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Old 01-01-2011, 04:54 PM   #3556
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I think you will get anti squad if you put the RF Hingh Pin Mount like this ^^.
I also think that this will reduce the front grip during acceleration, but I will test it.
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I think you will get anti squad if you put the RF Hingh Pin Mount like this ^^.
I also think that this will reduce the front grip during acceleration, but I will test it.
That's my (inexpert) thinking too - the difference between adding anti-dive and taking away anti-squat is if the car is accelerating or decelerating.

Anti-dive has greatest effect in deceleration, anti-squat when accelerating.
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That's my (inexpert) thinking too - the difference between adding anti-dive and taking away anti-squat is if the car is accelerating or decelerating.

Anti-dive has greatest effect in deceleration, anti-squat when accelerating.
The effect that I am after is to make the car a little less reactive or edgy decelerating into a corner. As I get back on the throttle I want all the steering to come back.

My current setup thinking:

Anti-dive = Will cause the front end to wash out as it will take 1-2deg of caster out of the car when I am only running the 3deg blocks. To counter act this affect I would need to install the 6deg blocks which would put me back to where I started or potentially having more reactive caster.

Anti-Squat = Decrease steering response off power entering a corner as less weight is transfered forward. On-power steering is increased when the throttle is applied due to less weight transfering to the rear.

The only problem that I have with my thinking is nobody runs anti-squat on carpet while anti-dive seems normal.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:21 PM   #3559
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You generate a lot of grip on carpet specially when the traction comes up Having anti-dive prevent the car having too much grip when cornering so the car won't suffer from under steer.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:26 PM   #3560
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Your asphalt setup should work on carpet with very small changes To get it dialed this assuming you are running rubber tire.
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Old 01-01-2011, 11:26 PM   #3561
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Hey kim,
here's a couple of pics for the tower spacer we discussed.
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:39 AM   #3562
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Just curious the use of this tower spacer and where it goes on the existing car.
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Old 01-04-2011, 05:41 PM   #3563
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Just curious the use of this tower spacer and where it goes on the existing car.
Here are a couple of TOP SECRET spy shots of the prototype spacer on my car.
It's used to set the rear shock tower further back on the chassis. Early tests have shown that it increases stability and transfers the wings downforce more efficiently to the suspension because it puts the body mounts closer to the rear wing.

I will have aluminum versions cut by the end of the week.
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Nice Rick man your good.. Bring it this weekend for us to test..

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here's a couple of pics for the tower spacer we discussed.
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We have tested that moving the shock tower further back and mounting the shock inside it stablelized the rear end of the car on the straight-line this help the rear end to be more planted specially if your running mod.

We have also tested it on boosted 17.5 with very good results. The car carry a lot more corner speed without breaking the rear end loose. We got this idea from top photon.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:14 PM   #3566
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I have another part in mind that I hope to have a prototype ready by the next race.
I don't want to let the cat out just yet but it will be good for later in the season.
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Nice Rick man your good.. Bring it this weekend for us to test..
I'll bring it with your battery tray as long as it doesn't rain again.
I'm going to make about six spacers for the first run.
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Spill it out Rick..

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I have another part in mind that I hope to have a prototype ready by the next race.
I don't want to let the cat out just yet but it will be good for later in the season.
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Shame on you
You make us curious but won't tell what it will be untill later this year???

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I don't want to let the cat out just yet but it will be good for later in the season.
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Shame on you
You make us curious but won't tell what it will be untill later this year???

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No,No, just need to wait till I'm sure it works. That's all...
I hinted that it's related to later in the season because it incorporates a fan.
I hope to have a plastic prototype by this weekend and then I will post pictures soon after.
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