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mlight13 05-18-2010 03:37 PM

I hope I don't get banned for mentioning something, but I currently have 422 firmware from SP now and I am confused about one of the settings, the AMTS. The HW and SP 422 firmware seems identical except for the motor timing (AMTS). The values for the older SP firmware go from 0-26.25. Is it still the same or is it the same as the new HW firmware which goes from 0-21? For a 17.5 motor, HW recommends that I use 21* AMTS where as SP recommends 26.25* from their setup guide. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance...

skypilot 05-18-2010 04:15 PM

I'm not sure what your asking, so I'll rephase it so it makes more sense to me,

"I'm using speedpassion version 422 software, pause, when programing my ESC should I use the directions from Speedpassion or from Hobbywing?"

Is that what your asking? If so, I would go with the SP directions

mlight13 05-18-2010 07:15 PM

That is kind of what I was asking. I just figured since there was a lot of debate between the similarity of SP and HW ESC's and firmware, I just thought I would ask if the AMTS settings changed with the new SP firmware as they did with the HW firmware. The HW 422 firmware used to be 0-26.25 degrees and now it is 0-21 degrees. I was curious if the SP firmware made the same change as there is no documentation with the new firmware other than the recommended numerical values (not actual values). If this is still confusing, please disregard.

skypilot 05-18-2010 07:26 PM

sp did not change, timing is, 0. 3.75, 7.50, 11.25, 15.00, 18.75, 22.50, 26.25

hope that helps.

:tire::D

mlight13 05-18-2010 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by skypilot (Post 7424486)
sp did not change, timing is, 0. 3.75, 7.50, 11.25, 15.00, 18.75, 22.50, 26.25

hope that helps.

:tire::D

It helps, thank you.

defcone 05-18-2010 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by mlight13 (Post 7424425)
That is kind of what I was asking. I just figured since there was a lot of debate between the similarity of SP and HW ESC's and firmware, I just thought I would ask if the AMTS settings changed with the new SP firmware as they did with the HW firmware. The HW 422 firmware used to be 0-26.25 degrees and now it is 0-21 degrees. I was curious if the SP firmware made the same change as there is no documentation with the new firmware other than the recommended numerical values (not actual values). If this is still confusing, please disregard.

Lost my usb cable so can't test for myself, doesn't it tell you when you're changing the values on the pc interface?

mlight13 05-19-2010 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by defcone (Post 7424685)
Lost my usb cable so can't test for myself, doesn't it tell you when you're changing the values on the pc interface?

For some reason, the values area of the PC interface is not lined up properly within the SP software window. I tried changing the resolution of my screen to a few different ones and I still can't see any more than the first value. I will try to get as hold of a buddy's laptop to try it out. I have no problem updating firmware of anything else though. Weird.

xrayal 05-19-2010 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by mlight13 (Post 7423333)
I hope I don't get banned for mentioning something, but I currently have 422 firmware from SP now and I am confused about one of the settings, the AMTS. The HW and SP 422 firmware seems identical except for the motor timing (AMTS). The values for the older SP firmware go from 0-26.25. Is it still the same or is it the same as the new HW firmware which goes from 0-21? For a 17.5 motor, HW recommends that I use 21* AMTS where as SP recommends 26.25* from their setup guide. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance...

only rpm delay is different. sp 4000-12000 hw 3000-15000. at 3000 the motor usualy labours to much and gets hot quick, in stock ie 13.5 15000 is to late to come in. start at around 4500 to 6000,
15 at setting 2/3 the rest is normally user preference dependant on your track.

geubes 05-19-2010 04:21 PM

To Shawn or any SP guys out there....

Will there be a PDF or detailed manual telling us about the supercharge settings and what you expect them to do.

more detail about setting 15 in 422, the values included in settings 9 and 12.

more technical info please and actual numbers and figures

I know there is a document that was released by HW for their 422 software, something similar from SP confirming their version and parameters would be super! - as the existing PDF on the SP site I would assume now to be out of date and irrelevant for 422.

irgo 05-19-2010 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by geubes (Post 7428610)
To Shawn or any SP guys out there....

Will there be a PDF or detailed manual telling us about the supercharge settings and what you expect them to do.

more detail about setting 15 in 422, the values included in settings 9 and 12.

more technical info please and actual numbers and figures

I know there is a document that was released by HW for their 422 software, something similar from SP confirming their version and parameters would be super! - as the existing PDF on the SP site I would assume now to be out of date and irrelevant for 422.

I'd be interested the Area 11 max,average,travel RPM Log.
for the Esc Firmware,....already there, but the Interface is not yet...:nod:

defcone 05-19-2010 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by irgo (Post 7429530)
I'd be interested the Area 11 max,average,travel RPM Log.
for the Esc Firmware,....already there, but the Interface is not yet...:nod:

So value 11 actually does something?

ifuonlyknew 05-19-2010 09:00 PM

This might be slightly off of all the software and timing talk, but here goes. I have a GT 1.1 LPF and it keeps displaying the "Battery voltage too high" error code. I have checked my pack and it was at 7.8 volts. I tried another pack and it did the same thing. I have checked every connection re-set and re-bound everything multiple times. I even hooked a multi-meter to the + and - solder posts on the esc and watched as nothing happened to the battery voltage, yet it still kicked out the error code (green light flashes twice, then a one second break). I think it might be done. Does anyone know who I should send this to, and about how much it might cost to get fixed (if they can even fix it)?

Thanks,
Ifuonlyknew

razzor 05-19-2010 11:13 PM

look at reinstalling the esc firmware.

geubes 05-20-2010 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by defcone (Post 7429688)
So value 11 actually does something?

if you read the help file in the software, it says: motor rotation 1:CW 2:CCW
(aka clock-wise and counter clock-wise)

mr crum 05-20-2010 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by ifuonlyknew (Post 7429877)
This might be slightly off of all the software and timing talk, but here goes. I have a GT 1.1 LPF and it keeps displaying the "Battery voltage too high" error code. I have checked my pack and it was at 7.8 volts. I tried another pack and it did the same thing. I have checked every connection re-set and re-bound everything multiple times. I even hooked a multi-meter to the + and - solder posts on the esc and watched as nothing happened to the battery voltage, yet it still kicked out the error code (green light flashes twice, then a one second break). I think it might be done. Does anyone know who I should send this to, and about how much it might cost to get fixed (if they can even fix it)?

Thanks,
Ifuonlyknew

i have 2 1.1 left i dont think they will work on them anymore could be wrong but if you want another one pm me ill make you a good deal


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