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kentech 11-22-2007 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by nutsisneat (Post 3893256)
What result did Kenneth acheive?

I'd like to know how competitive the car is...
Does anybody know?

The result in that race was no good at all... :cry:

However, it's hard to judge the car based on that. First of all, I'm no top class driver. Second, I got the car a few days before the race and did 2 packs with the car before qualifying started and had no spare parts...

Towards the end of the race I think the setup was about 80% there. It felt ok on the track in the end and looked ok. It still needed more work though to get it to be consistent and easy to drive over 5 minutes. I also would have needed to find 2-3 tenths in lap time.

I have been very busy lately so unfortunately I have not managed to run the car extensively after the race.

The car has many nice features and comes very nicely presented. On carpet (the only surface I have run it on) I would say it still needs some work to get it to perform optimally at the highest level. If this can be reached just by perfecting the setup or if it needs some developments - I'm not in a position to answer, due to my limited time with the car.

Kenneth

gansei 11-22-2007 08:36 AM

my E4 setup
 
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it's my E4 outdoor setup (middle ~ large circuit)

i made 1.4mm stebil bar cutting long body pin.

gansei 11-24-2007 08:52 AM

http://kfactoryracing.com/INS/K%20Fa...101-banner.jpg K Factory is proud to present the latest option part for the electric touring car. The TC Motor Cooling Head will fit the Team Magic E4 perfectly, as well as any other electric car with a transverse mounted motor.
http://kfactoryracing.com/BIG/K%20FACTORY/K71/K7101.jpg http://kfactoryracing.com/INS/K%20Fa...utok/IMAGE.jpg
The TC Motor Cooling Head is machined out of aluminium, anodized black and will effectively cool the motor due to a well thought-out design. Compared to most other heat sinks, the fins of the K Factory TC Motor Cooling Head is turned 90 degrees. By turning the fins this way air will be able to constantly pass through the heat sink. This means that the heat sink will be much more effective, using the airflow inside the car to help increase the cooling effect dramatically.

As to further improve the cooling effect, K Factory exclusively includes a special thermal pad with each TC Motor Cooling Head. The improved cooling effect of the TC Motor Cooling Head means that your motor will perform at its highest level for longer, perhaps giving you that crucial advantage needed! Efficiency will be dramatically improves, while a cooler motor also means less wear, prolonging the life of your favourite motor.

To give the TC Motor Cooling Head that K Factory look, the beautifully machined lightweight heat sink is anodized black and engraved with the K Factory logo.

http://kfactoryracing.com/INS/K%20Fa...N%20MANUAL.jpg http://kfactoryracing.com/INS/K%20Fa...nstruction.jpg

razzor 11-24-2007 09:43 AM

If they could incorporate a fan then it would be even better.
The nosram heatsink i think is the best.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...amheatsink.jpg

Jochim_18 11-25-2007 04:03 PM

I got the car put together today, But damn the belt is just way to tight. So right now I have the belt soaked to WD40 see how it feels tomorrow. Car was really easy to put together quality is very good, I can't believe how narrow the chassis is. I thought my MI3 have a narrowest chassis but not!!!!!!!!!!! I'm running brushless using GTB ESC so it will be a tight fit.....

I also used the tamiya spring, See how that works. But need to get some more HPI springs.....

I also need to get a low profile servo, standard servo is sticking out too far.

Well so far soo good. sucks that I can't run this car probably not till about next year....

TM Sean 11-25-2007 10:50 PM

K Factory E4 Anti-Roll Bar

http://teammagic.com.tw/big\K FACTORY\K21\k2107.jpg http://teammagic.com.tw/big\K FACTORY\K21\k2108.jpg

OLD 69 11-26-2007 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by Jochim_18 (Post 3902874)
I got the car put together today, But damn the belt is just way to tight. So right now I have the belt soaked to WD40 see how it feels tomorrow. Car was really easy to put together quality is very good, I can't believe how narrow the chassis is. I thought my MI3 have a narrowest chassis but not!!!!!!!!!!! I'm running brushless using GTB ESC so it will be a tight fit.....

I also used the tamiya spring, See how that works. But need to get some more HPI springs.....

I also need to get a low profile servo, standard servo is sticking out too far.

Well so far soo good. sucks that I can't run this car probably not till about next year....

Every E4 is tight out of the box. Trust me it will free up a good 30-40% from new. WD40 will help a lot. I personally used some 30wt shock oil, a couple of drops on each belt worked a treat.

Ari

luic 11-26-2007 02:08 PM

Yes, this is true, but after 10-12 packs the car are more free up. I have a good setup base for rubbers in asphalt, the car have a good aceleration and is more easy to drive with a quit pass trought curves.
Here is my setup, i like if someone probe it, i would like to comment on the good things and bad, of course.
In other hand, i talk with Patrick Jasmin (JPproducts) for make a front spool, more light, i think the car will be even faster with it.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6663/e4aspeew9.jpg

gansei 11-26-2007 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by luic (Post 3906947)
Yes, this is true, but after 10-12 packs the car are more free up. I have a good setup base for rubbers in asphalt, the car have a good aceleration and is more easy to drive with a quit pass trought curves.
Here is my setup, i like if someone probe it, i would like to comment on the good things and bad, of course.
In other hand, i talk with Patrick Jasmin (JPproducts) for make a front spool, more light, i think the car will be even faster with it.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6663/e4aspeew9.jpg

TM will release nylon plastic pully sets soon.. :smile:

Jochim_18 11-26-2007 09:11 PM

Who carry K-factory parts here in U.S?

azrael_nite 11-27-2007 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by jontang001 (Post 3872734)
Hi
If you have question with the modify of the E4 in the link which you post, you can ask me here...because the car made by my friends...I can ask him! The E4, now, is the champion car in Taiwan for a 23T motor race. Its unbelieve corner speed that I never seen~~~especially the "lightning turns" (i do not know how to explain the countious turns in real English... ). I believe there will be some officelly option parts to release very soon.

Hey... question for you on this page: http://www.rchome.com.tw/cgi-bin/top...art=108&show=0

What's going on toward the bottom of the page? Mainly the last picture. Just wondering. Looks like he's having some sort of problem with the cvd in earlier pics. It appears he put something like heat shrink tubing on the joint? Did it work for him?

GreaseMonkey 11-27-2007 05:19 PM

Look at the picture above it. It looks like the blade for the dogbone spread which lead to a little bit of damage on the out drive. I suspect the heat shrink is to stop the blade from spreading again.

Lycan 11-27-2007 09:42 PM

Snapped both front UJ's the other day... anyone else experienced this too?

ottoman 11-27-2007 10:01 PM

Saw my first real live E4 at the track tonight (Trackside Hobbies) looked like a very nice car. It qualified second in 13.5 rubber tire its first time out so it seems to have a lot of potential :nod:

Syber Serulean 11-28-2007 12:23 AM

you know, i hate to ask this but if possible, or if someone knows, how does this car compare to the JRXS-R (asphalt/rubber)? They both seem very "centrally" oriented (the losi more so) but i dunno...anyone?

billbill4u 11-28-2007 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Syber Serulean (Post 3913778)
you know, i hate to ask this but if possible, or if someone knows, how does this car compare to the JRXS-R (asphalt/rubber)? They both seem very "centrally" oriented (the losi more so) but i dunno...anyone?

I get E4 recently and my friend play losi JRX, I find that losi is more stable but less punch due to heavy weight if use the same motor

also, I find some problem on E4 dog bone it easy to break

Barry White 11-28-2007 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by azrael_nite (Post 3912010)
Hey... question for you on this page: http://www.rchome.com.tw/cgi-bin/top...art=108&show=0

What's going on toward the bottom of the page? Mainly the last picture. Just wondering. Looks like he's having some sort of problem with the cvd in earlier pics. It appears he put something like heat shrink tubing on the joint? Did it work for him?

Who makes the aluminium rear hubs?

billbill4u 11-28-2007 07:48 AM

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like this

billbill4u 11-28-2007 07:54 AM

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so I try to use 415 MSX dog bone hup on E4, although it is not 100% fit, but Much better than the original one

here is some photo of my car

Lycan 11-28-2007 08:23 PM

The steering is upside down... why?

billbill4u 11-28-2007 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Lycan (Post 3917344)
The steering is upside down... why?

yes, because I am using lipo that not fit the original design, so I have to change the steering. After it, they perfect match! :lol:

black-knight 11-28-2007 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Barry White (Post 3914690)
Who makes the aluminium rear hubs?

TM have some coming out for the e4.

RCTVLIVE 11-29-2007 06:51 AM

It will make it to air
 
We have received numerous requests to have the E4 Sedan from Team Magic reviewed on www.rctvlive.com. We are pleased to announce we will have the E4 on a future episode. Thanks for your interest. Jeff

cuttingedge 12-02-2007 09:30 AM

Can someone tell me the spring rate of the standard Kit springs Please

I have found my old Yokomo T/C springs fit if this helps anyone

HTH

Isaac 12-02-2007 07:31 PM

Besides overseas where can one get this car and parts readily for this chassis?

Thomas P 12-03-2007 02:40 AM

Im close to get the E4 BUT
 
What is the weak point of this car ( i will only runt 27T Stock untill i get more Licens points,to do Mod). What is the most comon parts that breaks? what spare should or MUST i have,how is the Belts,the diffs. Did see a pic of the D-bones..that didnt look to good, will this be a issiue on a 27T car?

I will run schumacher rubbers,and a 27T motor, tracks are preaty medium, and grip is medium...what Pinion and Spurs is recomended to have in the butler?

For motor i wi use a Tuned Advance 27T and Advance 5.0 ESC. think 5 cells TSR will be enough.

tips and hints would be good...2 of my club m8s running the E4, one 27T and the other Mod..the ar seems REAL smoth...:)

gansei 12-03-2007 07:48 AM

nude E4
 
http://pds52.cafe.daum.net/image/4/c.../47541f61d3ca5


nessary spare parts: rear,front belts, front/rear susarm,knuckle arm, drive shaft pin protector

RC MARKET 12-03-2007 11:21 AM

Wa !

Thomas P 12-03-2007 02:10 PM

ok, but in stock 27 i dont think the belts will go, but i ordred some anyway...we only using Schumacher rubbers, no track sauce... What range of springs, and Where can i getém? my local hobbyshop is a TM dealer, but dont have al parts yet, but all the NT arts, will thoose springs fit? and what oil is usble? what W?

gansei 12-03-2007 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Thomas P (Post 3933828)
ok, but in stock 27 i dont think the belts will go, but i ordred some anyway...we only using Schumacher rubbers, no track sauce... What range of springs, and Where can i getém? my local hobbyshop is a TM dealer, but dont have al parts yet, but all the NT arts, will thoose springs fit? and what oil is usble? what W?

i always run E4 with 3.5 or 4.5 brushless motors.

i used TM G4S Spring 1.4,1.5 and shock oil was 350 ~ 450W.

and i also used serpent yellow,white front spring(GP spring)

Thomas P 12-03-2007 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by gansei (Post 3934337)
i always run E4 with 3.5 or 4.5 brushless motors.

i used TM G4S Spring 1.4,1.5 and shock oil was 350 ~ 450W.

and i also used serpent yellow,white front spring(GP spring)

perfect Gansei, ut ya see i want that to, i have a few systems here..but my License wont let me compete in the Modified class :flaming::D..thank god thats no issiue in buggy for me, free motors/esc

but very much thank you for thoose tips, il get thos asap...maybe some softer...

gansei 12-04-2007 07:21 AM

E4 alum Top Deck middle mount
 
E4 alum Top Deck middle mount

it help to decrease chassis roll....

it will be best option in carpet race or high-grip traction circuit..

http://pds54.cafe.daum.net/image/9/c.../47553c20a213a

http://pds54.cafe.daum.net/image/8/c.../47553c2a219a8

http://pds54.cafe.daum.net/image/8/c.../47553c364d29f

http://pds54.cafe.daum.net/image/6/c.../47553c4564db4

cuttingedge 12-04-2007 08:59 AM

Nice looking Turnbuckles what are they Off , I am yet to run my E4 but the
turnbuckles do worry me they look very weak :eek:

gansei 12-04-2007 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by cuttingedge (Post 3937026)
Nice looking Turnbuckles what are they Off , I am yet to run my E4 but the
turnbuckles do worry me they look very weak :eek:

the turnbuckles was mixed products.. kysho, mugen, academy..

i preper the hole embeded turnbuckles!!

Thomas P 12-05-2007 09:34 PM

Any tip for how i will mount the batterybars at the end of each pack? 5 cell config.Check Ganesi´s lauyout no problem with batt tubes on + and -,BUT with 5 cells it will not be so much space between topdeck and servo..

YLLIB 12-05-2007 09:48 PM

Hello Isaac, You can get the g4rs, e4 and g4+ at SpeedWorld in Calif. They have them and getting the g4 rs this week.
www.speedworldraceway.com

Hope this helps

billbill4u 12-05-2007 10:37 PM

I would like to know is this know optional parts fit with orion li-po 3200?

gansei 12-06-2007 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by billbill4u (Post 3943634)
I would like to know is this know optional parts fit with orion li-po 3200?

my li-po 4800 was fit with this option..

luic 12-06-2007 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by Thomas P (Post 3943479)
Any tip for how i will mount the batterybars at the end of each pack? 5 cell config.Check Ganesi´s lauyout no problem with batt tubes on + and -,BUT with 5 cells it will not be so much space between topdeck and servo..

I run with 5 cells, and not have problem with conectors, the - i have in the rear right, near to ESC and the + in the left, near to midle belt.

In the other hand, i testing more the car, and the feel is good, but i need more agile in front, i modified the rear arms, and now can adjust the wheellbase in 2mm, the car is more reactive when is short, and for me, is more fast.
In front, i feel the steering system, more flex, and have bump steer, if add washer to steering block, the bump steer is reduced, but the steering block flex and make the steering slowly, and litle imprecise.
Now, i put the steering carbon brace upside down, how the photo, but i suplement the plastic braces, because touch in the top deck, and for make more consistent this zone, i have not yet tested, but i reduce the washer in steering block to 2 mm, and the bump steer is insignificant.
I dont have any problem with the dogbones, are very good, but the blades in rear break, and in the list of parts is the same ref, to the dogbone, i hope TM that manufactured separately, for now i adapted a Xray blades.
And the next week, i hope to testing the new spool.
For now is .2 -.3s , more slow, to the Cyclone in the same circuit, same tyres, same electronic, and same driver, but i need more work with he.

Sorry if my English is not more readable, ;-)

Greetings, Luis C.

cuttingedge 12-06-2007 05:37 AM

Has anyone made o front Diff for there E4 ? looking at it i am wondering if a Tamiya 415 rear diff might fit ill try it later

Front diff maybe a good option for tight tracks as as we all know a hard impact with a spool in means somthings got to give as earlyer mentioned in this tread by somone who,s drive shafts keep breaking .....

Cant wait to run mine for the first time Sunday...........


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