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odpurple 04-05-2007 08:44 PM

OK here's one, I see that at the Euros the top like 30 cars ran brushless. It would seem that they figured something out that I haven't, because I still don't like the power curve on the brushless as much as brushed. I seem to remember something about a 12 turn limit on brushed motors in Europe, if that is true and still in place that could sure explain the popularity of the bl :cool:
Anybody know :confused:

wallyedmonds 04-05-2007 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by odpurple
OK here's one, I see that at the Euros the top like 30 cars ran brushless. It would seem that they figured something out that I haven't, because I still don't like the power curve on the brushless as much as brushed. I seem to remember something about a 12 turn limit on brushed motors in Europe, if that is true and still in place that could sure explain the popularity of the bl :cool:
Anybody know :confused:

i think alot of the Euros use systems with no sen wire in them
and different motors
made by company's that have been doing brushless for a long time.

odpurple 04-05-2007 09:18 PM

My question is really about the 12 turn limit. Anybody know?

wallyedmonds 04-05-2007 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by odpurple
My question is really about the 12 turn limit. Anybody know?

to be the same as

duckman996 04-05-2007 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by THE DARKSIDE
Congrats to Mike Haynes for his recent finish at the Fast Cats race in Canada this past weekend. Mike TQ'ed and finished 2nd in 1/12th scale 19Turn with his Darkside Motorsports MX2 chassis. Way to go Mike!

The car does look cool... kinda looks like a 1/12 version of the JRXS-R with the battery configeration. Makes sense though...

Vesa 04-06-2007 12:27 AM

Motor pod is designed for brushless. But like protc3 mentioned, it is very difficult to match the bulk if motors will become a little longer. In any case, its not needed to place a motor all the time when running the brushless ;)

I am using Nosram motors(same as LRP) and havent got problems in installing. No need to take screws out or anything extra.with GM /orion motors it may be needed to loosen some screws due to motors lenght.

I will add more photos of the car this weekend to the website.

Hope this helped!

radio_car_racer 04-06-2007 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by arr see car
One question, is the motor pod designed for brushed or brushless. Only asking as it seems most of the team drivers have brushless systems.


Originally Posted by protc3
to be honest,it is very difficult to make a rear pod that will accept brushless without some loosening of screws due to the squared off back and the sensor wire.

I have the FF'07 & there's no need to loosen any screws to instal the Nosram Storm & Evolution brushless motors (same as LRP/Reedy motor). Need to remove sonsor lead 1st thought as it won't go in with it plugged into the endbell

arr see car 04-06-2007 01:10 AM

The weight issue with brushless in the rear pods. Has this been looked at with this car (ripper) since most of you are running brushless. Like what slapmaster is testing with moving the pod over to help with the weight.

Cheers

Vesa 04-06-2007 02:01 AM

Balance of the car has been super in both slippery and high traction tracks with brushless motors. We havent faced any issues that would have caused any other modifications with rear design than those that are already made to make the pod more ridig. No "off-tweak" effect have been faced either.

I have been running different protos since 2002, on dozens of tracks. Me or the guys who have used my prototype cars have never had a problem with overall balance or with tweak. Compared to the car that the "edition" of the prototype was made, we have always improved a lot.

Like mentioned earlier, CR'07 (previously known as "V-Edition") and FF 07 may look the same but there are a lots of things that differ.

Its the same when you compare the hamburgers from McDonalds and Burger King just by looking them over:they look the same but you dont know what is inside :)

In 1/12 small things matter and fast cars can be made with different style of thinking. Yokomo 1/12 may look the same as aAE L4, but they have only front and parts and 4 tires that makes them look the same. Length of the car, width, weight balance and geometry all together makes the difference. Just to point out few thoughts, nothing else:)

In 1/12 there are many different concepts on market that works. This is just one of those, built on to "no-need-to-buy-option parts" concepts. Mine and andys car were totally standard from what we started. Let the results talk instead of thinking does it work :) ask Brits :)

I am very delighted to see many people are interested about the car :nod:

Vesa

MattW 04-06-2007 02:38 AM

There is no 12 turn limit on brushed. When i ran brushed at UK nationals i ran 10 turn.


Originally Posted by odpurple
My question is really about the 12 turn limit. Anybody know?


protc3 04-06-2007 03:06 AM


Originally Posted by Vesa
Motor pod is designed for brushless. But like protc3 mentioned, it is very difficult to match the bulk if motors will become a little longer. In any case, its not needed to place a motor all the time when running the brushless ;)

I am using Nosram motors(same as LRP) and havent got problems in installing. No need to take screws out or anything extra.with GM /orion motors it may be needed to loosen some screws due to motors lenght.

I will add more photos of the car this weekend to the website.

Hope this helped!

being that there really is no need to take the brushless motors out of the car,i dont see any problems with having to fiddle a little to get them in.i would much rather fiddle a little than bend pods.the car looks very nice.

protc3 04-06-2007 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by radio_car_racer
I have the FF'07 & there's no need to loosen any screws to instal the Nosram Storm & Evolution brushless motors (same as LRP/Reedy motor). Need to remove sonsor lead 1st thought as it won't go in with it plugged into the endbell

i loosen my pod screws instead of removing the sensor wire.my fingers dont work with me on getting it back in after the installation :lol: the screws are easier for me. :lol:

benoitrdv 04-06-2007 05:31 AM

Lipo receiver pack
 
Hello, this has maybe been talked before but what do I need as extra electronical device to use a LIPO receiver pack with 4 cells?
Thank you.

AdrianM 04-06-2007 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by benoitrdv
Hello, this has maybe been talked before but what do I need as extra electronical device to use a LIPO receiver pack with 4 cells?
Thank you.

You need a voltage regulator to step the voltage down from the packs 7.4v to at least 6v. Any highter and you can burn up servos and receivers....mainly the servo motors and driver boards in digital servos.

Much More Racing makes some really small regulators.

benoitrdv 04-06-2007 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by AdrianM
You need a voltage regulator to step the voltage down from the packs 7.4v to at least 6v. Any highter and you can burn up servos and receivers....mainly the servo motors and driver boards in digital servos.

Much More Racing makes some really small regulators.

Thank you for your reply I'll check the MM website for it.
Best regards


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