I hope so yes,[Borat] I like !!![/Borat]:D

You definately need to make the orion 4800 in your car if you want to compete with the Losi type r. Losi seem to have a great design that cover all bases. The future is on Lipo's, their advantages are too great to ignore. I like your design a lot too but again...LIPO. The suspension arm look great their lenght indicates that this car should be easier to drive on asphalt than the Losi. Keep up the good work. Another suggestion, I think you should use carbon tubes instead of aluminum. Their more rigid and less likely to tweak your arms on a hard hit. You could adjust rigidity by offering different tube wall thicknesses.

I get the feeling that most Li-Po's will fit in the car (With maybe a spacer or two added here and there)
It's a case now of which one's WONT fit! Or which ones we can't get to fit.

I really think with the flexibility we have on layout that a "Battery mount kit" for Li-Po battery's is not out of the question.
The car is not like others that are so restricted in space. The third belt design lends some considerable flexibility in all area's of layout............including holding larger Li-Po battery's !!

British Menace

Us spec
 

Uk yes the first kit to arrive was desighned for the world which we all now runs on rubber tires,team magic has payed close attention to the touring car market and are hard at work on a Us spec car that will be dighned around high bite foam tire racing.

I am sure they will do the same for lipo and brushless

in my humble opinion, one of the best features of this car's design is keeping the heaviest components (motor, battery) centralized in the car. it is advantageous not only for handling reasons, but also so that the car is will still be balanced when lipo batts are more widely used. it would only make sense to build the car to fit lipo batts. all other current chassis without this design face a weight distribution issue when using lipo batts.
i know, i know - its easy to do by adding a few washers, but if its easy why not incorporate it into the design now before releasing the car?

i don't use lipo batts right now, and my race club does not yet, but it seems to be looming on the horizon... i am ready to buy a new chassis, but i hesitate to buy any car today that i'll have to add weights to balance, or 'hack' to be ready for the future. i look at the other manufacturers chassis just released in the past month or so and it makes me scratch my head why they still stay with the old, non-lipo friendly layout!!
anyway, this chassis design is really appealing and has a lot of potentional - i really like it and look forward to its release!!

I don't think they have paid that close attension.
The magority where I come from use Brushless and Li-Po batteries now.
They are all getting increasingly frustrated why tracks and governing bodies are not switching to these systems.

And aslo, as said, why oh why bring out a new car that does not have provision for running both???

Rubber tires is also in the magority here.....thank goodness!!

I think that, mainly because of the design, TM will incorporate Li-Po's by having some kind of battery mount kit...............here's hoping.

Or maybe they will incorporate it in any Carpet/U'S spec car. Although Like I have said, Rubber tires I think is the future here too!

We'll see.

British Menace

okay if you can gurantee me that the E4 will take the orion or trackpower 'brick' typ Li-Po & be safe with the battery connections under the carbon top deck in racing conditions then i'll buy one before Xmas .......

but that does leave the question being the Novak GTB speedo i have (yes it's big & No i'm not buying another Make:D) sticking quite away out of the side of the chassis (being so narrow some what :cool:) being unprotected form side impact from fellow racers (yes it does happen :lol:) more so down in the middle land heats

so it's is really border line if i get it still

product i like

will my bit's fit on is another matter :confused::ha::lol:

I wouldn't worry about the gtb too much, I've seen it install in a Losi and they seem to run just fine on it's side.

As porsche928gs says, I wouldn't worry too much about the GTB Mr. Jolly.
Looking at the layout. I think there's lots of scope for changing postions and different types of batteries that will be able to be used. Albeit, until TM does come out with some 'battery mount kit' for the bigger battery packs, we may have to do this ourselves???!!!

But either way, I think there's going to be room.

When they get here. Then we'll see.

I really like the car. I think it'll do well mainly due to it's balanced layout as someone has said already.

British Menace

New Dampers
 

Also.
It's going to have some of the best shocks I have ever seen on an RC car!!

I am assuming these are the same damper units as fitted to the Limited Edition G4.
If so. You wont find a better shock damper on the market!!

British Menace

hope so coz i'm getting pissed off with my Xray ones :blush::lol:

I'm really loving the layout and looks of this car. A US spec version would be great, or at least a 3mm upper deck and chassis. Does anyone know if he rear diff will fit in the front?

Thats a good question on the diff!

It would be great if the rear ball diff can fit in the front.

I think the U.S spec car could well be an 'upgrade kit' for want of a better phrase.

But I think for now, this is all we have.
Also I think the foam car is declining and the rubber clad races are on the rise. Just like the Li-Po and Brushless stuff.

British Menace

Bitish the Us spec car will be a diffrent kit form what I was told,and I am sorry to say but in the Us foam is still the biggest with no sighn of that changing right now.

There is a small push for rubber but they are not having much luck,but they are offering some rubber tire classes at some of the larger races.

That would be great if they are going with a new kit for foam class.

The push in rubber class must be waht I'm seeing around the MidWest. This country is so big, it's hard to get a real feel of whats happening nationally.

I learn something every day. Thanks Local.

It's all good stuff though with TM getting involved in the Electric scene, I new they would be trying things new and inovative. The guys around here, are really getting excited about this one.

British Menace

I see people talking about a foam tyre version?? I hope so because I'm struggling to see how foam tyres will fit on the rear with the current arms shock mounts, width wise as well as diameter wise.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...dnz/E4pic7.jpg

No. As has been said. The car is designed for rubber class.
Since the magority in the world run rubber class.
They had to start somewhere.....lol

British Menace

I noticed too foams wont even fit with the rear arms used now.

For the diff, the rear pulley rides in the centerline, the front rides totally to the left of the car in between the bulkheads.

But, TM will make a front diff aswell.

:sneaky:

Hey something else I noticed from this particular photo................
That reae sway bar looks quite thick don't you think?
Looks to me about 2.3 or 2.5mm. Just guessing though. What do you think?

British Menace

Although I do like the sway bar mount!! Looks very secure. ;) :cool:

Foam tires
 

If you go to the early spy shots the car has foam tires mounted on it,dont get me wrong I love racing in general I am just saying that Team Magic is paying attention to all the markets.

Missed you at Toledo this weekend Tony. Ted made the B with his G4S, Ben had problems.

So when does it hot the streets, how much, is this the end all for TC's. Looks pretty stout. I really hate to drop some serious coin on a new ride and have a newer version come out before I scuff my first set of tires.:D

It should be out by late october maybe early November.
Price will be around the $400 mark. (I was originally told $385 but Nikko came on from TM and said around $400.............:blush:)

They spent some considerable time and money(for a small firm like TM they spent alot) on developing the layout and the car. The 3 belt configuration means you have alot of scope with layout. They tried many different layouts and settled for this one.

As with ALL cars, there will be upgrades, there will be design changes and maybe evolutions. Thats the market and hobby we're in.

When? ........ who knows. I know K Factory are working on upgraded parts as we speek!!

British Menace

I was sad I could not make it to Toledo. I really wanted to go but I had .............shall I say, scheduling problems.:sneaky:

Great news on Ted, bad luck on Ben.

Will get back to you soon. How did you do? Did you enjoy the racing/car?

British Menace

I really like the fact that the aluminum is not some funny color too. I run a HPI product and all the aluminum I can get is purple!! Now it has actually grown on me but other people are like purple!!:lol:

So true. No real 'frills' with Team Magic.
They used to do a cool blue anodizing. But they seam to have phased that out.

British Menace

Bump..............................

2 years on and he's still on about bloomin' lipos...lol

cant see why hacking tc5 its got one of the highest top decks around, could fit my real car under there..

Lol......................:sneaky::)

TM E4
 

Hay Pete this new E4 should be your new car ! ;)
Maybe you can get one for me and send it over now that the US dollor is at its all time low ! Thank's Pete . . . . :)

I wonder if team magic has any pics of the car with a brushless system installed?

......I know this is kind of a late response, but oh well.

I would rather have the belts hanging a little off to the side than have the motor way out by the wheel like it is on my TC5. I have already had the endbell of my motor bashed in by a t-boning.

I don't think I've seen any?:rolleyes:

British Menace

Hay Menace I found a few !

Here u go Francis ! look's :cool: and check out the rear view and side I'll see if I can get more 2morrow ....

Thanks Kahuna, the official photos from TM actually made it seem like there wasn't enough space for a BL speedo. Your photos cleared that up.
:nod:

hey kahuna,

with dollar at all time low, it would more expensive for you.....

630$ = £315 = cheap for us kinda

$630 isnt the street price.

Streetprice is around $400.:D

£200 ill defo get one

OK Pete could you see how much one will cost ! ;)
we wont see them till late Oct. or Nov . . . .

me . . . .