143LikesAwesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
11-29-2013, 05:36 PM
#4876
Tech Apprentice
Not sure really. Only run 17.5 on height grip carpet. Not sure I need that kit. But open to it. Would love to get a few hundred dollars in spare parts too.
11-29-2013, 05:39 PM
#4877
You can never be too ready for the competition....lol.... Good luck...
11-29-2013, 07:09 PM
#4879
The 17.5T Touring Car Class at the Cleveland US Indoor Champs, sponsored by Awesomatix USA, is the largest touring car class this weekend at this mid-west classic race. Brian Wynn -- currently is 2nd overall after the first round with his A700L USA Spec.
After watching Brian's video - he is the pink car - i'm shocked he put that good of a run in. hopefully an eventually resort will allow for a cleaner run...
http://live.liverc.com/21-Cleveland_...Championships/
After watching Brian's video - he is the pink car - i'm shocked he put that good of a run in. hopefully an eventually resort will allow for a cleaner run...
http://live.liverc.com/21-Cleveland_...Championships/
11-30-2013, 12:15 AM
#4880
Tech Fanatic
there is not transfer of the torque from the rear gearbox to the front end of the chassis hence there is not any additional parasitic torsion flex of the chassis between the rear gearbox and the front gearbox caused by the torque from the main shaft.
In addition to this we got with FFG a completely new chassis's flex system.
With FFG and without the conventional flat top deck installed:
1. We have the possibility to switch "off" or "on" the additional longitudinal flex (bending) for the rear and the front chassis's ends independently.
2. We eliminate the transfer of the chassis's longitudinal flex (bending) from the front suspension to the rear suspension area and vice versa.
All current cars with the conventional top decks have this parasitic ( according to my opinion) transfer of the longitudinal flex.
You can easily see it - just press the center area of your car by hand to the car stand and simultaneously try to lift the front end of the car. You will see that the top deck transfers the bending of the front end of chassis to the rear and the chassis's rear end bends down. I think that this is not good as it makes the front and rear suspensions "a bit not independant".
3. A twisted chassis problem goes away. No top deck = no twisted chassis.
4. We can use very thin chassis now in case of track conditions will require.
The stiff top rod of FFG combined with the central brace support prevents the excessive bending of such chassis.
Last edited by Oleg Babich; 11-30-2013 at 01:10 AM.
11-30-2013, 03:53 AM
#4881
Old A700 parts wanted
If anyone has a set of old style bulkheads and possibly a clean original uncut chassis hanging around after upgrading and don't want them please PM me 
11-30-2013, 07:52 AM
#4883
11-30-2013, 08:41 AM
#4884
Are there many places to get one of these cars in the UK, or do i have to order everything from europe?
11-30-2013, 09:04 AM
#4885
I have to clarify:
there is not transfer of the torque from the rear gearbox to the front end of the chassis hence there is not any additional parasitic torsion flex of the chassis between the rear gearbox and the front gearbox caused by the torque from the main shaft.
In addition to this we got with FFG a completely new chassis's flex system.
With FFG and without the conventional flat top deck installed:
1. We have the possibility to switch "off" or "on" the additional longitudinal flex (bending) for the rear and the front chassis's ends independently.
2. We eliminate the transfer of the chassis's longitudinal flex (bending) from the front suspension to the rear suspension area and vice versa.
All current cars with the conventional top decks have this parasitic ( according to my opinion) transfer of the longitudinal flex.
You can easily see it - just press the center area of your car by hand to the car stand and simultaneously try to lift the front end of the car. You will see that the top deck transfers the bending of the front end of chassis to the rear and the chassis's rear end bends down. I think that this is not good as it makes the front and rear suspensions "a bit not independant".
3. A twisted chassis problem goes away. No top deck = no twisted chassis.
4. We can use very thin chassis now in case of track conditions will require.
The stiff top rod of FFG combined with the central brace support prevents the excessive bending of such chassis.
there is not transfer of the torque from the rear gearbox to the front end of the chassis hence there is not any additional parasitic torsion flex of the chassis between the rear gearbox and the front gearbox caused by the torque from the main shaft.
In addition to this we got with FFG a completely new chassis's flex system.
With FFG and without the conventional flat top deck installed:
1. We have the possibility to switch "off" or "on" the additional longitudinal flex (bending) for the rear and the front chassis's ends independently.
2. We eliminate the transfer of the chassis's longitudinal flex (bending) from the front suspension to the rear suspension area and vice versa.
All current cars with the conventional top decks have this parasitic ( according to my opinion) transfer of the longitudinal flex.
You can easily see it - just press the center area of your car by hand to the car stand and simultaneously try to lift the front end of the car. You will see that the top deck transfers the bending of the front end of chassis to the rear and the chassis's rear end bends down. I think that this is not good as it makes the front and rear suspensions "a bit not independant".
3. A twisted chassis problem goes away. No top deck = no twisted chassis.
4. We can use very thin chassis now in case of track conditions will require.
The stiff top rod of FFG combined with the central brace support prevents the excessive bending of such chassis.
Thank you for the explanation. I understood some of that. :-)
11-30-2013, 12:14 PM
#4886
Tech Regular
11-30-2013, 06:56 PM
#4887
Brian Wynn has TQ'd the 17.5T Touring Car Class, Sponsored by Awesomatix USA, at the 2013 US Indoor Champs! Best of luck to Brian tomorrow...
Top 5-
1) Brian Wynn 45/6:04.392 (R3)
2) Sam Isaacs 45/6:05.120 (R4)
3) Dave Johnson 45/6:07.288 (R4)
4) Mike Herald Jr. 45/6:07.579 (R4)
5) Danny Jenkins 45/6:07.992 (R4
Top 5-
1) Brian Wynn 45/6:04.392 (R3)
2) Sam Isaacs 45/6:05.120 (R4)
3) Dave Johnson 45/6:07.288 (R4)
4) Mike Herald Jr. 45/6:07.579 (R4)
5) Danny Jenkins 45/6:07.992 (R4
11-30-2013, 07:16 PM
#4888
Good running Brian !!!!
11-30-2013, 09:16 PM
#4889
Tech Fanatic
Good luck, Brian!!!
11-30-2013, 09:59 PM
#4890
All the hooplas on the FFG system makes me wonder whether the transverse motor mounting system is dead ended...