I guess it takes one to know one then, doesn't it? What an absolutely uncalled for bunch of crap. First Ike with his "until you break one" (show of hands who's actually SEEN one break..."what if" speculation doesn't count...and hit ANY of 'em hard enough and they'll break) and now you calling a small group of people names like you're in some junior high clique. Yeah, Number 11 made a pretty blanket statement that I'd bet Brian himself wouldn't have made, but it certainly wasn't with the intent of getting your panties in a bunch.

Brian seems like a decent guy and like a lot of the "fringe" manufacturers involved in this hobby he's not in it by any means to get rich. He's also been very honest if you read his thread about the struggles he's having coming to grips with set-up. It seems like some people throw it on the track and it works well while he's hunting around. Then again, he's pretty much a perfectionist--I'd probably be DELIGHTED with the set-ups he's questioning.

The point that was made about the best drivers being able to win with pretty much anything is SPOT on the mark. I'm quite certain Massami could wheel my 1989 RC12L past me with my "modern" wonder-car like I had square rear tire and a hung brush and I'm not TOO bad for a club racer. Kinda like Kimi Raikonnen could let me use his McLaren F-1 car and then lap me with my own Odyssey minivan.

Now my own choice for hardware isn't the MS either BUT I'm secure enough in my choice that I don't feel a need to tear it or any of the other cars down. The simple fact is you'd have to look MIGHTY hard to find a bad car in the lot and a decent driver can win with any of them. If it's not your cup-o-noodles that's cool too...

Now if I could just master that "decent driver" part.

Scottrik

Hey od,

Got the Rev 4 running. Will probably start using it this Saturday.

Yeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaa!

Boy I guess you told me. Well you asked the question. I have seen one break and the guy was a very good driver. Look I just asked a simple question a few threads back, you did you read it? :flaming:

Hello!

I have a Matrix ESC with a brushless motor in my 1/12.

my question is:

Can I use the minipack of bateries in the reciver for supply to servo with a brushless motor??

If this is possible, I have that disconnect the red wire from ESC to reciver?

Sorry for my English!!

Thanks

Look, the Slapmaster is a very cool yet expensive car, and I'll leave it at that simply out of respect for a friend. I think there are probably no less than 5 1/12th scale cars that are capable of winning any big race. I have no loyalty to any of them and would love to own each and every current car on the market to have fun with them and try them out. The main reason why I made my comment is because Number 11s comment was just silly and wreaked of fanboism.

Guys let's put a stop to this my intention wasn't to be malicious I didn't even really say anything except buy this conversion. This is wierd and getting out of hand. Anyway let's talk about 12th scale stuff and stop the bashing.

I don't think there has been much bashing through this whole thing. Compared to most of the flame wars you find here this one has not risen above room temperature. A couple of us made a comment about HOW you posted advocating for the slapmaster car which I think is a very good car, I have one it's on my shelf right now, I may wheel it out for mod before the carpet season is over. Not everyone agrees with you and have other opinions and therefore pointed out that it would be better clearly stated as such - an opinion rather than as a fact.

The reason that this has dragged on is because there has been no closure to the debate, until that happens either it will continue or just die slowly with some sour grapes. We may be at the point where we all have to agree to disagree, this is not usually an easy thing for posters to accept here.

On the subject of 12th scale posting. Cypress, a few of us on Wednesday evening ran a setup with the tweak screws backed off on our Rev 4's in stock. I like this a lot it felt like the car was a lot less nervous and the rear of the car was felt more bolted down. I compensated but running max caster (new style front end) and more traction compound on the front. Car was great, a lap improvement for the race and .4 sec improvement for a lap. This wasn't all down to the side springs though, I worked on the front end of the car which helped a lot. Have you tried this yet with any success?

Chris

Maybe my wording was incorrect what I mean't was see above. My enthusiasm for the car got the better of me.

Thankyou, and I agree I think it is a good car, I was running it on asphalt for a while in the summer too it was very good. I would like to run it again this year but I'm gearing up for the Nationals and I will be running a rev 4 in Stock I don't think I'll have the time.

Chris

It's dealer direct, Bruce can set you up if you're trying to stock a shop, or if it's individual stuff you can also order directly through him.

My apologizes to everyone I hope you can forgive me my intentions where good I think my excitement got the better of me. My post was after another good night of racing. At last I have found a car that is consistent. My previous car I struggled one race it would be good the next it would be what the heck is going on. Anyway it has been nice to work with Brian because he has been so helpful.

We ran 1mm of gap between the side springs and links at the Indoor Champs with great success. Seemed to really help over the bumps, and let the car reall transfer weight quickly to the outside front tire, so the cars turned in really well, then once the outside spring was loaded, the car behaved just as it normally would. Bruce actually has Dumas' and Pritch's set-up on the site now, and that little trick is listed in their set-ups.

I'm hoping to make it out to Stockton for the Nats this spring, I wanna get the chance to race with you left coast guys. You all seem to be really great guys with a good bit of knowledge, so obviously I'd like to meet the 12th scale gang out that way.

It's cool! I too have let enthusiasm for my chassis cloud the wording of many of my posts in the past, so it's entirely understandable.

:lol: :lol: You admitted on a public forum that you dirve a minivan :p

Now that's funny. I've made to my mid 30's with 2 kids, so far no minivan :p

E.

That's what happens when you're comfortable with who you are. Keep at it--you'll get there.

Plus...guess what car EVERYBODY wants to take when we go on a racin' road trip? That's right. Once you've owned one you'll never want to be without one. I know I won't, and I've never had kids and am too old to start now.

Scottrik