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The learning curve for 1/12 is kinda steep, especially if the new guys have less-than-ideal equipment. We have had two guys get used 1/12 cars (which were well setup) and just drop them on the track, thinking that they could wheel it and probably had visions of beating up on the regulars, but obviously couldn't. They are both good offroad racers, but with our fast crew dicing it up for TQ I think they got the wrong impression being lapped by somebody every 15 seconds on average. It happened to me the first few times I tried this, and I only got good at it after I got the correct tires and put a sane setup on the car, but I did a lot of losing before I did any winning.
Now that I think about it, I haven't won in over a month, I got second in the A main four weeks in a row.:lol: Its okay though, the guys I lost to were pretty good. My response to this may have been overkill: I bought a whole new car. |
Originally Posted by DesertRat
(Post 9723538)
The learning curve for 1/12 is kinda steep, especially if the new guys have less-than-ideal equipment. We have had two guys get used 1/12 cars (which were well setup) and just drop them on the track, thinking that they could wheel it and probably had visions of beating up on the regulars, but obviously couldn't. They are both good offroad racers, but with our fast crew dicing it up for TQ I think they got the wrong impression being lapped by somebody every 15 seconds on average. It happened to me the first few times I tried this, and I only got good at it after I got the correct tires and put a sane setup on the car, but I did a lot of losing before I did any winning.
Now that I think about it, I haven't won in over a month, I got second in the A main four weeks in a row.:lol: Its okay though, the guys I lost to were pretty good. My response to this may have been overkill: I bought a whole new car. I like .018 but most everyone has .020 on their cars Caster is always around 5 degrees and camber is just to wear tires even I mean set the side and top springs and your kinda done humbly speaking lol p.s. You should take some pics of your next race of the cars and drivers I had a lot of fun racing at the carpet track in tucson and I still can't remember the name of the really tall old guy that was totally into 12th there |
Originally Posted by Buckaroo
(Post 9723474)
It's like watching paint dry, grass grow, or fleas fall off a dog.
But last week we had a pretty thrilling race where 3 of us were within a few millimeters for 8 mins, true side by side racing, and the crowd loved every min of it ! I'm so used to having the rip to make a pass stick in boosted, blinky is a lot of waiting and hoping for a mistake. Fun in a different way, and a bit frustrating at times as well. I want to see if we can have a go at 13.5 blinky this winter for club racing, might be a good option for an expert 12th class. Mod is fun, but we haven't had the interest in the class I hoped for. |
Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX
(Post 9723644)
:lol: Yeah true
But last week we had a pretty thrilling race where 3 of us were within a few millimeters for 8 mins, true side by side racing, and the crowd loved every min of it ! I'm so used to having the rip to make a pass stick in boosted, blinky is a lot of waiting and hoping for a mistake. Fun in a different way, and a bit frustrating at times as well. I want to see if we can have a go at 13.5 blinky this winter for club racing, might be a good option for an expert 12th class. Mod is fun, but we haven't had the interest in the class I hoped for. Yes I like the rip too...lol That's what makes 12th awesome is that they are ridiculously fast and pretty much lap even the fastest TC cars In time I will give you some mod action to race against probably by February :sneaky: |
Originally Posted by Infinite 12th
(Post 9723663)
Do you use your LRP SXXv2 for blinky? 13.5/17.5
Yes I like the rip too...lol That's what makes 12th awesome is that they are ridiculously fast and pretty much lap even the fastest TC cars In time I will give you some mod action to race against probably by February :sneaky: Installed Blinky setup in the new 5.2 I think that was the 2nd blinky race I have run this year at TQ :lol: But it was kind of fun. |
I have a nice 1/12th scale custom airbrushed body in the consignment case at West Coast. I just dropped the price ten bucks its a naoto custom... looks sweet trying to get some gas money for my trip to the grand canyon before my wife goes back to work.
Check it out the next time you are there. Thanks notcho |
I've been having fun trying to learn how to drive 1/12 13.5. And I've been getting my butt kicked every week but I know once I get it down packed I'll see some podium.
I have learned that not all 13.5's are the same. I'm using a Losi 13.5 with a TEKIN RS I also learned that wire placement is very very important stay away from 12 gauge even wet noodle deans you can really tweak your setup badly. I'm waiting on a order from TQ now. |
12 gauge in a 1/12 is overkill.
I like using 16 or 18 gauge and TQ's sensor cable. |
Originally Posted by InspGadgt
(Post 9682267)
I may be wrong on this but...my understanding it is to get even dampening left and right. With a single damper to get the same angle on the damper on both the left and right of the pod it would have to be attached to the center of the pod but that throws the weight off on the car unless you do something like what 3Racing did on their F109 which attaches the center of the damper to the center of the pod. If you attach a damper off-set to one side so that the damper can be centered then the arc in which the pod end of the damper moves is different from left to right. Using 2 damper tubes instead takes a lot of geometry out of trying to figure out where to mount the damper.
Originally Posted by AreCee
(Post 9682365)
So they were using something like diff-lock then? What were the tube guys using on their tubes? 100K? How heavy were the springs they were using?
I use 20wt on most tracks and if the grip gets real high I may use 40wt but so far I have not found a track with grip that high. However, I race my AE in 17.5 open boost class so maybe a 4.5 puts higher side loads on the chassis. I don't know. Sometimes the roll rate is mistaken for the rear when it is the front that is the culprit. If you want less roll, stiffen up the side springs, not the oil. Oil and springs must be matched,otherwise the car will not snap out of turns straight, and will be lazy in chicanes. Side dampers don't suffer from this problem, and it why they are coming back into fashion with various chassis alternatives available. However, they need more work and they are less consistent from one rebuild to the other for the average driver. HTH :) |
Speaking of wiring...
It seems 16g is the most common wire for 17.5 blinky 12th, both for the motor and the battery wires. Does 16g work fine for 13.5 boost? Ive seen some setups that have 16g on the motor and what looks to be 13 or 14g for the batt? Will 16g all around cut it? |
16g wire is fine for 13.5 boost.
I've seen some guys use 16g for the battery wires also, but I prefer 14 or 13g wire there, just makes me feel better. :smile: |
Originally Posted by Infinite 12th
(Post 9723601)
Maybe driving 12th might take getting used to for new people but the cars are just way easier to deal with than 2wd off road or TC and it is not uncommon for a certain 12th setup to work at many tracks
I like .018 but most everyone has .020 on their cars Caster is always around 5 degrees and camber is just to wear tires even I mean set the side and top springs and your kinda done humbly speaking lol p.s. You should take some pics of your next race of the cars and drivers I had a lot of fun racing at the carpet track in tucson and I still can't remember the name of the really tall old guy that was totally into 12th there |
Originally Posted by JamesL_71
(Post 9724127)
Speaking of wiring...
It seems 16g is the most common wire for 17.5 blinky 12th, both for the motor and the battery wires. Does 16g work fine for 13.5 boost? Ive seen some setups that have 16g on the motor and what looks to be 13 or 14g for the batt? Will 16g all around cut it? |
Hmmm... Thanks. So what do you guys run for 13.5 boost? 16g motor/13-14g batt?
Also, does anyone know the offset of the TRC wheels? Same as the Jacos? |
Originally Posted by Infinite 12th
(Post 9723601)
I had a lot of fun racing at the carpet track in tucson and I still can't remember the name of the really tall old guy that was totally into 12th there |
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