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Old 11-11-2009, 07:07 PM   #2671
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Solara:
Glueing up the tire side wall will give even less traction if the car is already loose. It's a low grip carpet condition issue, not high grip...

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I just suppose you run rubber tires, right? If so, you can also try some softer tire insert (inner) and get the shock oil grade & springs a bit stiffer. It should allow the tire to "tweak" a bit more and then, give some more general traction.
Other thing, try to adapt a correct Dual rate value and don't hesitate to reduce the steering servo speed. (forward speed reduced up to 30% and normal back to neutral speed). Give it a try and tell us how things go.

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Old 11-11-2009, 11:10 PM   #2672
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Any of you JS owners got a manual you could copy and email me or snailmail to me. Willing to pay you for your trouble. started tinkering with my new/used toy and really want to get her going but feel more comfortable if i know what I'm doing and whats supposed to go where. Send me a PM. Thanks !
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PM me your email address, I have manual, I can try to scan it
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:37 AM   #2674
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Does anybody know how to improve E4RS' shocks? I found the shocks don't bounce back to half and move quite slow (higher friction?) compared with my E4JS' shocks and Tamiya TRF shocks. They all have two holes piston and TM #300 shock oil in them, E4RS' shocks just seem to be stuck at 1/3 way. Is there any way to improve? Or any other brand you would like to recommend?
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Old 11-14-2009, 03:10 PM   #2675
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Hi,

thank you very much for your tips. I will try this next weekend.

@Slide: yes Im driving rubber tires, but only the LRP VTEC CPX, because other are not allowed
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:47 PM   #2676
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Does anybody know how to improve E4RS' shocks? I found the shocks don't bounce back to half and move quite slow (higher friction?) compared with my E4JS' shocks and Tamiya TRF shocks. They all have two holes piston and TM #300 shock oil in them, E4RS' shocks just seem to be stuck at 1/3 way. Is there any way to improve? Or any other brand you would like to recommend?
I fixed the shocks on my E4 by switching to the Tamiya TRF shocks. What a big difference. On the plus side, the Team Magic springs work great on the Tamiyas.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:39 PM   #2677
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Hey guys,


Very good results with the E4 for now, very very happy.

My car needs very little steering to perform good, just 40% or so, BUT ... im not comfortable not being able to have more.

Im still getting a very annoying high level of vibrations when i steer under throttle passed 50% rate.

Its amazing, i mean, its a HIGH vibration, like the car being destroying itself lol ...

I tried different brand of tires to check if its due to tire balance or rubbing and nothing, BUT without tires it doesnt have that problem ... anyone with any tip or opinion that could help ?

On very tight layouts i have to drift the car a little in order to turn tight, and i dont want that anymore ...

I though was my wheel rubbing the shocks or something, moved all on front side of the car, even without shocks !!! and still vibrates like hell ...

thanks in advance,

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Old 11-15-2009, 07:46 PM   #2678
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Had to edit my post. Read your post again and you say that WITHOUT wheels/tires everything operates fine. Have you tested car on a stand with wheels/tires and without? Have you checked hub bearings ? Does vibration happen at all 4 wheels ?
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:20 AM   #2679
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Had to edit my post. Read your post again and you say that WITHOUT wheels/tires everything operates fine. Have you tested car on a stand with wheels/tires and without? Have you checked hub bearings ? Does vibration happen at all 4 wheels ?


Without tires seems to be all right, its only front tires passing 40% steering rate.

First i though was tires rubbing something, but no marks nor any touch nothing, then though maybe its balancing the tires, i tried 4 brand of tires and the problem persist ...

Right now im out of my country will be arriving in 2 weeks, i will take a video of the SHOCKY vibration, its scary !!!, in fact i though maybe its only on wheels on air, but if i put for example 60% rate of steering and the car on the track, as soon as i hit a curve its screaming ppppppppprrrrrrrrrrrr vibrating ...

thanks for any tip ... i just ordered a full set of bearings just to try out ...

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What do you guys do to free up the E4?
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:08 AM   #2681
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Free up what? The drivetrain? Comared to my xxx-s it's definitely better and like any belt car it comes down to keeping things clean, checking bearings and watching belt tension. Must admit I haven't run this car yet but I don't expect the drivetrain to be an issue. The xxxs is still a runner and I'm hoping the handling of the E4 will be more to my liking.
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Glueing up the tire side wall will give even less traction if the car is already loose. It's a low grip carpet condition issue, not high grip...

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Sorry, I meant check your tire and make sure they are not UNGLUE from the rim, happened to me before...glue the rear tire back and they are back on normal.
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Does anybody know how to improve E4RS' shocks? I found the shocks don't bounce back to half and move quite slow (higher friction?) compared with my E4JS' shocks and Tamiya TRF shocks. They all have two holes piston and TM #300 shock oil in them, E4RS' shocks just seem to be stuck at 1/3 way. Is there any way to improve? Or any other brand you would like to recommend?
Tamiya TRF shocks...then TC5 lower spring plate, use the Team Magic lower shock cap, then you can use all the regular (not shorter) springs for TC.

Tamiya TRF is the best shocks in the business.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:21 PM   #2684
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Tamiya also has nice alloy lower shock retainers that work nicely. I'm using those on my car. Finally had a chance to use the new set up in race conditions and the TRF shocks made a big difference (That was the only real change in the set up, same oil and everything else.)
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Tamiya also has nice alloy lower shock retainers that work nicely. I'm using those on my car. Finally had a chance to use the new set up in race conditions and the TRF shocks made a big difference (That was the only real change in the set up, same oil and everything else.)
Are you using the TM springs or the Tamiya springs? Which shock retainers are you speaking of?
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