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Old 06-09-2016 | 02:21 AM
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I use TQ 16 to the motor and TQ 1000 to the battery
Same here, can't go wrong with that combo.
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Old 06-11-2016 | 06:08 PM
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It appears as though BRCA has made 1/12th modified a 6.5 blinky class.
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Old 06-11-2016 | 08:52 PM
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Seconded by Spashett, no less. Mobers wants EFRA to adopt.

It's overdue.
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Old 06-11-2016 | 10:33 PM
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What I read is that the motor wind will be caped at 6.5, but I don't see any blinky rule.
Anyway IFMAR will stay at open mod. I like to believe that this step will bring more people
to run 1/12 mod, but on the other hand why these people not running now the 6.5 motors in 1/12 mod?
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Old 06-11-2016 | 10:38 PM
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This is a really great idea if it actually goes through! I think this would make a lot of people actually jump up to mod.
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Old 06-11-2016 | 11:01 PM
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I can see why this would be proposed but I don't think it will have the intended effect of increasing modified turnout. A tested, tuned 6.5 turn open ESC setup would still be screaming fast, so fast that I would argue it would fall under the statement "beyond the capabilities of all but the very elite to be able to control and race." Add to that how all of the sudden your ESC choice, software choice, motor, battery, and all of the other factors that you don't worry about become relevant to modified racing again, instead of picking a color and go.

Not my problem though, I live in America.
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Old 06-12-2016 | 08:44 AM
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It will be easier to control than the current mode of 3.5T open esc

Not sure 6.5 open esc will draw more entries though, it's still too bloody fast for most drivers

Having said that. the BRCA crew currently have the strongest contingent of 1/12 racers in the western world

So I support this fully, and would be up to give it a go
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Old 06-12-2016 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by silden
What I read is that the motor wind will be caped at 6.5, but I don't see any blinky rule.
Anyway IFMAR will stay at open mod. I like to believe that this step will bring more people
to run 1/12 mod, but on the other hand why these people not running now the 6.5 motors in 1/12 mod?
Originally Posted by PutAwayWet
Seconded by Spashett, no less. Mobers wants EFRA to adopt.

It's overdue.
Wouldn't it be better to limit the Capacity of the batteries? Bring back some of the strategy to actually be able to finish a 8 minute run? And would also limit the speed as you only have so much juice to pump into the motor.
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Old 06-12-2016 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RcHammer
Wouldn't it be better to limit the Capacity of the batteries? Bring back some of the strategy to actually be able to finish a 8 minute run? And would also limit the speed as you only have so much juice to pump into the motor.
Short of hand out packs, not sure how this can be enforced?
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Old 06-12-2016 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by silden
What I read is that the motor wind will be caped at 6.5, but I don't see any blinky rule.
Anyway IFMAR will stay at open mod. I like to believe that this step will bring more people
to run 1/12 mod, but on the other hand why these people not running now the 6.5 motors in 1/12 mod?
Originally Posted by PutAwayWet
Seconded by Spashett, no less. Mobers wants EFRA to adopt.

It's overdue.
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Short of hand out packs, not sure how this can be enforced?
I would think the labeling on the battery would be a dead give away. tamper evident case tape from the manufacture where the roar label currently is. Granted if someone is determined to cheat they will. Could be as simple as Cycling the battery after a suspicious or record setting run and seeing how many mah it takes to Discharge/charge. obviously too much hassle for club level racing. However for higher levels of competition Cars can be "teched" its not hard to imaging if you had a 4400mah battery and put 4800mah into it after a 8 minute run. Maybe there had been some tampering. and I'm sure you could also argue that a 7000mah battery shoved in a 4400mah case would provide a better voltage through a run. But again, can be cycled after a run to determine the battery capacity.
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Old 06-12-2016 | 07:42 PM
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I loved the old days of gearing for time but, to do that now days would be a death nail for 1/12th.

Most 1s batteries sold today are 7000 to 8000 mah rated. A required 4200 to 4400 mah battery for one class only wouldn't go over well with racers or manufactures .

A gear for time race would create a battery war, battery of the week, cheating . It's just not worth it.

I don't miss the need for 5 awesome, fresh, battery packs for a race day or the need to rebuild your motor every run.

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Old 06-12-2016 | 08:21 PM
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12 minute races
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Old 06-12-2016 | 10:27 PM
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Has anyone tried the new McAllister 12th scale body? Is it for 17.5, 13.5, etc.? Low grip or high?
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Old 06-13-2016 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by silden
What I read is that the motor wind will be caped at 6.5, but I don't see any blinky rule.
Anyway IFMAR will stay at open mod. I like to believe that this step will bring more people
to run 1/12 mod, but on the other hand why these people not running now the 6.5 motors in 1/12 mod?
Originally Posted by DesertRat
I can see why this would be proposed but I don't think it will have the intended effect of increasing modified turnout. A tested, tuned 6.5 turn open ESC setup would still be screaming fast, so fast that I would argue it would fall under the statement "beyond the capabilities of all but the very elite to be able to control and race." Add to that how all of the sudden your ESC choice, software choice, motor, battery, and all of the other factors that you don't worry about become relevant to modified racing again, instead of picking a color and go.

Not my problem though, I live in America.
The fact that 'Blinky' wasn't spec'd was a mistake, an amendment was made, so it will be 6.5 blinky

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Old 06-13-2016 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RcHammer
I would think the labeling on the battery would be a dead give away. tamper evident case tape from the manufacture where the roar label currently is. Granted if someone is determined to cheat they will. Could be as simple as Cycling the battery after a suspicious or record setting run and seeing how many mah it takes to Discharge/charge. obviously too much hassle for club level racing. However for higher levels of competition Cars can be "teched" its not hard to imaging if you had a 4400mah battery and put 4800mah into it after a 8 minute run. Maybe there had been some tampering. and I'm sure you could also argue that a 7000mah battery shoved in a 4400mah case would provide a better voltage through a run. But again, can be cycled after a run to determine the battery capacity.
As it stands now, we are essentially approving a plastic box with a sticker on it. No-one can tell exactly what the plastic box contains.
(I know VTA limit the lipo capacity, but to be honest that is a waste of time as the over a certain capacity the start to weigh too much and unbalance the car)
At the least the motor is easier to check if there are any doubts
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