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Marcos.J 02-24-2008 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by wyd (Post 4201187)
Damn it your racing and your still posting on the Tech. You really are amazing.:lol:

lol thanks to my cell phone:)
the set up was really good very happy with it a lot more corner speed than the previous set up.

mwoods 02-24-2008 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Marcos.J (Post 4201531)
lol thanks to my cell phone:)
the set up was really good very happy with it a lot more corner speed than the previous set up.

wat did u change that made it better? do u run the car outdoors or indoors?

thanks mark

Island Losi 02-24-2008 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Marcos.J (Post 4201531)
lol thanks to my cell phone:)
the set up was really good very happy with it a lot more corner speed than the previous set up.

"......s....e...t.... (space) .........u.....p..... '.' ........ (submit reply)

http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/Upload/serious_sm.jpg



:D

Marcos.J 02-24-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Island Losi (Post 4201583)
"......s....e...t.... (space) .........u.....p..... '.' ........ (submit reply)

http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/Upload/serious_sm.jpg



:D

lol

Marcos.J 02-24-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mwoods (Post 4201561)
wat did u change that made it better? do u run the car outdoors or indoors?

thanks mark

i run outdoor asphalt

here is the set up!

JayBee 02-24-2008 03:12 PM

Here ya go Marcos!:D
Like I told ya yesterday I've got those Type R shocks & springs coming so finally after 3 weeks, I'll give it the shakedown on the rug this week:nod:.

Marcos.J 02-24-2008 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 4201891)
Here ya go Marcos!:D
Like I told ya yesterday I've got those Type R shocks & springs coming so finally after 3 weeks, I'll give it the shakedown on the rug this week:nod:.

nice!!! how about one with the body off!!! I can see that Core RC pack in there!!

My car was dialed today , TQ but finished second in the A main :( I always have bad luck in the main:lol:

JayBee 02-24-2008 04:03 PM

Here's a few:D

Tomradio 02-24-2008 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 4202018)
Here's a few:D


Looking good!!

JayBee 02-24-2008 04:13 PM

thanks

Marcos.J 02-24-2008 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 4202018)
Here's a few:D

very nice!!

yyhayyim 02-24-2008 07:25 PM

Had the run my trusty Type R for the FSEARA race at Royal Palm Beach today. Unfortunately, my E4 came with a right 6 deg caster block, and a left 3 deg:cry:
Had it all ready to go untill I noticed hrs before the racing, so I decided to just run the Type R instead. Spoke to Wolf today thru MDI hobby shop and he'll be priority mailing the correct parts and I should have them by this Thrusday, G-d willing:nod:

Marcos.J 02-24-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by yyhayyim (Post 4202657)
Had the run my trusty Type R for the FSEARA race at Royal Palm Beach today. Unfortunately, my E4 came with a right 6 deg caster block, and a left 3 deg:cry:
Had it all ready to go untill I noticed hrs before the racing, so I decided to just run the Type R instead. Spoke to Wolf today thru MDI hobby shop and he'll be priority mailing the correct parts and I should have them by this Thrusday, G-d willing:nod:

sorry to hear that!! If you get a chance look at my new set up for the E4 is very good!!!:nod:

and check out the shirt that i have coming :)

yyhayyim 02-25-2008 05:54 AM

I orderd an RS from Wolf, but since he cant get them in yet, what he did was he took an FS kit and converted it for me into an RS by using 2mm top deck, 2 post steering, front spool, etc...Only difference is I have the 3mm lower chassis. With this combo my E4 has more flex than my Mi3 and Type R:nod: Its not stiff at all and should be killer on the asphalt.

Only issue I had with the car was the pesky mounting my Speed Passion 10.5BL motor. It just would not fit inside the bulk heads. Instead of dremeling down the bulkheads a bit, I just slipped it in at an angle and pushed down on the endbell side and it went in without much effort:nod:

The Speed Control, I mounted it right next to the servo, and followed the ESC by the receiver, to keep the heaviest items as close to the center as possible, for better handling and steering characteristics, taking a tip from Adrian's broomstick analogy:lol:

Servo- I mounted it using spare Xray t2 servo mounts, using the servo holes in the chassis, instead of the tape the manual suggests.

Also using Yokomo BD servo saver, which is much nicer looking and much thinner than Kimbrough's.

Marcos.J 02-25-2008 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by yyhayyim (Post 4203895)
I orderd an RS from Wolf, but since he cant get them in yet, what he did was he took an FS kit and converted it for me into an RS by using 2mm top deck, 2 post steering, front spool, etc...Only difference is I have the 3mm lower chassis. With this combo my E4 has more flex than my Mi3 and Type R:nod: Its not stiff at all and should be killer on the asphalt.

Only issue I had with the car was the pesky mounting my Speed Passion 10.5BL motor. It just would not fit inside the bulk heads. Instead of dremeling down the bulkheads a bit, I just slipped it in at an angle and pushed down on the endbell side and it went in without much effort:nod:

The Speed Control, I mounted it right next to the servo, and followed the ESC by the receiver, to keep the heaviest items as close to the center as possible, for better handling and steering characteristics, taking a tip from Adrian's broomstick analogy:lol:

Servo- I mounted it using spare Xray t2 servo mounts, using the servo holes in the chassis, instead of the tape the manual suggests.

Also using Yokomo BD servo saver, which is much nicer looking and much thinner than Kimbrough's.


the kit is killer on asphalt already:nod:

jheimb4897 02-25-2008 06:10 AM

Instead of waiting for the E4JS, I broke and bought a E4RS. I can't wait. I think I am going to have an anuerism before it comes. The suspense is killing me!!!!

Now I will have my TB Evo III Surikarn(TB-02 parts fit, so it makes it a little easier to get for) for outdoor asphalt, Mi2EC for carpet, and the E4RS for indoor asphalt. But since I am mostly at the 'C,' the TM will be my primary car. I got to play with one the other day before I ordered when I went to practice at Mimi's. If the FS is as good as the RS, I am going to be very pleased!

Marcos.J 02-25-2008 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by jheimb4897 (Post 4203932)
Instead of waiting for the E4JS, I broke and bought a E4RS. I can't wait. I think I am going to have an anuerism before it comes. The suspense is killing me!!!!

Now I will have my TB Evo III Surikarn(TB-02 parts fit, so it makes it a little easier to get for) for outdoor asphalt, Mi2EC for carpet, and the E4RS for indoor asphalt. But since I am mostly at the 'C,' the TM will be my primary car. I got to play with one the other day before I ordered when I went to practice at Mimi's. If the FS is as good as the RS, I am going to be very pleased!

Im may order the FS too and run the RS top deck , i think the thicker chassis and thinner top deck will be a good combination:nod:

and on the setup that I'm running i'm not using the middle plastic brace underneath the topdeck.

yyhayyim 02-25-2008 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Marcos.J (Post 4203948)
Im may order the FS too and run the RS top deck , i think the thicker chassis and thinner top deck will be a good combination:nod:

and on the setup that I'm running i'm not using the middle plastic brace underneath the topdeck.

If you order with Wolf he'll convert your FS to an RS by swapping out top decks, putting a Spool, and other things from the RS...I'd rather have the FS bottom plate with the thin 2mm top plate from the RS. The 3mm FS chassis is much nicer and there's plenty of flex for asphalt.

I dont use that middle top deck brace either...now it flexes even more;) A couple more days till my front 3R caster block comes in and its off to the track:lol:

Weight: this car is super light!!!

With my TP4900 Lipo, Futaba servo, ESC, receiver, tires, it weighs in at: 1261g!!! With the same electronics and Lipo, my Type R weighs 1300g, and so does my Mi3...

Now I'm trying to figure out where to add lead on this car to get it 1525g ROAR/FSEARA legal:confused:

Marcos.J 02-25-2008 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by yyhayyim (Post 4204252)
If you order with Wolf he'll convert your FS to an RS by swapping out top decks, putting a Spool, and other things from the RS...I'd rather have the FS bottom plate with the thin 2mm top plate from the RS. The 3mm FS chassis is much nicer and there's plenty of flex for asphalt.

I dont use that middle top deck brace either...now it flexes even more;) A couple more days till my front 3R caster block comes in and its off to the track:lol:

Weight: this car is super light!!!

With my TP4900 Lipo, Futaba servo, ESC, receiver, tires, it weighs in at: 1238g!!! With the same electronics and Lipo, my Type R weighs 1300g, and so does my Mi3...

Now I'm trying to figure out where to add lead on this car to get it 1525g ROAR/FSEARA legal:confused:

mine weighs 1332 with the body ready to race

yyhayyim 02-25-2008 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Marcos.J (Post 4204272)
mine weighs 1332 with the body ready to race

1332g:eek: What's the weight limit at your clubs? Where are you adding weight to make the 1525g required by ROAR/FSEARA races?

Places to add weight:

1) under the battery tray by using lead strips in the battery tray holes

2) top deck

3) in front of servo

4) Battery sides

Marcos.J 02-25-2008 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by yyhayyim (Post 4204401)
1332g:eek: What's the weight limit at your clubs? Where are you adding weight to make the 1525g required by ROAR/FSEARA races?

Places to add weight:

1) under the battery tray by using lead strips in the battery tray holes

2) top deck

3) in front of servo

4) Battery sides

lol mine is not anywhere near legal weight but i have a few spots already to add the weight:sneaky:

Ill have it already figured out for this weekend:)

yyhayyim 02-25-2008 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Marcos.J (Post 4204481)
lol mine is not anywhere near legal weight but i have a few spots already to add the weight:sneaky:

Ill have it already figured out for this weekend:)

Get the weight legal so Adrian wont hold that against you when the broomstick E4 leaves him in the dust:lol:

Marcos.J 02-25-2008 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by yyhayyim (Post 4204535)
Get the weight legal so Adrian wont hold that against you when the broomstick E4 leaves him in the dust:lol:

lol after long hours of testing I came to the conclusion that a Mr.Mop swings a lot better especially when you attatch the mop bucket full of mop water on the other end.

Marcos.J 02-25-2008 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by yyhayyim (Post 4204535)
Get the weight legal so Adrian wont hold that against you when the broomstick E4 leaves him in the dust:lol:

but Adrian has alot of knowledge with cars so im sure he will figure something out that works!!

AdrianM 02-25-2008 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by yyhayyim (Post 4204535)
Get the weight legal so Adrian wont hold that against you when the broomstick E4 leaves him in the dust:lol:

It hasn't happened yet no matter what car he's driven so by all means keep it light...I don't care.

wyd 02-25-2008 12:26 PM

We want video of this grudge match!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nod:

Marcos.J 02-25-2008 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by AdrianM (Post 4204797)
It hasn't happened yet no matter what car he's driven so by all means keep it light...I don't care.

well thanks to the hack fest in the main :lol: and i hardly run with you :)

nocif13 02-25-2008 12:36 PM

my e4 in indoor
reedy 12x2 platinium and tekin r1
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jj2dLp4HA

Marcos.J 02-25-2008 02:30 PM

Thanks Mr.Potter for merging the 2 Team Magic threads together it should be alot easier for people to find all the info!

JayBee 02-25-2008 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Marcos.J (Post 4204272)
mine weighs 1332 with the body ready to race

Mine weighs in at 1296 grams ready to race....let the weigh-ins begin:lol::lol:

protc3 02-25-2008 05:02 PM

with or without tire sauce:lol:

Marcos.J 02-26-2008 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 4205442)
Mine weighs in at 1296 grams ready to race....let the weigh-ins begin:lol::lol:

sweet

nocif13 02-26-2008 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 4205442)
Mine weighs in at 1296 grams ready to race....let the weigh-ins begin:lol::lol:

good

Mine weighs in at 1400 in 5cell

gansei 02-28-2008 06:46 AM

my E4
 
My E4 after a long time.

changed parts: G4RS LightWeight Front Bumper, Hara Hard Spring Sets,

Titanum Racing Pinion, machine-cut SpurGear, 2200uF 35V condenser(ESC)



Marcos.J 02-28-2008 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by gansei (Post 4214153)
My E4 after a long time.

changed parts: G4RS LightWeight Front Bumper, Hara Hard Spring Sets,

Titanum Racing Pinion, casting SpurGear, 2200uF 35V condenser(ESC)

Nice:)

nocif13 02-28-2008 08:46 AM

hi
gansei

The e4 is not heavier with the optional aluminum kfactory home?

MARCOs

The set up sheet recordable there without printing it?

THANK

Wolf Hobbies 02-28-2008 09:01 PM

Hi All:

It is good to see that things are going well for the E4XXs. I did not want to be the first one to mentuion it but if you look at the chassis without the battery cover there is not that much carbon fiber there. It is always easy to make the car more compliant but difficult to make it more rigid. That is why we are sticking with the E4RS as the base chassis for the asphalt car. We also found that removing the two outside posts in the front makes a bigger difference than the thinner top deck. The twin arm steering system is going to be sold as a kit in the near future (next week).

My main reason for the post is that there have been some concerns raised about the internal ratio on the FS vs. the E4 and E4RS. The concern stems from the fact that you cannot use the 1 way or spool on the FS as it comes out of the box. TM assures me that the FS combo 1 way is on its way but as users remind me, the car has been out for 2 months. That is way too long to wait for the parts you need to run the car the way you want. We have come up with a solution that we hope will be acceptable to present and future users. For any FS owner that has purchased a spool or 1 way or owns an E4 and wishes to use that 1 way in his car we will send 2 17 tooth center pulleys and two E4 diff pulleys free of charge (we do ask that you pay shipping or we will just add it to your shipment at no additional charge). Additionally, if you wish to purchase a spool or 1 way for your FS we will give you the 4 pulleys free of charge. Changing these pulley will give your car the same internal ratio as the E4 so you can swap your diff for a 1 way and back at the track without having to do major surgery each time. We hope that this solution will make it possible for you to tailor your E4FS to your driving style rather than the other way around. We want to thank our customers who brought this issue to our attention and Team Magic for their part in this promotion.

Thanks

Wolf

Marcos.J 02-29-2008 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Wolf Hobbies (Post 4215798)
Hi All:

It is good to see that things are going well for the E4XXs. I did not want to be the first one to mentuion it but if you look at the chassis without the battery cover there is not that much carbon fiber there. It is always easy to make the car more compliant but difficult to make it more rigid. That is why we are sticking with the E4RS as the base chassis for the asphalt car. We also found that removing the two outside posts in the front makes a bigger difference than the thinner top deck. The twin arm steering system is going to be sold as a kit in the near future (next week).

My main reason for the post is that there have been some concerns raised about the internal ratio on the FS vs. the E4 and E4RS. The concern stems from the fact that you cannot use the 1 way or spool on the FS as it comes out of the box. TM assures me that the FS combo 1 way is on its way but as users remind me, the car has been out for 2 months. That is way too long to wait for the parts you need to run the car the way you want. We have come up with a solution that we hope will be acceptable to present and future users. For any FS owner that has purchased a spool or 1 way or owns an E4 and wishes to use that 1 way in his car we will send 2 17 tooth center pulleys and two E4 diff pulleys free of charge (we do ask that you pay shipping or we will just add it to your shipment at no additional charge). Additionally, if you wish to purchase a spool or 1 way for your FS we will give you the 4 pulleys free of charge. Changing these pulley will give your car the same internal ratio as the E4 so you can swap your diff for a 1 way and back at the track without having to do major surgery each time. We hope that this solution will make it possible for you to tailor your E4FS to your driving style rather than the other way around. We want to thank our customers who brought this issue to our attention and Team Magic for their part in this promotion.

Thanks

Wolf

That's excellent customer service!!

yyhayyim 02-29-2008 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Wolf Hobbies (Post 4215798)
For any FS owner that has purchased a spool or 1 way or owns an E4 and wishes to use that 1 way in his car we will send 2 17 tooth center pulleys and two E4 diff pulleys free of charge (we do ask that you pay shipping or we will just add it to your shipment at no additional charge). Additionally, if you wish to purchase a spool or 1 way for your FS we will give you the 4 pulleys free of charge. Changing these pulley will give your car the same internal ratio as the E4 so you can swap your diff for a 1 way and back at the track without having to do major surgery each time.

Wolf

Wow...Wolf and TM are really stepping it up! Customer service and support like this will defenitely go a long way!!!

Now, I just about an FS converted to E4RS by Wolf a week ago and it comes with he 1.88 internal drive ratio. Will the new pulleys give me the 2.05 ratio like the RS?

Marcos.J 02-29-2008 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by yyhayyim (Post 4216651)
Wow...Wolf and TM are really stepping it up! Customer service and support like this will defenitely go a long way!!!

Now, I just about an FS converted to E4RS by Wolf a week ago and it comes with he 1.88 internal drive ratio. Will the new pulleys give me the 2.05 ratio like the RS?

yes it will:nod:


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