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Grindog001 11-07-2007 12:33 PM

Hi, does anyone know how many teeth are on the center belt?

john

Black Adder 11-08-2007 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Customworksking (Post 3839696)
I like all the pic's ,but why show em ? I want to see lap times ver's all the other cars pic's mean zero in my book .....IMOP

This is a brand new concept. Give it some time and it will be as fast or even faster as the competition.

gansei 11-08-2007 09:58 AM

E4 tip
 
1. stebil interference with sus-arm

-> use 1mm washer.

http://pds50.cafe.daum.net/image/12/.../47334b0470453

http://pds50.cafe.daum.net/image/6/c.../47334b04adc7f



2. front bumper support cause up-stop.

-> cut support

http://pds50.cafe.daum.net/image/12/.../47334b04ec06d


3. rear-arm interference with rear-hub

-> cut rear-hub diagonal line.

http://pds50.cafe.daum.net/image/1/c.../47334b05369e9

RC MARKET 11-08-2007 10:10 AM

Good tips

gansei 11-10-2007 10:56 AM

E4 Movie
 
E4 Movie in highway circuit (yellow body)

my rear wheel was broken. (it(tire) was used in Nitro car)

so E4 go unstable in back-straight.

http://pds48.cafe.daum.net/image/8/c.../4735defa2ba45



E4, LRT TC, Novak 3.5 brushless, gear ratio 8.67:1

sweep grip, No warmer, Mush-More 32 tire,

Much-More Slient Charger, Much-More 4500 NI-MH Battery (6 cells)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyf8wPnFIkQ

RC MARKET 11-11-2007 07:19 AM

K Factory
new E4 optional parts
TC Motor Cooling Head & Thermal Pad E4 Alum

$$$... 11-12-2007 05:05 PM

I've just finished builing my E4, and I was pretty impressed with the ease at which it went together, just one little concern, the centre belt is pretty tight. I expected a little bit of extra resistance in the drive train over my previous car, but this feels excessive, anyone else had a prob with this?

black-knight 11-12-2007 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by $$$... (Post 3858875)
I've just finished builing my E4, and I was pretty impressed with the ease at which it went together, just one little concern, the centre belt is pretty tight. I expected a little bit of extra resistance in the drive train over my previous car, but this feels excessive, anyone else had a prob with this?

Can you release tension on the middle belt tensioner?

$$$... 11-12-2007 06:57 PM

I've already taken it out, just the belt is a bit tight, will prob loosen when I run it a few times, just wanted to know if anyone else noticed this.

Marcos.J 11-12-2007 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by $$$... (Post 3859375)
I've already taken it out, just the belt is a bit tight, will prob loosen when I run it a few times, just wanted to know if anyone else noticed this.

soak the belts overnight with WD40:nod:

Din Viesel 11-14-2007 07:08 AM

can anyone tell me if there is a US supplier for this car? It looks like a nice car. Does anyone in the United States have one yet? if so what are your thoughts?

Thanks steve

Francis M. 11-14-2007 07:19 AM

Has anyone tried this car with a stock motor or 19 turn?

gansei 11-14-2007 09:08 AM

Li-Po on E4
 
Li-Po (4800ma) on E4.

187g light weight effect. (i used futaba 9451 servo)

0.2V upgraded power.

http://pds49.cafe.daum.net/image/9/c...2b7078cc1&.JPG


http://pds49.cafe.daum.net/image/8/c...2b708c530&.JPG


http://pds49.cafe.daum.net/image/16/...2b70a2c7e&.JPG

azrael_nite 11-14-2007 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Francis M. (Post 3865454)
Has anyone tried this car with a stock motor or 19 turn?

I run this car with a Novak 13.5 brushless- stock equivalent. Car runs great.

Francis M. 11-14-2007 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by azrael_nite (Post 3865863)
I run this car with a Novak 13.5 brushless- stock equivalent. Car runs great.

Does the car accelarate good with the 13.5 compared to other cars?

Local racer 11-14-2007 10:09 AM

Intrest in the Us
 
It have heard that Team Magic may have found a New distributor in the Us for some of there products,I will post more news as I here it.I now they are a main stream distributor.

Din Viesel 11-14-2007 10:18 AM

the only negative thing I can see with the car....is the electronics (especially the servo) hanging over the side of chassis. I would worry about being T-Boned and having the ESC, Receiver or Servo damaged. Other than that, I like the overall design! I would definately like to get my hands on one to see how it handles on carpet with foams.

Customworksking 11-14-2007 10:25 AM

car
 
the key is support I will not buy 1 till it has parts support and tech

Din Viesel 11-14-2007 10:36 AM

also can anyone tell me the thickness of the chassis!?

azrael_nite 11-14-2007 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Francis M. (Post 3865454)
Has anyone tried this car with a stock motor or 19 turn?


Originally Posted by Francis M. (Post 3865873)
Does the car accelarate good with the 13.5 compared to other cars?

In my opinion just as good. No difference between them. If your wondering about the transmission binding due to the 3 belts... it's really not a problem.

$$$... 11-14-2007 02:55 PM

Has anyone run in 19T? whats a good start point for gear ratio? Running a Komodo on a med size asphalt track

energyracing 11-14-2007 03:40 PM

Nice Chassis, however the success will simply be based on solid distibution and Hobby shop shelf space.

black-knight 11-14-2007 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Din Viesel (Post 3865984)
also can anyone tell me the thickness of the chassis!?

2.5mm bottom deck.

Customworksking 11-14-2007 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by energyracing (Post 3866863)
Nice Chassis, however the success will simply be based on solid distibution and Hobby shop shelf space.

:nod::nod::nod::nod::nod:agree:nod::nod::nod::tire ::eek:

Customworksking 11-14-2007 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by gansei (Post 3865772)

I am looking for 4600 6cell packs where did u get your's if u don't mind:blush:

bender 11-14-2007 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Din Viesel (Post 3865937)
the only negative thing I can see with the car....is the electronics (especially the servo) hanging over the side of chassis. I would worry about being T-Boned and having the ESC, Receiver or Servo damaged. Other than that, I like the overall design! I would definately like to get my hands on one to see how it handles on carpet with foams.

This is not the first time I have heard this mentioned and to be honest I'm a bit confused by it :confused:

You have to remember that the chassis on the E4 is substantially narrower than any other TC on the market, so whilst the electrics do overhang the chassis a bit, the end result is that they are still closer to the centreline of the car than the electrics on "normal" TC's.

What this means is that if another car managed to t-bone you in such a way as to reach the electrics on this car, then in all likelyhood that would be the least of your problems, as the impact would've been massive to do this, and it's likely that both cars would be quite damaged ;)

ShadowAu 11-14-2007 05:20 PM

The only thing I am hoping for is that they make some alloy or harder material steering pieces... I find the steering arms that mount to the top chassis plate flex quite a lot compared to what I am used to

bender 11-14-2007 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by ShadowAu (Post 3867157)
The only thing I am hoping for is that they make some alloy or harder material steering pieces... I find the steering arms that mount to the top chassis plate flex quite a lot compared to what I am used to

I don't think that is the steering arms flexing themselves, but rather the fact that they are screwed into the lower plastic mounting plate by two bolts which are unsupported at the top.

I think they could easily use longer bolts with a carbon brace running across the top of the steerig arms and this would stiffen up this area considerably. The carbon brace could also be screwed into the unused centre hole in the lower plastic mounting plate which would make the whole assembly very rigid.

gansei 11-14-2007 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Customworksking (Post 3866909)
I am looking for 4600 6cell packs where did u get your's if u don't mind:blush:

it is a E-NINE 4600 Cell.

i buy it in korea battery distributor.
http://pds50.cafe.daum.net/image/2/c.../47334b02d0c8f

http://pds50.cafe.daum.net/image/14/.../47334b03459a7

ShadowAu 11-15-2007 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by bender (Post 3867249)
I don't think that is the steering arms flexing themselves, but rather the fact that they are screwed into the lower plastic mounting plate by two bolts which are unsupported at the top.

I think they could easily use longer bolts with a carbon brace running across the top of the steerig arms and this would stiffen up this area considerably. The carbon brace could also be screwed into the unused centre hole in the lower plastic mounting plate which would make the whole assembly very rigid.

Well even if they replaced the plastic mount with an alloy one that would have to improve the flex a lot

heavy 11-15-2007 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by bender (Post 3867249)
I don't think that is the steering arms flexing themselves, but rather the fact that they are screwed into the lower plastic mounting plate by two bolts which are unsupported at the top.

I think they could easily use longer bolts with a carbon brace running across the top of the steerig arms and this would stiffen up this area considerably. The carbon brace could also be screwed into the unused centre hole in the lower plastic mounting plate which would make the whole assembly very rigid.

Jason do you have one of these cars ?

azrael_nite 11-15-2007 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by bender (Post 3867249)
I don't think that is the steering arms flexing themselves, but rather the fact that they are screwed into the lower plastic mounting plate by two bolts which are unsupported at the top.

I think they could easily use longer bolts with a carbon brace running across the top of the steerig arms and this would stiffen up this area considerably. The carbon brace could also be screwed into the unused centre hole in the lower plastic mounting plate which would make the whole assembly very rigid.

I myself have not noticed any problems with the steering arms flexing. Steering on this car seems to be great- nice and smooth. Here's a link to a site that might have a tip if your having problems with the steering? I can't read it... it's in some other language.

http://www.rchome.com.tw/cgi-bin/top...art=108&show=0

Looks like they put a washer and a screw on top.

azrael_nite 11-15-2007 10:51 AM

Springs?
 
What brand springs work with this car? They're a little on the short side so my old xray springs won't work.

I had some springs that worked that came from an old trinity reflex that worked. What are you guys using? What brand and weight?

razzor 11-15-2007 11:35 AM

TOP Racing springs are a similar length to the TM ones.

Din Viesel 11-15-2007 01:12 PM

Whats is there to be confused about?:rolleyes:
It does not matter how close the electrics are to the centerline of the chassis!! The only thing protecting your electronics and that of the front end of another car.....is the LEXAN body!!! So I don't understand where the confusion is! If you get hit in the side of the car, the body will be pushed into the electonics.:D




Originally Posted by bender (Post 3867124)
This is not the first time I have heard this mentioned and to be honest I'm a bit confused by it :confused:

You have to remember that the chassis on the E4 is substantially narrower than any other TC on the market, so whilst the electrics do overhang the chassis a bit, the end result is that they are still closer to the centreline of the car than the electrics on "normal" TC's.

What this means is that if another car managed to t-bone you in such a way as to reach the electrics on this car, then in all likelyhood that would be the least of your problems, as the impact would've been massive to do this, and it's likely that both cars would be quite damaged ;)


Syber Serulean 11-15-2007 05:29 PM

So did the 3 belt idea work out good for those that have used this? I may me in the market for a new TC soon and i always like being unique :)

azrael_nite 11-15-2007 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by razzor (Post 3869923)
TOP Racing springs are a similar length to the TM ones.

Hey, Got any idea where I can order from? any links?

Thanks

Lycan 11-16-2007 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by azrael_nite (Post 3869594)
I myself have not noticed any problems with the steering arms flexing. Steering on this car seems to be great- nice and smooth. Here's a link to a site that might have a tip if your having problems with the steering? I can't read it... it's in some other language.

http://www.rchome.com.tw/cgi-bin/top...art=108&show=0

Looks like they put a washer and a screw on top.

2nd and 3rd pictures are showing the rear shock tower. Looks like its almost doubled in thickness. Could be two glued together. Hard to tell.

Also, see the alloy rear hub carriers. Nice.

GreaseMonkey 11-16-2007 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by azrael_nite (Post 3871863)
Hey, Got any idea where I can order from? any links?

Thanks

Not sure what country you're in so I'll just post the contact page for TOP racing. You should be able to find a distributor in your area here:
http://www.top-racing.jp/contact.asp?lang=EN

Syber Serulean 11-16-2007 12:28 AM

anyone know how this car performs with a Stock motor? Any efficiency issues or stuff like that?

what about a 13.5 brushless?


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