Nice paint!!! How's that car run?? Are you running the stock plastic chassis or the upgraded C/F pieces??

Don't bother with the foam, it won't save much if anything....... Your actually very lucky, they could have snapped your axle clean off........

How do you do agianst the sedans???

Cypressmidwest and SpeedyTC3: The car does have an "L" shaped T-bar and the steering blocks are not sized for ballstuds. I suspect that the small holes are wire size and may predate the turnbuckle age. Some of the damper parts are missing, so it's hard to say if that pod wire was used. There appears to be no provision for a front body post, so the post off the "A" arms sounds about right. I'll try to post a picture, if I can remember where that digital camera went. Thanks!:nod: :D

Graphitedust: Yep Original 12L. The car originally used to Z-bends joined together with a collar with a set screw in it. Man was that ever high-tech.

The "old skool" steering blocks stll don't come predrilled for ball ends...LOL

Here goes...looks like it went. Can anyone identify this Associated car? Looking for model/year. stuff like that. Thanks Guys!

IRS 12th chassis
 

I was just wondering if anyone has run the new Irs chassis yet and what are there thoughts. It looks pretty cool, but good looking is not always fast. Also was wondering which axle setup is better and why; large diff ring or small (IRS for 12l3 or carpetknife). Thanks.

12LW! It's got the rear crossbrace, which means it's not an original L, and the batteries are spaced to far apart to be an LC or L3, plus it's missing the body mount "nipples" of the LC/L3.

The IRS axle is defently the "hook up" as i am sure DavidL would tell you, lol :D . I have been using their 12 ball yellow axle diff for the past 6 months or so, and i loved it, i literally had to rebuild it only 1/5 the amount of times that i had to rebuild my 6 ball diffs. i just picked up the new graphite axle w/ blue anno'd aluminuim on it for the nats next week (which is D ringed instead of pinned like the yellow axle, so its easier but works just as well). I know that Scotty Earnst used one at the birds and got like 5th or something in stock 12th, he also used one at the carpet nats, but was having some really really bad glitching problems and ended up running mo denton's rev. 3 for his last qual and his main. however the chassis was not causing the glitching.

thanks impactplayr,
still running the plastic chassis. the carbon pan alone is worth more than the whole car and until im much better at it i dont really want to spend too much money. the fibreglass chassis kit is not too much more than the plastic one so that might be the direction i go.I'm doing quite badly with the car at the moment. when it was a hatchback it was keeping up with the pack, winning some, losing some. now with the foam tyres, which are 50% wider than the little rubber jobbies it had when it was a hatchback its sliding all over the place. we are racing on fairly smooth bitumen and so i figure i should go with a softer tyre.
if im lucky i didnt bust my axle then maybe i should stick with a plastic t-bar? i think i'll give the carbon fibre axle a miss then!!

you are right if it had the new front end it would be the RC12LS.

It has the L t-bar not the center t-bar, that one more way to tell too.

Try a fibreglass t-bar if you can, the handling should,be more consistant, and it should be much more durable.....

If memory serves me correct the academy cars employ a steel axle, which should resist breakage, bendng could be a problem, but the bolinks cars have use steel axles for some time and they don't seem to have much problem with either........ However a fibreglass t-bar will greatly improve your acceleration......

In all honestly you could upgrade your car with an associated T-bar, Graphite Yokomo SP2001 chassis and top deck, and Associated VCS Micro shock for under $100 USD.... All this and you would have yourself one bad ride!!!

Thanks! How do you tell if it's a 12L or 12LW? What were the differences? Does anyone have a picture of this car so I can see how much of it I'm missing and what I'm looking for? Did this car use a stealth I or stealth II axel/diff? I'm going to try to complete this car with as much original stuff as I can find and put electronics on it that are appropriate for the period. If anyone had one of these cars, what electronics did you use? I've got and old Tekin receiver and speedcontrol that may be appropriate. Any info is appreciated!:nod: :D

axle
 

Hey Graphitedust, I have a complete axle and left hub for a 12lc. if it is correct for your restoration, just give me your mailing address and I will send it to you. It is brand new and has never even seen any action. LMK, Art

Muffin: Thanks! You,ve got PM.:nod: :D

12th scale question?
 

I want a car I can run outside and on carpet.Is there a car that is really competitive on both surfaces?I want a Rev3,but don't know if thats the right car for both.Let me know what you think.