Tekin RS ESC sensored
12-16-2009, 04:10 PM
#8716
i think the question is how soon for who?
i mean is v200 software even on tekins website?
i got my v200 software from a post in this thread and that was not posted from a tekin guy. others get it from emails or at races, etc...
when the software is released it should be for download straight from the website and not from a friend of a friend kind of deal.
if the latest updates or even v200 are available from the website i retract my statement but i don't see v200 anywhere on the download page.
i mean is v200 software even on tekins website?
i got my v200 software from a post in this thread and that was not posted from a tekin guy. others get it from emails or at races, etc...
when the software is released it should be for download straight from the website and not from a friend of a friend kind of deal.
if the latest updates or even v200 are available from the website i retract my statement but i don't see v200 anywhere on the download page.
12-16-2009, 04:10 PM
#8717
It's good to see that the gotta have it now mentality is still alive and well in RC racing. It seemed like not too long ago you had to wait 6 months to a year for a speedo manufacturer to to come out with a new hard coded speedo. You then had to dump your old speedo at a discounted price to buy the new to keep up with the Jones'. Now everyone has speedos that upgrade via you home computer or laptop almost as fast as the manufacturer can type the code. Not only is it instant but it's also free. Wait? What? You mean almost everyone else still sells speedos that are hard coded and Tekin uis one of the few that the end user can update? Oh, well I guess nevermind. Way to go Tekin keep up the great work!
12-16-2009, 04:25 PM
#8720
Since we added boost we have not been posting the software on the website. Our thinking was if you have to ask someone for it they will hopefully mention that you need to drop a lot of gear, and you will go faster and run cooler. That is not obvious and without this information it is easy to be setup badly, be overgeared, melt your motor and be generally unhappy. The dynamic timing software is just too dangerous for average Joe that maxes all adjustments, straps in a 2.5 turn and uses the stock pinion with his RTR. We are protecting ourselves as well as our customers and think it has been the right thing to do till now.
The new software will be freely available to everyone before the Snowbirds. The team will be testing it for at least 2 weeks before release. The software will be posted on the website for download along with information for setups. We are going to ask people to register. Now that most are familiar with the new setups and not using pinions as large as the spur like we were, we think there is less risk to both of us.
Tekin Prez
The new software will be freely available to everyone before the Snowbirds. The team will be testing it for at least 2 weeks before release. The software will be posted on the website for download along with information for setups. We are going to ask people to register. Now that most are familiar with the new setups and not using pinions as large as the spur like we were, we think there is less risk to both of us.
Tekin Prez
12-16-2009, 04:30 PM
#8721
Since we added boost we have not been posting the software on the website. Our thinking was if you have to ask someone for it they will hopefully mention that you need to drop a lot of gear, and you will go faster and run cooler. That is not obvious and without this information it is easy to be setup badly, be overgeared, melt your motor and be generally unhappy. The dynamic timing software is just too dangerous for average Joe that maxes all adjustments, straps in a 2.5 turn and uses the stock pinion with his RTR. We are protecting ourselves as well as our customers and think it has been the right thing to do till now.
The new software will be freely available to everyone before the Snowbirds. The team will be testing it for at least 2 weeks before release. The software will be posted on the website for download along with information for setups. We are going to ask people to register. Now that most are familiar with the new setups and not using pinions as large as the spur like we were, we think there is less risk to both of us.
Tekin Prez
The new software will be freely available to everyone before the Snowbirds. The team will be testing it for at least 2 weeks before release. The software will be posted on the website for download along with information for setups. We are going to ask people to register. Now that most are familiar with the new setups and not using pinions as large as the spur like we were, we think there is less risk to both of us.
Tekin Prez
this is great news! where/when can we register?
12-16-2009, 04:46 PM
#8722
rs esc
Honestly, if you feel that you need a shorter delay than .2 you're probably not using turbo correctly.
You exit a corner, and mash full throttle. If turbo were to kick in instantly you'd be throwing all that extra timing at the motor in a relatively low-rpm state, which is counter-productive. Let the motor have low-timing torque to get it spinning, and then add the turbo timing just before it winds out to get that extra RPM.
This is my generalization based on my own experience: if you think you need a shorter turbo delay, odds are you actually need a longer turbo delay.
Say you start out at .5 and the car doesn't seem quick enough. Naturally, you lower the turbo delay, and somehow it still doesn't seem quick enough. You repeat until you're at .2 and you're still not thrilled with the performance, and now you're overheating while still being outrun by the SPX guys who come off the track at 145ºF.
What gives? Using the automotive analogy that has been stated before, you're shifting into 2nd gear way too early.
I'll repeat the procedure since it hasn't come back up for a few pages:
1) Turn turbo OFF.
2) Adjust motor timing, ESC timing boost (not turbo) and gearing until you have gobs of punch and are unbeatable in the infield. You will be geared way, way shorter (higher numerically) than you ever have been before. We're talking FDR of 5.0+/- for 17.5 and 6.0+/- for 13.5 depending on the track. At this point you should be ripping everyone coming out of turns but getting pulled down the straight rather considerably. Make a note of the point at which you feel the car stops pulling.
3) Only now, start adding turbo. Start with 10 turbo and 1.0 second delay. Now, you will hit the straight, quickly top out, and then turbo will noticeably hit at some point in the straight.
4) Dial the turbo delay down by .1 sec. That point where it kicks in will be a bit closer to the point where it stopped pulling in step 2. Repeat in .1 second increments until the two points overlap.
5) Now your turbo delay is right. The last thing to do is to increase (or in some cases decrease) the turbo timing value to get the top end speed you need.
It takes a bit of time and work, but if you go step-by-step you will end up with a car that is both quick and fast.
Using the above approach I usually end up at .6-.8 turbo delay.
It sounds a bit complicated, but once you have gone through the procedure once you will have a feel for what the changes do and will be able to adjust for different tracks pretty easily.
You exit a corner, and mash full throttle. If turbo were to kick in instantly you'd be throwing all that extra timing at the motor in a relatively low-rpm state, which is counter-productive. Let the motor have low-timing torque to get it spinning, and then add the turbo timing just before it winds out to get that extra RPM.
This is my generalization based on my own experience: if you think you need a shorter turbo delay, odds are you actually need a longer turbo delay.
Say you start out at .5 and the car doesn't seem quick enough. Naturally, you lower the turbo delay, and somehow it still doesn't seem quick enough. You repeat until you're at .2 and you're still not thrilled with the performance, and now you're overheating while still being outrun by the SPX guys who come off the track at 145ºF.
What gives? Using the automotive analogy that has been stated before, you're shifting into 2nd gear way too early.
I'll repeat the procedure since it hasn't come back up for a few pages:
1) Turn turbo OFF.
2) Adjust motor timing, ESC timing boost (not turbo) and gearing until you have gobs of punch and are unbeatable in the infield. You will be geared way, way shorter (higher numerically) than you ever have been before. We're talking FDR of 5.0+/- for 17.5 and 6.0+/- for 13.5 depending on the track. At this point you should be ripping everyone coming out of turns but getting pulled down the straight rather considerably. Make a note of the point at which you feel the car stops pulling.
3) Only now, start adding turbo. Start with 10 turbo and 1.0 second delay. Now, you will hit the straight, quickly top out, and then turbo will noticeably hit at some point in the straight.
4) Dial the turbo delay down by .1 sec. That point where it kicks in will be a bit closer to the point where it stopped pulling in step 2. Repeat in .1 second increments until the two points overlap.
5) Now your turbo delay is right. The last thing to do is to increase (or in some cases decrease) the turbo timing value to get the top end speed you need.
It takes a bit of time and work, but if you go step-by-step you will end up with a car that is both quick and fast.
Using the above approach I usually end up at .6-.8 turbo delay.
It sounds a bit complicated, but once you have gone through the procedure once you will have a feel for what the changes do and will be able to adjust for different tracks pretty easily.
12-16-2009, 04:47 PM
#8723
Since we added boost we have not been posting the software on the website. Our thinking was if you have to ask someone for it they will hopefully mention that you need to drop a lot of gear, and you will go faster and run cooler. That is not obvious and without this information it is easy to be setup badly, be overgeared, melt your motor and be generally unhappy. The dynamic timing software is just too dangerous for average Joe that maxes all adjustments, straps in a 2.5 turn and uses the stock pinion with his RTR. We are protecting ourselves as well as our customers and think it has been the right thing to do till now.
The new software will be freely available to everyone before the Snowbirds. The team will be testing it for at least 2 weeks before release. The software will be posted on the website for download along with information for setups. We are going to ask people to register. Now that most are familiar with the new setups and not using pinions as large as the spur like we were, we think there is less risk to both of us.
Tekin Prez
The new software will be freely available to everyone before the Snowbirds. The team will be testing it for at least 2 weeks before release. The software will be posted on the website for download along with information for setups. We are going to ask people to register. Now that most are familiar with the new setups and not using pinions as large as the spur like we were, we think there is less risk to both of us.
Tekin Prez
I want a straight forward honest answer and you gave it.
Like any engineering project there are usually dates put on milestones and release dates. It would be nice to hear a release date other then "it's coming soon". If you can't meet the release give a reason and then we'll all understand. I know some of this standoff on giving a release date was because of the original R ESC deboucle.
To the person that asked if I'm running both the MMP and RS the answer is yes I have run both in my TC. In fact the RS is currently in my 13.5 and the MMP is my VTA
12-16-2009, 04:53 PM
#8724
And Release Notes Would be great What's changed or what's improved etc.
Cheers
Cheers
12-16-2009, 07:54 PM
#8725
Jacko
12-16-2009, 08:58 PM
#8728
The new software will be freely available to everyone before the Snowbirds. The team will be testing it for at least 2 weeks before release. The software will be posted on the website for download along with information for setups. We are going to ask people to register. Now that most are familiar with the new setups and not using pinions as large as the spur like we were, we think there is less risk to both of us.
Tekin Prez
Looking forward for the the release
12-16-2009, 10:27 PM
#8730
