davidl: Did your pm to stormperson reveal my secret identity? If not, I'm Ian Ruggles, formerly of Crossroads Raceway in Dayton OH, and now a local at Ultra Racing in Cinci during the Indoor season, and CORCAR in Columbus for the Summer months. I can generally be found at those tracks hanging around with Mike Pulfer, Mo Denton, Rob Love, and Chris Doseck.

Addict sa R/C: The six-pack conversion comes with a Chassis and the Uni-tune conversion doesn't.

David Root, CypressMidWest, thanks for the replies. Just one more question. What's the difference between the Six Pack chassis and the 12L3 chassis?

The only difference I'm sure about is the shape of the front of the chassis. The associated is has the material between the body posts milled away, and the front of the six-pack chassis doesn't.

Wonderful. :D Thanks Cypress.

Question
 

can i interchange the rear pod of an rc12L3 Oval to the rc12L3 On road, so I can use the 3 shocks from the L3-0?

does the rc12L3-Oval has a T-plate. This method might be cheaper than buying the "rug Rat conversion" from IRS?

lem 2: You can put the three sock system on the roadcourse car, but you'll run into body clearance issues with the shocks, and it really isn't worth all the added weight. Tubes are just as effective for the amount of dampening we're trying to achieve, and there far less work when it's time to rebuild. just get a CRC six-pack top plate and a set of tubes............

Or you could always get a Speedmerchant car!

Racer- www.teamcrc.com

Like I said previously the 6-pack is a 12L3 clone, so all of the breakables/parts that wear out are interchangable.......

cypressmidwest- he gave me all the gory details;) :D lol. I had wondered if you were part of team cypress, since I race at Big Boys Toys in MA (Eric Desrosiers home track) (as well as RC Madness in CT as of late for asphault) and Bruce, Scott, Jake (when he raced over the winter) and David (used to, lol) race there.

lem2: While i have not run a 6pack, I have talked to CRC drivers and they say to run without the side springs, just use the t plate and damper tubes. Mark Smyka is one of the few Team CRC drivers who runs it over the knife, however he has a "ask him" section on RC madness's forum (www.rcmadness.com) incase you have any questions (i think smyka won the birds in stock 12th).

However at the carpet nats this year i saw that Mike Dumas had dual damper tubes on his rc12l3, he also has a section on madness's site. however if you take out the disks and all that junk on on the AE car drill holes for mounting the ball studs (if there arent holes already) for damper tubes (they are not 4-40 ball studs, they are slightly smaller), and then get the l3 oval thingie (i am not sure if the roadcourse car has it) to mount the other side of the damper tubes. so that way it would be alot cheaper and you get the same thing basically.

What is the difference between the 6 pack and the carpet knife? Which one do you guys think is better. Also, should I get a red edition car or just a normal kit? What does the red edition come with that the standard car doesn't? Is the red edition much more competable (is that a word :confused: ?, haha). Thanks for the replies, they've been very helpful :D . I think that I'm going to go with either the standard 6 pack or the red edition 6 pack. Should I put CA on the edges of the CF chassis? What do you guys do? I don't want my chassis to split in half when I'm racing :rolleyes: !

Hmmm.. I bought the standard CK. I did not want aluminum screws. I am a mechanic and steel screws are fine with me. The red version has eye candy. Again doesn't make me go any faster. It also comes with premium tires. This is a good thing. Purple fronts and grey rears. The standard edition comes with green fronts and rears. The other thing on the red version is the lowered rear axle mounts. They allow you to run your tires down lower to the last little bit of foam. I don't know about that, ifyou read this forum some are for it and some against. I just keep my old tires in case I some do buy the lowered pods. I can run my tires down pretty low with out them.

I am a cheapy some times. I have no tire truer. I run them from new full size until they are junk.

LOVE that CARPET KNIFE!!!

CRC has an excellent "How to" on prepping the chassis with CA

I think I'll get the standard 6 pack with the lowered rear pod thingy. It will probably end up saving me money in the long run because I will be able to use my tires longer. Here's my question again if any ya guys missed it: What's the difference between the 6 pack and the Carpet Knife? Thanks for all the help :D ! Oh, one more question, does the 6 pack or Carpet Knife require you to use tape for holding your packs down or is there some type of strap or O-ring. I seem to remember someone saying the Carpet Knife uses an O-ring, mabey I'm just imagening. If it does us an O-ring does the 6 pack us it also?

the six pack can hold up to 6 cells in a saddle pack configuration and you must use tape. it also has a T-plate for rear suspension

http://www.teamcrc.com/Images/cars/crc/6pack/1322-1.jpg

the carpet knife only holds 4 cells and they go accross the chassis with an o-ring holding them down, no T-plate just side springs and dampner tubes

http://www.teamcrc.com/Images/cars/c...ed/1302004.jpg

Question about 12l3 pods.....asphalt track

What is affected by the pod being angled slightly downward (leading edge higher than the trailing edge)? Should the pod be exactly level with the chassis when the car is ready to run? Or should there be a slight rise or dip to the trailing edge of the chassis/leading edge of the pod?

Also: What does a small washer under the piviot ball do?

Thanks !:nod: :D

I was looking more carefully on the CRC site. It looks like the only difference between the two cars (Carpet Knife and 6 Pack) is the chassis. I'm only going to be running 4 cell and I think the Carpet Knife looks better for me. Is there a difference in wheel base between the cars? It also didn't look like the 6 pack uses a O-ring to hold down the pack, but an O-ring does hold down the pack on a Carpet Knife, another point for the CK ;) . I may go with the full hopped up red version because the lower rear axle thing cost about 45 bucks alone and then I would need new tires if I got the standard kit so that would cost me about 25-30 bucks (or do they cost more, or less?) so I would end up having to buy more things. Do either of the cars come with some form of a bumper? I haven't been able to find one in any pics but mabey they just didn't show it. If they don't come with one does any company make one? What do ya know?? I just answered a bunch of my own questions :rolleyes: :nod: ! But I still have some questions that I don't know. Thanks!