:lol: Yeah, the Novak booster is one of the oddest shaped/packaged RC electronics items I've dealt with in a long time.

The other booster, available from TQ and a host of others with various connections, doodads and heat shrink colors, is really easy to tuck on a chassis though. :nod:

Can you use Dif oil in damper tubes? I was just wondering if anyone has tried this. I have ofna and Losi Dif lube 10,000, 20,000 and 30,000 wt

Yes you can, it's fairly common practice.

What is considered a good 17.5 12th scale body?
Thanks and God Bless

I like the AMR from protoform. But my carpet track is next to an off-road track that kicks up some dust
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I take the easy way out, I just look for a 0.030" thick body instead of the lightweight bodies. They seem to take the hits better.

Black Art/CRC Audi R8C, Parma Speed8. Excellent downforce with minimal drag....

The Black Art/Crc Bomb'R, Protoform AMr, and Parma EE-1 seem better suited to Mod racing, as they offer more downforce overall than the two mentioned.

As for bodies that do Mod and 17.5 well, The Parma Speed8 HD seems to fit the bill well......

Just thought I'd post a pic of my Corally car with the current theme of length wise battery mounting. Gonna give it a run this friday:

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...110928_002.jpg

Cheers!

Your steering links look like your ackerman will result in painful handling (just me though, I like less ackerman than some)

Interesting...
 

I found this and thought is it true that TC has killed turn out at races?

I'm actually interested in TC in the future as to learn more about Sedans but this short article has some interesting points that the TC has made rc enthusiasts bummed out because of how complex they are and because of the TC phenomenon 12th got killed or has less interest and so forth thus when people go to see 12th it isn't there cause TC took over hence this article is kinda true through a certain perspective

Curious what people think and I will try my hardest to generate interest at my local track for 12th

What puts off some Taxi racers is the foam tires we have, and dealing with a truer and chunking.

That, and the myth that the lumbering Cadillacs are somehow easier to drive :lol:

We've got nearly 400 entries at iic next week.
On Road Racing is alive and well.

Alas, I don't think that is a myth in most club racing cases. The 4wd TCs w/ front spools are much easier to drive on low traction parking lot surfaces.

On high bite carpet, it is debateable though.


Here is my take on it, as someone who is getting back into the hobby after a 7 year hiatus.

I raced gas onroad competitively from ~96-04. Both 1/10th 2wd(235mm) and 1/10th 4wd sedan(200mm). I was racing gas sedan right when it started "breaking" onto the national scene. And I was at the Roar Nats both years when we had over 140 entries in that class alone(with bump ups, we had thru a Q main one year!).

Im used to the plethora of adjustments that come with touring cars. When I got back in to RC about 3 months ago, I did a lot of research beforehand. Since I didn't have a pit guy any longer, I wanted to get into electric. Naturally a TC was an obvious choice since I had plenty of experience with gas TC... and it was pretty much the only class we consistently have a lot of entries in, week in and week out, at my local track.

After building a TC6 and practicing and racing for a few weekends, there are a few things that surprise me about this class.

1) Yes, the complexity and number of adjustments. You really have to be familliar with vehicle dynamics to know exactly how roll center changes and roll couple distances affect car handling thru the various stages of a corner. Gone are the days of caster/camber/toe/ride height being the only adjustments outside of the shocks... We have A LOT to work with nowadays. Which is great, especially for those who like to tinker and test. But I imagine it can be very overwhelming for newcomers.

2) Cost. These cars were never dirt cheap... but they certainly seem to be much more expensive than I remember. 10 years ago, a $500 TC kit was unheard of. Now, it seems to be the norm outside of one or two exceptions.

3) Maintentance. Obviously, from racing gas onroad I am used to a fair amount of maintenance. But between chassis tweak needing to be reset every round, slop developing in the suspension parts and hub bearings, and things getting out of alignment... these cars require a good deal of maintenance to keep them in tip-top condition. Maintenance requires time and money.

4) Ease of operation. I don't remember my gas TCs being this easy to drive. Sure I have a fair amount of rust after not holding a tx for over 5 years... but within a few battery packs, most of it was coming back to me. Box stock, the TC6 was very easy to drive. Sure, the car wasn't dialed in and turning lap record times... but it was easy to drive. And the easier a car is to drive, the more confidence it inspires.


I used to race 1/12 on and off back in the day too... And if we had a consistent turnout and made the class every week, I would have picked up a 1/12 and not the TC6. As it sits now, I have purchased a used RC12R5.1 and will be prepping it to run locally when we have enough guys. When I opened the box, I immediately smiled ear to ear, as I was reminded of how simple 1/12 cars are... and how much cheaper they are to run/maintain.

Onroad seems to be picking up again in popularity. And now that the speed control wars seem to be over, and now that we have established a stable "stock" class, TC seems to be attracting more people again. But looking at the entries to the big carpet races(IIC for instance), 1/12th is not far behind TC. Especially in the stock classes... almost 50 entries for 17.5 blinky 1/12th is fantastic!

I do not, however, think TC is killing 1/12th. I think the two classes go hand in hand. One emphasizes complex chassis setup and motor selection/gearing/tuning, and the other emphasizes tire selection and smoothness/clean driving. The two classes are different, that is all there is to it. TC has more scale looks and is easier to throw down on a dusty parking lot track with a boxstock setup and turn quick laps.

And given that almost ALL the major manufacturers are producing competitive 1/12 kits makes it even easier to enter the class. The problem I see with 1/12 is the patience it takes to get acquainted with the class. Between driving a 2wd car and the differences in the setup, there is a relatively steep learning curve associated with 1/12th scale. That is not to say that newbies won't fair well in the class... but one shouldnt expect to drop the car on the track with the kit setup and some random tires and drive it like a 4wd TC.

This was in reference to indoor racing.

Taxis are better for dusty conditions, no argument there.

17.5 blinky 12th scale goes where you point it, when you point it.
It's almost to easy :nod:

It's like watching paint dry, grass grow, or fleas fall off a dog.

lol...Yea not sure I want to race 17.5 in 12th. One of the great things about 12th mod is it's hella fast.

I like gearing up 1 tooth over what everyone else is geared for a little "fly by" on the straight

What I really want is to see is every 12th car out their in the A main and they are all slicing and dicing

Thanks for your comments JamesL_71 and RBF