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Old 04-30-2008, 09:22 AM
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Im trying to find a blue tamiya carstand.i can only find the red ones?.
Anybody know where i can source one? thanks
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:50 PM
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Tryhard is correct, where it says "full" i was referring to my shock rebound. As for the rear toe i made a little error....should have been a XA block which equals 3 degrees . As for droop, i measure it a different way the some people. The way i do this is by measuring ride height, then i raise the chassis till the tires barely touch and re-measure the ride height. The difference in the measurements is my amount of droop. So if i have 5 mm ride height and my second measurement is 7.5mm then i will have 2.5mm of droop. Hope this clarifys things!
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:31 PM
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So does the 416 use the same arms as the tb evo iv? was just browsing tamiya usa really thinking about getting a 416 and was looking up the different part numbers to see if i could order spares while waiting for the car to come off back order and under spare parts for 416 is lists evo iv arms.

also is all i need to have a spool the front direct coupler? or is there anything else i need for spool?
any weak links i should change out from the get go?

thanks a bunch in advance, i was reading pages and pages of this thread and started to get a headache lol

oh and last thing any word on when the car will be available again?
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:36 PM
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Yes the 416 does use the Evo IV Short Reversable Arms, though there not what you get in the kit, everyone is using the short arms on the 416 though.

Look at Ed Clarks (Try Hards Website) www.thard.co.uk. It has all you need to know on there, for what you need for the spool, to the parts you should keep stock of.

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http://www.thard.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=29
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Old 04-30-2008, 06:14 PM
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Thanks!!!! What a great site
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by steveonamission View Post
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Yes the 416 does use the Evo IV Short Reversable Arms, though there not what you get in the kit, everyone is using the short arms on the 416 though.

Look at Ed Clarks (Try Hards Website) www.thard.co.uk. It has all you need to know on there, for what you need for the spool, to the parts you should keep stock of.

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wrong... The 416 uses the Evo IV Reversible Suspension. The SHORT Reversible Suspension comes with the Evo V or TA-05IFS-R. You can see the difference very simply: The LONG Arms has a Y as reinforcement, the SHORT arms has a X (the cross section near to the 3mm suspension pin).
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:52 PM
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are the short arms a different width from the kit? when I put them on with 4.5mm of spacers on the shaft my arms bind. This happened with the XA/C and XA/D. I removed the .5mm spacer and they are fine

edit: by width I mean on the kingpin
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Old 05-01-2008, 12:25 AM
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yes, they do bind but loosens after a while. i use 0.6mm instead of 1mm initially and slowly added it back to 1mm after a few runs. just shim it to however u like and watch out that there is not too much play after every few runs.
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what is min, max and desirable rear toe angle?
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbutstupid View Post
yes, they do bind but loosens after a while. i use 0.6mm instead of 1mm initially and slowly added it back to 1mm after a few runs. just shim it to however u like and watch out that there is not too much play after every few runs.
err... I may have... um... been using the .7mm shims by mistake

it's still tight but yeah not as bad

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what is min, max and desirable rear toe angle?
I find between 2 and 3 degrees suits most tracks. If the grip is really high then 1.5 might be ok, but I've usually found that if you need to go that low then you should be concentrating on other areas to find more steering
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Old 05-01-2008, 05:39 PM
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so what is the meaning with rebound in the Tamiya set up sheet??? Droop??
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Originally Posted by t4m1y4niac View Post
so what is the meaning with rebound in the Tamiya set up sheet??? Droop??
i believe its is talking about how far out the shock shaft pushes itself after you push it in all the way, off the car and with no spring obviously, someone correct me if i am wrong.
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Old 05-01-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by VenturaDC View Post
i believe its is talking about how far out the shock shaft pushes itself after you push it in all the way, off the car and with no spring obviously, someone correct me if i am wrong.
ok thx..
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:21 PM
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Nice spool! I can see why it took 6 months to design, if you look closely, you can see the silhouette of Jesus! It's the Jesus spool! Thanks Tamiya!

Anyway, the ends of my ball studs come down too far and hit the spool's outdrives. I believe I can use shorter studs, but it may affect how much adjustment I can make up front? I'll have to experiment with different studs and see where I'm at.

Did anybody notice the bearing holders that come with the spool seem to be a significantly different plastic than those that come with the kit? It's kind of a light grey color.
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Old 05-01-2008, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by syndr0me View Post
Did anybody notice the bearing holders that come with the spool seem to be a significantly different plastic than those that come with the kit? It's kind of a light grey color.
yep I noticed that, I was building my car from scratch so I had the two to compare. I went with the spool ones, I figured maybe they were an upgraded compound or something
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