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Trips 08-23-2002 06:52 AM

We do sauce them every round, but if they're not cleaned between rounds the grip gets higher and higher each round. Consistency is key, you want the tires to feel the same every run, or else your car that TQ'd in the second or third round might be pig slow in the main.

Trips

Dragon Slayer 08-23-2002 07:37 AM

Stika525...I wish i had a digital camera....I would show you how i modified my 12LW.....the 12L3 chassis is a little different than the LW, but i think it would still work...its basically the same system as the CRC , but it uses a graphite cross brace instead of a rubbber band..i'll try to give you a visual in words......1st. find the thick web that will sit between the cells..drill a hole about (for a 4-40 screw)3/16 of an inch in from the edge of the chassis(dead center on the thick web)you will need 2 skinny body post....(older assoc. style works well)...attach post to new holes(you may have to remove some material from the side of the post where the battery bar will touch)now you will neeed a small piece of graphite or f-glass(approx 3/8" by 5-1/4")(this will be the cross brace)drill holes in the end of the brace,so it will fit over the post......insert cells in chassis,slide brace across cells and over posts...push down brace and mark post for a hole....the hole is for a body clip that will hold the brace......"WALLA"...I have this on my 12LW and it has worked flawlessly...now, all you have to do, is remove 2 body clips pop off the brace and BAM...cells are out....no more tape...hope you get an idea of what i'm talking about....It would be great if Associated would modify the chassis for this...just a little dimple like the 12LW used to have for the body post....Associated...just remember where ya' got the idea from.....K

newracer 08-23-2002 10:11 AM

my wording in the last post was not very good. I was trying to say what if you DON'T sauce them every round, say like every other round? Or no sauce at all?

Trips 08-23-2002 04:06 PM

Well, I've never tried it, but I'd imagine that saucing every other round would be inconsistent as well, the rounds where you did sauce it would feel one way, the rounds where you didn't it would feel different.

This really only applies to carpet tracks that have a groove built up (tracks where the layout doesn't change often or that see a lot of use between layout changes) and get heavy groove built up. In many cases the tires come off the track feeling very sticky and gummy from picking up the buldup during the run. Cleaning between rounds or running a different set of tires each round are the only ways I know to maintain consistent handling throughout the race day.

Trips

Stevie 08-23-2002 06:17 PM

I ONCE WENT TO A CARPET TRACK CLUB THAT DID NOT ALLOW TYRE Additive.never again!the car was impossable to drive,has soon has i put the power on it would step out side ways,i started cleaning my tyres with lighter fluid after every meeting & my tyres last a lot longer than before.i caint really aford to do them with motor spray/unless its a two day event.(thanks to darnold for the advice).
im a bit peed of-here in the uk they (BRCA) Are not allowing the 3300 batterys until next April :cry:
laterz
steve

darnold 08-24-2002 09:07 AM

Stevie- ROAR hasn't made them legal here yet either as far as i know. The USTC has made them legal for the U.S. Triple Crown Series (Oktoberfast, Cleveland Indoor Champs, January Jam, Snowbirds, and Roar Carpet Nationals). By the time of the Roar Carpet Nat's(March) we assume they will be legal if not before.

Trips- Ran for Pro-Match, the guy is really nice and from what i could tell he was honest also.

Haven't bought any TRC Greys yet so i can't comment on how soft they are compared to last racing season. Wow, in another 4 weeks the new indoor racing season will be upon us for the U.S., time sure flies. BTW, Happy Birthday RC Tech.

darnold 08-24-2002 09:10 AM

Ohh boy: Drop the "yet". And when/if you see "there" instead of "their" or "are" instead of "our" or "where" instead of "wear" you know what i mean. Off to breakfast, no that would be lunch, no that would be brunch...you know what i mean guys. LOL!!!

davidl 08-25-2002 05:19 AM

Dave, aren't you on the board for the USTC? Please email me at [email protected]

bloody knife 08-26-2002 07:06 PM

i have a bloody knife and im looking for a new car any suggestions!!

dway100 08-26-2002 07:29 PM

Does anyone run the inline axles with the Associated front end? What changes can I expect in the handling if I change to them? I know the wheelbase will be extended by about 1/4", but are there any andvantages/disadvantages to running them?

Boomer 08-26-2002 07:53 PM

your steering will get a lot more agressive.

Stika525 08-26-2002 08:52 PM

I second that. More steering.

MarkA 08-26-2002 08:56 PM

To be even more specific, you gain a lot of turn-in steering, but only a bit of steering otherwise. IMO, they make the car feel “wandery” in high-speed situations (sweepers, long straights) as well.

Dave S 08-27-2002 09:56 PM

Hey all,

Sorry for not posting for so long... lots of stuff to do.

Darnold-Thank you for all the setup advice for my Trinity. I haven't incorporated all of the changes you have suggested yet, but I have been getting used to it and it is such a better car than my 12L3. I feel more confident driving it fast. My lap times have gotten better by at least a second, and I am moving more now towards racing rather than getting out of the way. Petenis and I both signed up for Octoberfast, are you planning on making the trek up here? Hope to see you.

That goes for everyone! Anyone whom is near Minnesota and races should check it out! It is a great chance to see lots of great racing, rub elbows( and the lucky ones-Lexan ) with the professional drivers/ factory backed guys.

How has everyone's racing been going? Petenis and I fought our cars and lost last weekend, and unfortunately, lost. I dumped early, and Petenis' car was not handling quite as well as he had hoped. We still had fun, but it would be nice to at least finish a race. I blew the endbell off of my 11X2 Core(CRAP!) by stepping out the rear end while trying to get around a lapper. I ran out of funds and grey rears, so I used green rears and didn't sauce them as long as I should have, and they scrub off a lot of speed in corners. I am going to start stocking up on tires and bonus pieces for the 'ol Trinity. Does anyone know of where I can order new chassis for my 2002 switchblade? My local hobby shop/tracks suppliers don't carry switchblade stuff. I delaminated the front in a wicked googlie with a steel pole. I have since put a band-aid on it but I would like at least a couple in the pit box if the untimely demise of my present chassis happens. Any help would be awesome. I am thinking that I will just have to bite the bullet and call Trinity directly.

Wheel on!
Dave

Kevin K 08-28-2002 06:31 PM

Now lets all wish Dave "Tigger" Arnold a happy b-day;)

Dave S....Im sure that Tigger will be going to the race well thats what he said last time I saw him. I will be going as will a bunch of guys from down here in IL. The Octoberfast race is an awsome race and you cant find much better track then what they have. I would check with Stormer Hobbies on that chassis they have alot of parts and the website is easy to get around.


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