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Old 03-31-2013, 05:42 PM
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What servos is everyone running in their minis? I just bought 3 plus have one already here. Mine will be more rally than on road if that matters.
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Guys sorry one more question about the Diffs
I was looking for some shims that Jim from monkeyracing suggested for the gear diff rebuild, and can't seem to find any, so Im just gonna get a Ball Diff and I see that Tamiya has two listed as TA03s
the 53070 and 53267
It looks as if the 267 is just a newer version of the 070
Any opinions on which one I should go foror are they both basicaaly the same?
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:49 AM
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Hi,

the 53267 includes some additional 0,4 module gears for the Ta03, which you do not need for a Mini. Price is (in Germany) nearly identical, so you can order both sets, doesn´t matter.

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Old 04-01-2013, 11:04 AM
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[QUOTE=fvrr;11994506]What servos is everyone running in their minis? I just bought 3 plus have one already here. Mine will be more rally than on road if that matters.[/QUOTE

Actually, it matters more whether it's a M03 or 05. 03 takes a standard size servo. 05 can be fitted with a wider range of servos, but IMO a standard or midprofile is best.

[QUOTE=KA2AEV;11996767]Guys sorry one more question about the Diffs
I was looking for some shims that Jim from monkeyracing suggested for the gear diff rebuild, and can't seem to find any, so Im just gonna get a Ball Diff and I see that Tamiya has two listed as TA03s
the 53070 and 53267
It looks as if the 267 is just a newer version of the 070
Any opinions on which one I should go foror are they both basicaaly the same?
Mike[/QUOTE

The 53070 is the Manta Ray diff, the 53267 is the TA03 diff. Similar, but different. Now there may be pundits who will say that one is superior to the other and pontificate in great detail why, but I defy anyone to be able to tell if a Mini has a Manta Ray diff or a TA03 diff, by driving it.

Now, having said that, I do prefer the TA03 diff only cause it's easier to build. The TA03 diff has a one piece thrust bearing and the last Manta Ray diff in my experience has a thrust bearing you have to assemble. Drop one of those tiny thrust bearing balls and you're up the creek without a canoe or paddle.

Tamiya used to sell the gear diff shims as a separate part. Jim aka monkeyracing posted the part number a while ago. I'm sure if you all ask him nicely, he would post it again. As for me, I've never built gear diff that was satisfactory. Not the gear diffs fault, just my inability to build one. If the diff is snug enough, it's usually "rough". If by accident, it's snug and smooth, after a couple of months or so of running, it's become too loose. I give up.
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On the 54000 shocks, what are you guys using for a point of reference for length measurement? Eye to eye, or overall end to end?
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Overall, end to end.
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[QUOTE=Granpa;11997039]
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What servos is everyone running in their minis? I just bought 3 plus have one already here. Mine will be more rally than on road if that matters.[/QUOTE

Actually, it matters more whether it's a M03 or 05. 03 takes a standard size servo. 05 can be fitted with a wider range of servos, but IMO a standard or midprofile is best.
Thank you sir, I actually have 2 03 and 2 05's. Now a new question, my regular hard pack lipos won't fit, my orion 3200 fits except it's a tad bit too long. What hard pack 2s are you guys running?
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[QUOTE=fvrr;11997838]
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Thank you sir, I actually have 2 03 and 2 05's. Now a new question, my regular hard pack lipos won't fit, my orion 3200 fits except it's a tad bit too long. What hard pack 2s are you guys running?
Im can fit Team orion 2400 rocket pack and reedy 2400 and 3000mah wolf packs.
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[QUOTE=fvrr;11997838]
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Thank you sir, I actually have 2 03 and 2 05's. Now a new question, my regular hard pack lipos won't fit, my orion 3200 fits except it's a tad bit too long. What hard pack 2s are you guys running?
I use the PEAK 4200 2s 45c Lipo fits perfect in my car. For the TCS race do we have to run the part on the chassis that holds the esc and rx, and do we need to run stock servo savers?

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Old 04-01-2013, 04:30 PM
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[QUOTE=fvrr;11997838]
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Thank you sir, I actually have 2 03 and 2 05's. Now a new question, my regular hard pack lipos won't fit, my orion 3200 fits except it's a tad bit too long. What hard pack 2s are you guys running?
They are all a little too long. The Peak 4200 Powermax Sport pack is a pretty decent battery. They are about $35 so they don't break the budget either and are widely available.

It is not that the packs are too long, but that the wires come out of the end of the pack instead of the top that is the problem. I've posted this before, but so far haven't seen a better solution. Use the M05 battery retainer on the right side of the car, offset it with 6mm of spacers and longer screws. Use the M03 retainer on the left. This will offset the battery 6mm to the right and balance out the motor a bit and will give the battery wires more clearance on the left.
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http://www.speedtechhobbies.com/inde...roduct_id=1410 looks like back ordered at the moment. As far as servos, you guys think a hitec 645 is enough?
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[QUOTE=Granpa;11997039]
Originally Posted by fvrr

The 53070 is the Manta Ray diff, the 53267 is the TA03 diff. Similar, but different. Now there may be pundits who will say that one is superior to the other and pontificate in great detail why, but I defy anyone to be able to tell if a Mini has a Manta Ray diff or a TA03 diff, by driving it.

Now, having said that, I do prefer the TA03 diff only cause it's easier to build. The TA03 diff has a one piece thrust bearing and the last Manta Ray diff in my experience has a thrust bearing you have to assemble. Drop one of those tiny thrust bearing balls and you're up the creek without a canoe or paddle.
not sure if the thrust bearing balls on the Manta Ray are removable from the plate they're attached to... at least based on the pictures i saw. pretty much looks the same as the thrust bearings off the F103 (3 piece unit)...

interesting thing though are the outdrives as they look harder than the one from the TA03 diff (black vs silver)... anyone can confirm if the one's off the Manta Ray are steel?
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From the Pix I saw they look to be steel also, but what quality steel I have no idea
Like RubiRacer said the prices are pretty much identical so Im going to see which one I can get easier
Thanks Guys Again for all the input
I'll report back when we are done!
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KA2AEV
Guys sorry one more question about the Diffs
I was looking for some shims that Jim from monkeyracing suggested for the gear diff rebuild, and can't seem to find any,
Tamiya number 12300010. Loads of suppliers over here and cheap as french fries.
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[QUOTE=fvrr;11997838]
Originally Posted by Granpa

Thank you sir, I actually have 2 03 and 2 05's. Now a new question, my regular hard pack lipos won't fit, my orion 3200 fits except it's a tad bit too long. What hard pack 2s are you guys running?
Intellect 3800. Fits great with the standard battery holders, no offsetting required.



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