mm track width difference F/R, but I'm not that keen on winning. First "bigger" race I was going to, the Mile HIgh Champs in Denver they required pre-mounts...apparently folks just can't leave well enough alone of a GREAT thing...gotta break the rules. That body looked entirely wrong with the standard offset wheels, so I quickly got a Vaterra (HEAVY!!) '71 Corvette and had it painted as a tribute to John Greenwood's 1971 SCCA A-Production National Champion. Everybody loved it when I raced it (only get to run USGT a couple times a year). That said, when I did it there wasn't an approved body list, just some common-sense guidelines. Now that there's a list, it ain't on it either yet it is, again, EXACTLY what I thought the class was intended to encourage. F-ing "racers"...drive me nuts. https://www.rctech.net/forum/classic...ilies/wink.gifhttps://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...e6109911fd.jpg
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So. Just what is your point? Exactly. More or less.

I know some companies could have tried to represent certain brands more accurately but nobody is perfect. If it is approved and you don't like the looks, just buy the approved bodies you like: no need to bash anybody's product here......

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Cue argument about custom race cars vs walking into a dealership...

Im assuming thats a Tamiya body? If so what body is that and we can look to get it added to the list.
Thanks

I'll put numbers on it to keep it easy for ya...

1) USGT created to provide an intermediate step between too fast (and ugly as sin) TC and (some argue) too slow VTA (which look cool as hell). ORIGINAL class rules did not have a body list...merely a description of what would be a desirable body as-envisioned by the class creators. Those same rules also stated that any offset or style of wheel that would accommodate the spec tire (HPI X-Pattern at that time). Idea was to create a class that was fun to drive and encourage a great diversity of great looking cars on the track.

2) RACERS who wish to win at any cost (as opposed to lower-case racers, like myself, who put the premium on having fun and a "real" aesthetic) showed up and, apparently, started cheating. First it was playing games with inserts, etc., Then bodies started deviating from acceptable standards. The rules still leave the wheels open, but bigger events (at least the ones I've attended) require the Ride pre-mount tires be used (in fact at MHIC they require tires be purchased at the event). Then an "approved body list" showed up.

Easy?

OK. It would seem that I am in agreement with you. For the most part. On the full scale side though there have been great strides forward in the overall classification of GT cars World wide which opens the door for the droopers among us that think a Civic with a venetian blind wing on it is a viable as well as beautiful "GT" car because they compete in the JTCG or whatever it is as opposed to the old yet still widely accepted GT standard for the US or the European versions of GT cars that are produced over there. The Datsun example you presented(very nice by the way) was a "C" production car that competed in the SCCA. It wasn't until IMSA came along that it was recognized as a GTU car since it fit in the under 2.5 liter requirement of the day.

It isn't my choice but if it were I think I could fix it by simply stating that USGT stands for GT cars that have competed or are competing in a GT class here in the US. In other words if you don't see it competing in a televised series on American soil then you can't run it in any "officially" sanctioned USGT race. As always, track operators have the final say for their own facilities as long as it isn't a sanctioned event.

As for the tires, since there is no way to enforce the insert rule, I don't think requiring tires for sanctioned events to be purchased at the event is unreasonable. I understand the cosmetics aspect but if you watch a televised event you will be hard pressed to find an assortment of cosmetically pleasing wheels throughout the field.

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It was great. We had two heats worth at WCRC. Both USGT and VTA. It was a good time. :-)

wow, that's a really sexy mustang. now i miss my real mustang :(

ford gt body looks very sleek. do you guys have any problems with the front fenders (top) collapsing on impact and impede your steering?

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this what i currently run. previously i was running the PF corvette and that one has lots of steering

Wow who did the martini body for you please post contact info or send it to me through p.m. please that thing is sweet

Realistic look
 

The pictured car is a tube frame silhouette (current Trans Am) car, NOT a "GT" car which uses seam-welded factory unibody. Two completely different animals. I'm tilting at windmills, rightly or wrongly the decision has been made.

PM sent.

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It looks like several of us had the same idea...

Martini and Gulf colors will show up on every body. As will the Mr Goodwrench #3 scheme.

You made it sound like the McAllister body was some sort of fantasy concoction. It is actually a good representation of that car.

Also, this is another case of people making up standards of what will be allowed in the class in their heads. I will now change the name of the class to "Looks like real race cars (excluding DP)", since the GT portion of the name has iron clad requirements. Worst thing I ever did was just replace the RC with US in RCGT. Who knew trying to revive a fun class would turn into a 24 hr whine fest.