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Old 11-09-2010 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowerOne
In a class where tenths count because you're losing them for eight minutes, not five, very slight isn't good enough. A free, but slip-free diff is an essential component of a good handling 12th car.

Thrust races make the diff stiff and 'lazy'. There is nothing wrong with the ballrace used as a thrust race providing the diff is glass smooth and has absolutely no slip at all. They last much longer if you have a belleville washer between the nut and the thrust cone, as this takes the side knocks when you hit the boards.

I have run Corally thrust races for ages, and couldn't believe the improvement in turn in and power out from corners when I switched back to a ballrace. The ballrace must be very clean - no grease or oil - and then have one drop of synthetic oil in it to help with friction on the cage. Any grease or thick oil and the ballrace will slip, meaning you have to do the diff up tighter.

Here's the definitive diff-building advice from the man himself - Dave Irrgang.

http://www.teamirsrc.com/techtips.html

One last tip - make sure to use a steel ballrace, and not a ceramic one. The ceramic ones have to be done up tighter as they slip more due to the ceramic coating. HTH
what do you mean by ball race? i presume thrust race means a thrust bearing (like splapmaster), but 'ball race' means what? are you referring to the thrust bearing with races replaced with flat washers?
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Old 11-09-2010 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by avs
what do you mean by ball race? i presume thrust race means a thrust bearing (like splapmaster), but 'ball race' means what? are you referring to the thrust bearing with races replaced with flat washers?
He means using the ball bearing in the outer part of the hub as the thrust, the way most of the cars like 12R5 etc come. He's just hard to understand sometimes because he speaks the Queen's english
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Old 11-09-2010 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by odpurple
He means using the ball bearing in the outer part of the hub as the thrust, the way most of the cars like 12R5 etc come. He's just hard to understand sometimes because he speaks the Queen's english
ah-so! thank you for translating, Egnlish is my second language.
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Old 11-09-2010 | 08:49 PM
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Around what are these worth? Interested in one just don't want to pay more then there worth.

Here's a link to the one Im looking at
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=308384
I looked at that car for my old school collection. Its an old outdated car, and will not fit a brick style lipo easily. $50 max is the most I would pay, and just for comparison there was a much newer CEFX t-bar car(also with servo) on that site that only sold for $50 just the other day. If your looking to run the car I would look for a newer lipo frendly car.
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Old 11-09-2010 | 10:26 PM
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Default 2 questions.

I have the use of an original AMBrc DP transponder for an upcoming meeting.

However, I've just noticed there are products available to boost the power to the transponder for 4 cell set-ups.

Has anybody ever had any problems with this transponder in a 4 cell car?

Also, if anybody knows if an LRP ICS Digital is ok to do 4 cell modified for 8 minutes that would be a help.
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Old 11-10-2010 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by odpurple
He means using the ball bearing in the outer part of the hub as the thrust, the way most of the cars like 12R5 etc come. He's just hard to understand sometimes because he speaks the Queen's english
There's nothing wrong with the Queen's English

Though SlowerOne speaks it far more accurately than me

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Old 11-10-2010 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Radio Active
I have the use of an original AMBrc DP transponder for an upcoming meeting.

However, I've just noticed there are products available to boost the power to the transponder for 4 cell set-ups.

Has anybody ever had any problems with this transponder in a 4 cell car?

Also, if anybody knows if an LRP ICS Digital is ok to do 4 cell modified for 8 minutes that would be a help.
I have the same transponder and have had it not pick up for my last 2 laps due to the pack running low close to dump... Since then got the booster for it and never a problem again... Don't want to chance that again. Even with 1S Lipo's these days the can come close to dump in Mod.

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Old 11-10-2010 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PHI/BMI racer
I have the same transponder and have had it not pick up for my last 2 laps due to the pack running low close to dump... Since then got the booster for it and never a problem again... Don't want to chance that again. Even with 1S Lipo's these days the can come close to dump in Mod.

Great.

I just checked and neither of my local hobby shops have such a product. Less than a week before I leave for Melbourne, what to do?
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Old 11-10-2010 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Radio Active
I just checked and neither of my local hobby shops have such a product. Less than a week before I leave for Melbourne, what to do?
Run a receiver pack.
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Old 11-10-2010 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonJoe
Run a receiver pack.
Exactly!! I'm not a fan of boosters. A rx pack ensures every bit of current that your speedo can provide is sent to the drive motor.
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Old 11-10-2010 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Radio Active
Great.

I just checked and neither of my local hobby shops have such a product. Less than a week before I leave for Melbourne, what to do?
Read carefully people... Not a voltage booster for the ESC a voltage booster to the transponder... It makes sure it gets voltage when battery is running low so you don't get a missed lap... Anyway get the novak one, I been running it for 4 years still going strong.
You can order from RC-mushroom although a lot of places have it... Maybe give Novak USA a call...

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Old 11-10-2010 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PHI/BMI racer
Read carefully people... Not a voltage booster for the ESC a voltage booster to the transponder... It makes sure it gets voltage when battery is running low so you don't get a missed lap... Anyway get the novak one, I been running it for 4 years still going strong.
You can order from RC-mushroom although a lot of places have it... Maybe give Novak USA a call...

If you are concerned about low voltage to the transponder towards the end of a run, would you not also have less voltage for the servo as well? That is why most run a receiver pack, which then powers the servo and transponder, leaving all the voltage in the 1s lipo for the motor. Just seems to make more sense.

My 2 cents
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Old 11-10-2010 | 09:01 AM
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Default LiFe Rx packs

Does anybody have a good source for LiFe Rx packs? >200mAh would be good.
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Old 11-10-2010 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Grenade10
If you are concerned about low voltage to the transponder towards the end of a run, would you not also have less voltage for the servo as well? That is why most run a receiver pack, which then powers the servo and transponder, leaving all the voltage in the 1s lipo for the motor. Just seems to make more sense.

My 2 cents

Good point but not from my experience... The transponder needs less voltage then the servo so if the servo is acting up the battery is dumped big time... been there done that... the problem with the transponder is that for those last few laps when the motor is drawing so much from the battery it might draw it away from the transponder and make you miss the lap... As I mentioned happened to me before I dumped but close to it. Receiver pack or booster is personal preference and I have seen it work both ways... I prefer the booster but will be upgrading to the new LRP SXX V2 with the booster built in

Good luck

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Old 11-10-2010 | 10:32 AM
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Just a quick tire question for the 12th scale gurus on this thread! If I'm looking for more general rotation through a corner is it better to go to a softer tire on the front or a harder compound on the rear? Under what conditions would you favour one approach over the other?

Thanks in advance for your ideas!

Cheers,
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