220LikesTamiya FF03
11-26-2010, 11:38 PM
#1532
Thanks Jimmy that would be a big help! Since the local carpet track closed
in March I don't get to practice/test as much anymore.
While your at it could you give me your starting setup for the EVO5MS on carpet. I imagine that when it shows up it will either be the day before/of the race I'll be using it in or the Monday after.
in March I don't get to practice/test as much anymore.
While your at it could you give me your starting setup for the EVO5MS on carpet. I imagine that when it shows up it will either be the day before/of the race I'll be using it in or the Monday after.
11-26-2010, 11:58 PM
#1533
Jimmy, I'm anxious to see the carpet setup you have too.
Sorry I didn't make it out to run last sunday with the FF03s but after running Saturday F1s, just wasn't feelin it plus the fact that when I ran my FF03 during the break in our action it wasn't quite the hot ticket with the asphalt setup on it.
I got the same results on carpet as I did when I ran it on super sticky asphalt.
The extra traction really locks the heavy front end in, car gets a lot of body roll/weight transfer and gets the inside front wheel light and then it "diffs out" bigtime when gettin back on the power.
This is what I got just running a silvercan with conservative power.
Tires were Sorex 36s.
My first instinct is to slap on the stiffest sway bar up front, reduce the droop and lower the ride height a bunch.
Then maybe some shock oil and springs?
Am I on the right track?
Sorry I didn't make it out to run last sunday with the FF03s but after running Saturday F1s, just wasn't feelin it plus the fact that when I ran my FF03 during the break in our action it wasn't quite the hot ticket with the asphalt setup on it.
I got the same results on carpet as I did when I ran it on super sticky asphalt.
The extra traction really locks the heavy front end in, car gets a lot of body roll/weight transfer and gets the inside front wheel light and then it "diffs out" bigtime when gettin back on the power.
This is what I got just running a silvercan with conservative power.
Tires were Sorex 36s.
My first instinct is to slap on the stiffest sway bar up front, reduce the droop and lower the ride height a bunch.
Then maybe some shock oil and springs?
Am I on the right track?
11-27-2010, 08:03 PM
#1537
good pics, i miss the track, it's freaking cold where i live, no more outdoor racing for several months, damn.
11-28-2010, 01:35 PM
#1538
Hello Boys
We have pre-TCS warm up at our club today and I build an new FF03 pro and rush up a paint job for a buddy of mind. It turn out ok and the FF03 drive awesome with some minor tweak
We have pre-TCS warm up at our club today and I build an new FF03 pro and rush up a paint job for a buddy of mind. It turn out ok and the FF03 drive awesome with some minor tweak
11-28-2010, 01:40 PM
#1539
That is a rush up paint job?
11-28-2010, 01:43 PM
#1540
It looked great on the track, but that huge rear wing isn't the one that comes with the body and surely cannot be TCS legal. The Tamiya 1996 Honda Accord body #84138 uses a small low wing as seen in the attached picture.
Last edited by SteveM; 10-02-2011 at 06:52 AM.
11-28-2010, 01:46 PM
#1541
Work on the paint mask on Friday night and paint it on Saturday, then race it on Today... it is a rush and pushing it for this one and made a few error on it.... Head light and tail light is not done and you can see the head light is clear.. and the word "Toll is too small" as I forgot to double check on the proportion before I cut the paint mask.. 
Anyway, it still turn ok better then I expected.
Anyway, it still turn ok better then I expected.
11-28-2010, 01:53 PM
#1542
Don't know the actual car so can't comment on the paint job.
Looks good.
Beats my one hour paint jobs .. lol
Looks good.
Beats my one hour paint jobs .. lol
11-28-2010, 02:40 PM
#1544
11-28-2010, 05:53 PM
#1545
I don't mean to step on anyone's toes for a carpet setup, but the setup I have been using that I'm pretty happy with is below. It's pretty aggressive, has tons of turn in and front traction, and is slightly loose in the back which is what I prefer. It does "Diff out", but I think only a spool or super tight diff might solve the "diff out", like we run on our M-05's on carpet. I think it's just a byproduct of the fwd drivetrain. My 1:1 MINI even has a bad case of it. I haven't tried adjusting droop at all, but when I added a front sway bar it killed any initial steering the car had and made it push like a bus. A stiffer rear spring would make more sense to me to keep the weight transfer to the rear less under acceleration. Plus on carpet the car has massive amounts of rear grip, which the stiffer spring would help reduce also.
My carpet setup. I started w/ Rod's setup from the Tamiya America track and made the following changes. Items not noted match Rod's setup sheet.
Front:
- Oil = kit 400 (Didn't know what oil I had on hand is comparable to Tamiya 600 so I didn't change it)
- No spacer under inner camber link mount. Raising front roll center.
- Rocker arm spacer = 2mm
- Droop 4mm+/-
Rear:
- No spacer under inner camber link mount. Raising rear roll center.
- Stabilizer Yellow (Hard). Reduced the massive amount of rear traction I had and helped steering response.
- Droop 4mm +/-
Other items:
- Wheelbase = Medium
- Motor = Losi 17.5 w/ timing ring advanced as far as possible.
- Gearing = 81/53
- Radio = DX3R
- Esc = Tekin RS V208 spec mode
- Servo = Futaba S9550 Low Profile
- Batt = Orion Carbon 5000
- Tires = HPI X-Patterns on 0mm offset wheels
- Body & Wing = Tamiya Lancer EVO IV
My carpet setup. I started w/ Rod's setup from the Tamiya America track and made the following changes. Items not noted match Rod's setup sheet.
Front:
- Oil = kit 400 (Didn't know what oil I had on hand is comparable to Tamiya 600 so I didn't change it)
- No spacer under inner camber link mount. Raising front roll center.
- Rocker arm spacer = 2mm
- Droop 4mm+/-
Rear:
- No spacer under inner camber link mount. Raising rear roll center.
- Stabilizer Yellow (Hard). Reduced the massive amount of rear traction I had and helped steering response.
- Droop 4mm +/-
Other items:
- Wheelbase = Medium
- Motor = Losi 17.5 w/ timing ring advanced as far as possible.
- Gearing = 81/53
- Radio = DX3R
- Esc = Tekin RS V208 spec mode
- Servo = Futaba S9550 Low Profile
- Batt = Orion Carbon 5000
- Tires = HPI X-Patterns on 0mm offset wheels
- Body & Wing = Tamiya Lancer EVO IV