Tamiya TRF415
#9871
Tech Master
Originally Posted by BritRacer
OK, it seems i had the TA04 hard front uprights on, are better/worse that the LW C Uprights?
I have some C Uprights, but the current bearings in the Hard uprights dont fit.
What size bearings are designed to go in the LW hubs, Do i need different axles?
thanks
I have some C Uprights, but the current bearings in the Hard uprights dont fit.
What size bearings are designed to go in the LW hubs, Do i need different axles?
thanks
And the Cv shaft,you should use a longer one then previous arms.Say a 46mm swing shaft and a TB EVO4 wheel axle.Hope this helps.
#9872
Tech Master
Originally Posted by FTD RACING
One thing I noticed on Adam's car was that he doesn't run the 4 chassis posts, does anyone else run their car like that?
#9873
Originally Posted by Ben.C
The LW sus arms are totally different arms altogether.The bearings are way smaller. If memory don't fail me.It should be a 850 bearing(could someone verify).
And the Cv shaft,you should use a longer one then previous arms.Say a 46mm swing shaft and a TB EVO4 wheel axle.Hope this helps.
And the Cv shaft,you should use a longer one then previous arms.Say a 46mm swing shaft and a TB EVO4 wheel axle.Hope this helps.
OK, now that I know which is which, the LW seems to leave huge gaps between the two suspension mounts.
Is this what the MS chassis changes?
If I want to keep the standard chassis, are there parts I should be shimming with, or do I use a lot of 2mm spacers??????
And LASTLY, i am using Kobiachs carpet setup, how should I shim the LW arms??? 0.7mm at the rear will push them waaaaaayyyyyyyy back.
Last edited by BritRacer; 08-29-2005 at 08:25 PM.
#9874
Originally Posted by Ben.C
The LW sus arms are totally different arms altogether.The bearings are way smaller. If memory don't fail me.It should be a 850 bearing(could someone verify)...
#9875
Tech Master
[QUOTE=BritRacer]OK, seems I put the standard arms and assembly on rather than the LW...DOH.
OK, now that I know which is which, the LW seems to leave huge gaps between the two suspension mounts.
Is this what the MS chassis changes?
The Shock towers,and main chassis are diff also.The 415 uses a 3mm chassis while the MS uses a 2.5mm one.
Regarding your shimming of wheelbase.I use the setup recammanded in the instruction manual that comes with the LWS arms set.
OK, now that I know which is which, the LW seems to leave huge gaps between the two suspension mounts.
Is this what the MS chassis changes?
The Shock towers,and main chassis are diff also.The 415 uses a 3mm chassis while the MS uses a 2.5mm one.
Regarding your shimming of wheelbase.I use the setup recammanded in the instruction manual that comes with the LWS arms set.
#9876
Tech Champion
iTrader: (4)
Brit racer; If you don't have the LWT manual, try these spacings.
On the front, place 2mm in front of the arm, and 6mm behind (2x3mm).
On the rear place 5mm (2mm+3mm) and 3mm behind the arm.
F.Alonso; the hole in the middle of the std front shock tower is for a 5th body post. Allows you to support the front wheel arches in a roll over/crash, avoiding the nasty spilts that run up them. I'm currently running it whilst racing indoors on a (very) tight indoor carpet track, seems to help when I crash If you want to try it, take a rear bodypost, and mount it with in a similar manner to teh rear ones. Just don't forget to ream another hole in your shell....
HiH
Ed
On the front, place 2mm in front of the arm, and 6mm behind (2x3mm).
On the rear place 5mm (2mm+3mm) and 3mm behind the arm.
F.Alonso; the hole in the middle of the std front shock tower is for a 5th body post. Allows you to support the front wheel arches in a roll over/crash, avoiding the nasty spilts that run up them. I'm currently running it whilst racing indoors on a (very) tight indoor carpet track, seems to help when I crash If you want to try it, take a rear bodypost, and mount it with in a similar manner to teh rear ones. Just don't forget to ream another hole in your shell....
HiH
Ed
#9877
Tech Initiate
Do you need to use a different roll bar kit when using the LWT suspension? I wanted to give it a try at Bedworth but the front one just wouldn't fit.
Also, I have noticed that the slop on the back hubs is pretty poor - probably due to the small bearings - what do people do to tighten this up, if anything.
Andrew
Also, I have noticed that the slop on the back hubs is pretty poor - probably due to the small bearings - what do people do to tighten this up, if anything.
Andrew
#9878
Originally Posted by TryHard
Brit racer; If you don't have the LWT manual, try these spacings.
On the front, place 2mm in front of the arm, and 6mm behind (2x3mm).
On the rear place 5mm (2mm+3mm) and 3mm behind the arm.
HiH
Ed
On the front, place 2mm in front of the arm, and 6mm behind (2x3mm).
On the rear place 5mm (2mm+3mm) and 3mm behind the arm.
HiH
Ed
However, after reading another 50 or so pages of this thread last night, I discovered that as I run on carpet, the standard arms are a better option for me.
I plan on running on asphalt in the autumn when its cooler outside, so I will try them then, but I think I will get a MS chassis with more flex and so that I don't mess up my carpet chassis.
THanks again to everyone for the help....
I am slowly but surely getting there!!!
#9879
Originally Posted by BritRacer
Thanks, I don't have the manual, I will try that.
415MS - http://www.tamiya.com/english/rc/rcmanual/trf415ms.pdf
415 - http://www.tamiya.com/english/rc/rcmanual/trf415.pdf
415 LWT Suspension Set - http://www.tamiya.com/english/rc/rcm...f415revsus.pdf
#9880
Thanks ballsie! That was a great help.
Would the latest recomendation for capet be? The LW or the standard setup?
Would the latest recomendation for capet be? The LW or the standard setup?
#9881
No problem!
I'd recommend the standard suspension - thats what I use.
I have used the LWT setup though and it's still good, but not as good.
I'd recommend the standard suspension - thats what I use.
I have used the LWT setup though and it's still good, but not as good.
#9882
I have been using a mates spare 415MS car and liked it so just got a 415 2nd hand.
the 2nd hand car has 4mm shims under the ball joints on the steering linkage plate, where as everyone at the club I run at uses 1mm spacers.
Can anyone give my any idea as what the increase in spacers has?
the 2nd hand car has 4mm shims under the ball joints on the steering linkage plate, where as everyone at the club I run at uses 1mm spacers.
Can anyone give my any idea as what the increase in spacers has?
#9883
Tech Elite
iTrader: (1)
Barry Hughes, running more spacers under the front inner camber link position raise's the front roll centre, allowing the front of the car to roll more, generating more steering. I run between 4-6mm spacers on my car, I like the way it turns in a lot better(asphault) than the way it does with 1-2mm of spacers.
Hope this helps
Hope this helps