Team Corally RDX Phi
#2101
I'm not trying to be a dick..............but you guys are way off on your spring choices. There is no need to run the same rear springs as a foam setup.
Rubber tire is all about weight transfer..........front and rear........and side to side. Springs that stiff and swaybars will do nothing buy keep the back end flat and maybe let the tires slide........but I guarantee sliding an asphalt car is not the best way around the track.
Rubber tire is all about weight transfer..........front and rear........and side to side. Springs that stiff and swaybars will do nothing buy keep the back end flat and maybe let the tires slide........but I guarantee sliding an asphalt car is not the best way around the track.
#2102
I think you need to try to get the front and back ends of the car to roll over at the same time........or maybe even let it roll over the back end more than the front.
My guess is that you guys were keeping the back end flatter and letting the front end dive.......and thats where your steering was coming from.
The things I would put on your "try" list:
Kick up....the .6 deg blocks seem perfect with 3 deg castor blocks
Go soft on the rear spring.......12 or 14 lb in the middle hole on arm
Go narrow in the front......like Mike said....the car turns better if its narrow
I'm not sold on the rear arms up front or the super short wheelbase.......they both have some positive effects but I think they carry some negative effects also........not bad thing to do but i'm just not convinced its needed.
My guess is that you guys were keeping the back end flatter and letting the front end dive.......and thats where your steering was coming from.
The things I would put on your "try" list:
Kick up....the .6 deg blocks seem perfect with 3 deg castor blocks
Go soft on the rear spring.......12 or 14 lb in the middle hole on arm
Go narrow in the front......like Mike said....the car turns better if its narrow
I'm not sold on the rear arms up front or the super short wheelbase.......they both have some positive effects but I think they carry some negative effects also........not bad thing to do but i'm just not convinced its needed.
#2103
How much different is the kickup coupler clamp compared to just flipping one of the couplers over?
#2104
I'm pretty sure flipping the dots is equal to 1.5 deg
#2106
I think you need to try to get the front and back ends of the car to roll over at the same time........or maybe even let it roll over the back end more than the front.
My guess is that you guys were keeping the back end flatter and letting the front end dive.......and thats where your steering was coming from.
The things I would put on your "try" list:
Kick up....the .6 deg blocks seem perfect with 3 deg castor blocks
Go soft on the rear spring.......12 or 14 lb in the middle hole on arm
Go narrow in the front......like Mike said....the car turns better if its narrow
I'm not sold on the rear arms up front or the super short wheelbase.......they both have some positive effects but I think they carry some negative effects also........not bad thing to do but i'm just not convinced its needed.
My guess is that you guys were keeping the back end flatter and letting the front end dive.......and thats where your steering was coming from.
The things I would put on your "try" list:
Kick up....the .6 deg blocks seem perfect with 3 deg castor blocks
Go soft on the rear spring.......12 or 14 lb in the middle hole on arm
Go narrow in the front......like Mike said....the car turns better if its narrow
I'm not sold on the rear arms up front or the super short wheelbase.......they both have some positive effects but I think they carry some negative effects also........not bad thing to do but i'm just not convinced its needed.
#2107
After traction dropped I was at 17 lb front, 14 rear in middle hole on arm one in on tower, with standard arms in front with narrow steering knuckles. Car was shimmed with 2mm on each side in front but still narrower than back. Worked ok when track was cold, but when warmer car pushed again bad. I ran kickup when I first got to the track but put both dots down in front and up in back as we progressed and it felt better.
#2108
Tech Rookie
rdx phi - help
can anyone suggest where i can go for a simple first time user set up for this car ?
phil
phil
#2109
For use on carpet or asphalt? Name the track if you know.
With what front end? Dif, spool or one-way?
What motor?
And anything else you already know.
This info should yield you a good response.
Bill
#2110
Front shock one hole in on tower. pushed on power. Remember, the track conditions changed very dramatically, so what worked an hour ago often didn't work later. The track temp was 130f in the heat, then after the rain when it was cool, it was 60f. I ran 17lb front and rear with copper sways both at night and it was squirly with too much steering- mainly cause of the back end being so unbalanced- that's why I ended up with the listed set up and I think that combo might have worked better when it was warmer, although even better super stiff when it got hot= around 22 lbs which is where we were when practice was over and the track hot.
#2111
James, he has no idea what track conditions we went threw and the tires we were running...You did a great job and you had the best corally out there.... GOOD JOB
#2112
Hi guys i am new to on road and have just bought a second hand but new phi eu spec.
I will be running this on carpet though.
should i get the chassis stiffner and the thicker top deck to run on carpet?
dont want to go though all the pages so i was wondering what would be a good starting setup for carpet. I have all diff options for the front, Diff, oneway, spool.
foam or rubber tyres?
general setup: camber, caster, shocks etc etc.
thanks in advance
peter
I will be running this on carpet though.
should i get the chassis stiffner and the thicker top deck to run on carpet?
dont want to go though all the pages so i was wondering what would be a good starting setup for carpet. I have all diff options for the front, Diff, oneway, spool.
foam or rubber tyres?
general setup: camber, caster, shocks etc etc.
thanks in advance
peter
#2113
Hi guys i am new to on road and have just bought a second hand but new phi eu spec.
I will be running this on carpet though.
should i get the chassis stiffner and the thicker top deck to run on carpet?
dont want to go though all the pages so i was wondering what would be a good starting setup for carpet. I have all diff options for the front, Diff, oneway, spool.
foam or rubber tyres?
general setup: camber, caster, shocks etc etc.
thanks in advance
peter
I will be running this on carpet though.
should i get the chassis stiffner and the thicker top deck to run on carpet?
dont want to go though all the pages so i was wondering what would be a good starting setup for carpet. I have all diff options for the front, Diff, oneway, spool.
foam or rubber tyres?
general setup: camber, caster, shocks etc etc.
thanks in advance
peter
#2114
-DC-
#2115
I can tell you none of the invite guys went crazy on springs (certainly not 8 lbs change)Why is that........do they not know what they are doing???
Corally collectively got their ass's kicked at this race............is it because the car is no good..........hell no, its won everywhere else.................its because nobody nailed the setup.
Take my advice for what it is..........ADVICE............if you don't want to listen thats fine with me..............but do not try and tell me I don't know what i'm talking about, I did my research before posting