Beat me to it too! I was waiting to see if I could come in third and get me a few race bucks. Guess I waited too long!

Too many problems with the 12lw (diff still coming apart, traction rolling in the corners). Guess I'll have to wait for the next shipment, try out the front end you gave me until then. Good luck with the car. Let us know how it drives.

It will get built and put on the track probably tomorrow... If you are out next week I will let you drive it.. ;)

Handling questions
 

When going from stock to Modified on carpet-its customary to soften up the car a bit.

When you soften-up the center shock spring and lighten the oil this should slow weight transfer to front giveing an easier to drive car and also more steering later in corner?


I ran mod this weekend and tried going stiffer and softer and I think I overdid it both ways-so didnt really come away with a great balance in handling.

When I ran a stiff center spring and heavy oil I had lost a lot of steering in middle of corner. When I went really soft spring and oil-I found car to be very inconsistent and even squirelly coming out of corners. I think it might have been so soft it was bottoming out.

Just curious. WOluld someone enlighten me?
Ray

Ray , what I have found
 

The smoother the track and better the traction, the stiffer the center shock can be.

Soft center shock = more rear traction and more low speed steering. Better in the bumpy sections.

Firmer center shock means more high speed steering and more ON power steering.

There is a balance point that you have to find. I almost always use 30 wt in the center shock, although many will argue with me. I have seen posts of people using as high as 60.

I find setting the droop so the rear pod just hangs down 1 mm to 1.5 mm and letting the car just settle into its suspension no matter how stiff the center spring is, makes the car drive the easiest and most consistant. This leaves the chasis levil under laoded conditions with out the body on.

I also think stiff spring with heavy oil defeats the purpose. I want the car to react fast to what is happening with lighter (30) oil.

Hope I helped
David Root

ONLY MY opinion. I only run STOCK.

12L4 & 3
 

I just got a 12L4 and I have a question as the instructions doesn't say anything... does anything fluid or grease wise go between the dampner discs?

thanks!

I think Blackstock uses trinity red stuff between the pad and plate.

Its been a long time since I ran with damper discs-but I do know less is more-so have no excess grease as it WILL attract dirt under the plate over time. Just enough to get a smooth damped feel-the wipe off any grease that gets pushed out around egde of disc.

David Root-thanks. I think I went too far to extremes both times and thts why I never got the balance I wanted. I went from Red with 30 wt to Black Wolfe with 80 wt. to silver with 30 wt. IT might have been best to run Blue with 30 wt.


Ray

Re: 12L4 & 3
 

I've kinda settled on using "green slime" like you use on shock O rings. It's seems to be the right consisance and doesn't change over an 8 minute run. Just a very THIN film is all it takes. Like ray said, less is more.

Re: Re: 12L4 & 3
 

Thanks!

HEY HOW MUCH ARE THE NEW 12L4 KITS SELLING FOR? I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM ANYWHERE YET. WHO'S GOT EM?

My LHS sells them for $179...

Hey Peter, check your PM...

Peter, YGPM...

will these wheels fit the car ?????????

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...EBWN%3AIT&rd=1

What are the major differences between the L3 and 4 ??

what are the spur and pinion size that you guys use for medium sized track with mvp?

i am gonna try 96 and 31 with tires that are a little worn