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GCracker 07-06-2007 10:45 AM

See Its always a good idea to post and check :) wasnt even aware that there were design differences will acquire a CRC and play a bit Thanks Steve for the feedback

Big B 07-06-2007 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by GCracker (Post 3460913)
Flame suit..........Check.............Flame proof helmet............Check..........boots...........c heck.................gloves............check...... ..

I run 1/10 TC and would like to start 1/12 pan for the winter so far I have narrowed it down to 2 kits....

CRC Gen X and Corally SP12X

Any major issues with either of these kits I should be aware of?

With the foam tires, do you have to have a tire truer or will folks tru tires for you? at least until I decide that it will be a permanent part of my racing

The Gen X is great for carpet I hear, if your local track dosent have a truer for racers to use, I am sure someone will true your tires for you for the small nominal fee of a pop or candybar :D

Big B 07-06-2007 12:01 PM

Has anyone found some velcro battery straps that will work with a 1/12th T-Bar style car?

timmay70 07-06-2007 12:27 PM

I believe they existed, I still wouldn't trust them. Cloth stretches, and hook and loop can come unfastened in a heavy enough impact (this happens even to the best drivers). At least if the tape rips, it will remain stuck to the pack for a while... Tape is not that bad once you get used to it.

InspGadgt 07-06-2007 12:49 PM

PureTech used to make them I believe...however velcro straps are generally too thick to usin in 1/12th and drag on the ground alot eventually ripping. Dan's had a cinch strap that I liked better and was more durable but still a bit thick for 1/12th.

Quante 07-06-2007 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by GCracker (Post 3460913)
Flame suit..........Check.............Flame proof helmet............Check..........boots...........c heck.................gloves............check...... ..

I run 1/10 TC and would like to start 1/12 pan for the winter so far I have narrowed it down to 2 kits....

CRC Gen X and Corally SP12X

Any major issues with either of these kits I should be aware of?

With the foam tires, do you have to have a tire truer or will folks tru tires for you? at least until I decide that it will be a permanent part of my racing

Where I drive 1/12th there's a lot of Corally's and they drive really fine... untill you hit something real hard and one of those dumb aluminum parts bend/tweak... these cost a lot of money to replace...

I personally drive GenX and I'm very happy with it, and even if I were to break a front suspension part. What do the arms cost?? 4€???

CypressMidWest 07-06-2007 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by GCracker (Post 3460945)
See Its always a good idea to post and check :) wasnt even aware that there were design differences will acquire a CRC and play a bit Thanks Steve for the feedback

The Gen. X is fabulous, parts quality is excellent and the kits a SOLID performer on track. Some club tracks have a community truer, and if they don't there's usually someone there who'll let you borrow one, or may even true a set up for you for a coke or something.

t9dragon 07-06-2007 04:38 PM

Can the Corally SP12X be converted to use BSR & Jaco wheels?

Big B 07-06-2007 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by t9dragon (Post 3461575)
Can the Corally SP12X be converted to use BSR & Jaco wheels?

If you buy th SP12X US it is already setup for US standard wheels

t9dragon 07-06-2007 07:48 PM

I meant to say, "Can the Corally SP12M be converted to use BSR & Jaco wheels?"

fast-ho-cars 07-06-2007 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by EricF (Post 3459008)
that's cool. I think later this summer I'm going to pick up a new 1/12 (bmi-db12r) and the novak gtb4 cell with the 13.5 (stock) and run that this fall.

If I like it I'll most likely also pick up a 6 cell gtb with the 10.5 (19t) and run that in my sedan.

But we'll see. I still kind of waiting to see how the whole BL motor thing is going to plato for standard motor sizes to replace/ equal stock and 19t. I know has their offers in but lrp says their motor is similar to a 23t w.t.f. Why can't they come out w/ something in the same semi establish ballpark??

E

E, if you remember when the 4300/10.5 was run in stock at HT. that's because it was originally toughted by Novak as a 27T equivilent. caused problems with the oval guys till they moved it into 19T class.

in the midwest, under BRL rules, when that motor was a ugraded rotor, larger bearing, endbell, it became faster than a 19T. once the sintered rotor was allowed 19T was dead in oval...couldn't keep up.

we haven't started running BL 13.5 in our 12th stock class yet. but we have done some closed door testing. 27T fast laps were 8.6 thru 8.9. a EX13.5 without a sintered rotor dropped right into the 7.4's. we were like...WOW. it was weird having a car geared 40/88 with 1.800 rears.
should have expected it. when our oval guys started running 13.5's, they added first 3 and later 5 laps to the track record as they figured gearing.

i have run the 23T BB spec stock motors before and would have to agree the Novak EX13.5 is closer to it than to a 27T. The Pro13.5 with sintered probably faster. the Trinity XX stock with bearings don't even hold a light to a 13.5.

Victor Vector 07-06-2007 08:24 PM

Looking for roll out on the 10.5. So far, gearing same as brushed cos the local HS don't have 35 tooth pinions. Gearing down goes slower than brushed. Not seeing the blistering speed I'd hoped for. And what's the clues to determine if the rotor is sintered or not.

Any one got the word ??

Jacko

fast-ho-cars 07-06-2007 09:05 PM

gearing BL 13.5/10.5 motors can be a challenge. PRS www.precisionracingsystems.com makes 64P pinions up to 60 teeth. they also have 76, 80, 84 and 88 spurs in 64P.

my CEFX has a longer pod which allows the use of bigger pinions than a AE style pod.

with a readily available Kimbrough 88T spur, for AE type pod space whether 3-bolt or 4-bolt top, i have found that the Kimbrough offset axle ride height adjusters will move the axle back (lengthens wheelbase slightly) enough to allow you to run 2-3 teeth more than someone not running them.

InspGadgt 07-06-2007 09:13 PM

PRS gears are awesome! I just got some recently for my 1/12th and I'm liking them very much.

Fast-ho...how do you think a current 13.5 would compare to a current 19T brushed? Our 1/12th class is stock to 19T and currently I run a 19T but am looking to possibly allow BL in the class if I can find a BL that will compare somewhere inbetween the stock and 19T.

fast-ho-cars 07-06-2007 09:38 PM

IMO, it's hard to say without testing. the latest Pro13.5 would be slower....but over 8 min might be faster due to efficiency and near no fading? i do know you can dump with a Komodo 19T which seems faster than some
12T's that i have driven. i will throw a guess out there and say that the latest Pro13.5 from Novak may be equal to a 21/22T brushed/bearing spec motor, if they made one.

awhile back Near Kansas City there is a track where they run 4300/10.5 sedan class and a 13.5/27T class. the guys that run 10.5 are pretty much on their game. they had a 13.5 driver that won stock was .2 seconds off what the top 4300/10.5 class winner. the 13.5 would have finished 2nd in the 4300/10.5 class.

BL is a different animal vs brushed motors when it comes spec classes. Mod is were they seem more equal and it comes down to driver preference to some degree.

there are a few tracks testing/running 23T brushed motors with BL 13.5, haven't read up on what their results are?


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