That top hole of the exotek hubs combined with the diff shims will make it so the dog bones won't have enough engagement while in full droop.

I was able to make these HB rear axle rebuild kit longer dog bones resolve the issue. You have to do some minor filing so they fit the outdrives properly but its minimal.

I think I got the top and bottom confused. Looks like a decent option if you need to run that setup. On clay I haven't needed the shims

The arm needs to be shaved down 1.5mm when you flip them around, otherwise the hub is too far forward when compared to stock setup.

Here are some pics, I may have already posted these, but don't remember.

You are right it didn't prove to be necessary on my clay track. I have just been playing around with extremes setup changes so I can identify the changes better. I don't feel I tend to pick up on the subtle differences so when I do extreme changes I can tell right away what the affect may be then tone it down till I like it.

I don't race (yet) but I enjoy being fast and in control on the track!

That's a very good idea actually. It'll help you in the long run with deciding what setup changes you need rather than guessing I would do it myself but every setup change I do are spoons I don't want to use lol (spoons = energy with Lupus)

I did shave them down but I think the exotek hubs m8ght have exaggerated the problem

I believe the Exotek hubs replicate stock geometry so they shouldn't make it any worse, unless you're using the hinge pin hole that's closer to the axle, which I wouldn't recommend.

That's what I did . I thought it would help the geometry when using the diff risers

Understanding setups is a big part of the hobby that I like. Its fun to play with and learn what does what too me anyhow.

Rarely has someone else's setup worked for me without changing something slightly to suit me.

Same here as far as using someone elses setup. I usually start with the kit setup and work from them or in my current case, I went with the recommended 13.5 setup and made my own changes where I felt I needed it. Like I run no front sway bar and my ride height is different than what the setup asks for. Mostly just the shocks and diffs are the same as the recommended setup lol

Are you using the optional C and D plates when you're using the riser pads?

I just changed to the 13.5 setup. Going to give it go this weekend hopefully. Who knows where it will end up at though.

Yes

Is the EB410 a good choice for 13.5 spec class on high traction turf or does it need a bunch of upgrades/fixes out of the box to be competitive. I am torn between this buggy and the XB4 2018.