Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road
Tekno RC EB410 Thread >

Tekno RC EB410 Thread

Like Tree2343Likes

Tekno RC EB410 Thread

    Hide Wikipost
Old 05-13-2019, 06:33 AM   -   Wikipost
R/C Tech ForumsThread Wiki: Tekno RC EB410 Thread
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been a member for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: tobamiester
Welcome to the EB410 Wiki page.

Basic Stats/Features:
  • Shaft drive (tapered AL for light weight and straightness)
  • Gear differentials (all 3)
  • Low Angle CVAs (with captured pins so no ejecting them!)
  • Durable stub axles with 12mm hexes and optional offset adjustments
  • Reverse bellcrank steering system
  • Quick access bulkheads (for easy diff maintenance and tuning)
  • Spllt center diff holder (for easy diff maintenance and tuning)
  • 8th scale style motor mount (for easy mesh adjustment)
  • 13mm big bore shocks
  • 3.5mm shock shafts
  • Droop screws

Videos
Servo Horns
Tekno included a plastic servo horn but also offers an aluminum one. This is highly recommended. Here's a list of servo horns that have been found to work:
Gearing:
Works out of the box for mod or 13.5.
  • Preference for Associated factory team pinions
  • Start mod gearing around 21t pinion
  • Start 13.5 gearing around 29t pinion with the stock spur (81tooth). If using a Tekin Spec R 13.5, start with a 24t pinion for medium sized indoor tracks.
  • Internal Gear Ratio: 2.5:1
  • For comparison:
  • B64 is 2.47:1
  • 22-4 is 2.4:1
  • YZ4 is 2.6:1

Wheels
  • B6/22/rb6 wheels direct fit
  • 22-4/XB4 front wheels direct fit
  • B64 front wheels will fit, but you need the +1 hexes (can use #TKR1654X, which is a +1mm hex)
  • 22 2wd front wheels will also fit, possibly a good option for carpet.

Setup Sheets and other documentation
Setup sheets for all Tekno RC vehicles can be found here. Please be sure to try our recommended setup. It works very well on most tracks.
Piston Drills:
Some of our setups recommend using pistons that are enlarged. For instance 4x1.9 or 3x2.0. To drill the pistons we recommend the following:
Aftermarket Upgrades:
Warranty Policy:
Tekno RC is the only company in the industry that will give 50% off of parts if returned to them using the General Warranty return policy found on their website. The parts can be lightly used or completely abused, as long as the part is still being produced it's covered!


Build Tips:
  • When fastening the steering posts with a 5.5mm socket wrench, you can back space the socket with some nuts to help drive the post into the bulk head

  • Place an alcohol swab over metal threads and drive screws through the swab to clean both sides of threads before applying thread lock

  • Use a metallic marker to indicate what fluids you have filled in your diffs for easy identification

  • Apply thin layer of grease on crown gears to help hold gaskets in place for easy hole alignment

  • Bags F and H have 2 different size set screws, be sure to use the smaller 3x3mm screws for the hexes or you may run into problems installing wheels over the hex if you use the longer 3x4mm screws
  • To make is easier to slip the o-rings on the shock cap bleeder screws, apply a drop of shock oil and slip them over a 1.5mm hex bit, then line up the bit with the screw and transfer the o-ring over using fingernails or needle nose pliers
  • pinch+rotate shock caps in 17mm hex wrench to improve roundness
    More shock build tips here
  • Use a 3.05mm drill bit or 3.05mm Kyosho arm reamer, 1/8" drill bits are not recommended because they are 3.17mm in diameter and tend to introduce too much slop, the pins are roughly 2.97mm in diameter
  • Replace the stock 3x14mm screws (TKR1405) with 3x20mm screws (TKR1409) in step H-10 in the manual in order to increase durability to the bulkhead.

  • When installing the front and rear differentials into the bulkheads be careful when tightening the 3x8mm screws of the cover that holds the diff in place. Bottom out the screws first (use a hand driver and make it hand tight) then check the diff to make sure it rotates smooth. If it binds up, start by backing out each screw 1/8-1/4 of a turn until the both front and rear diffs move freely. The plastic threads will keep the screws in place so don't worry if you think the screws are not secure.
  • When installing the steering hub kingpins (TKR6596), drive each one in hand tight only. Then check the movement of the steering hub. If it binds up, back out the kingpin screws by 1/8-1/4 of a turn until it moves freely. Then install the set screws (TKR1601) to hold it in place. Only drive the set screw in until you make contact with the kingpin. Do not force it.
  • If using the low profile servo mount, be sure to use smaller OD (outter diameter) washers to avoid rubbing on the center drive shaft. Protek ball stud washers are a good example of the acceptable diameter. You can chose to not run washers though it is recommended to use them as it makes for a more secure mount.

  • Ball Cup Alternative from AE: ASC91453. These are used as a harder composite option if you are not happy with the softer stock plastics. Note that these are approximately 2-3mm shorter and require compensation when building your kit to the manual specs to achieve proper camber/toe settings


  • Wheel Nut Alternative: Yokomo 4mm Thin Aluminum Serrated Flanged Nut

    https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...-n4flt/p541494


  • Moving Rear Shocks to the Front of the A-arm

    This is the break down of what's required by one of the Eb410 FB users.

    Joey A.

    So since there has been some people wondering about running the shocks in the front of the arm I though I would try explaining everything that I did to get them to work and why. My goal was to run as much stock stuff as possible with the least amount of modifications.

    -Arms- need to be flipped and 1mm shaved off the back (spacing the arm farther back) running it this way the car is still a mm shorter then stock but more material could be removed for more adjustability but I have found no need to make the car longer.

    -Inner ball stud- there are 2 ways of mounting, the first can be used with the stock plastic tower. All you need to do is use a 10mm ball stud instead of the lower shock mount screw and a little clearance from the shock tower and diff case. Using this method will work but the ball stud is moved lower and farther in then the stock locations which requires different pivot locations to try and correct roll centers. The other way (preferred) using the option carbon tower drill a hole higher and farther out if done properly you will be able to get the ball stud location in the correct hight(0mm) and between the two stock locations.

    -Shocks- only 2 changes from stock you will need to space the top shock mount 2mm out. You will also need to run around 1.5-2mm less droop depending on your setup.

    -Sway bar- this is the hardest part of the swap. This can be done a million ways I chose to print a mount in the stock ball stud location which allowed me to use the stock swaybars and arm mounting position. You can also bend your own bar and use the stock mounts on the back. You will have to drill your arms on the other side and closer to the pivot for this to work (remember you will need a thinner bar the closer you mount the lower pickup on the arm to get the same feeling as stock).

    -Other- you will need to remove the drop screws on the rear arm. Depending on rear rims,hubs,ballcups and setup you might need to clearance the outer ball cup so it doesn’t rub on the wheel.

    -Why- the benefits of running the shocks in the front are the ability to run a softer rear shock package without giving up corner speed and pack. The car will land without chassis slapping or packing out as easy allowing you to drive the car harder and it corners flatter and rotates faster without losing rear grip.

    Sorry for the shity grammar,
    TJR

    Sway bar mount for forward mounted shocks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tekno-EB410...4AAOSwYNxahFkq

Print Wikipost

Reply

Old 03-09-2018, 01:50 PM
  #3991  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (18)
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Seattle
Posts: 746
Trader Rating: 18 (100%+)
Default

I was wondering about that myself. I did figure it was a one or the other option though. Good to know that is the case.

Originally Posted by SnotRkt View Post
DO NOT RUN COMPOSITE REAR DIFF GEARS WITH THE EXOTEK SPOOL!!!

Unless you need a quick way to turn composite gears into chunky shards soup. Ask me how I know... 13.5 on Carpet.
Tbuggy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2018, 02:07 PM
  #3992  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (35)
 
rvrslt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Torrance CA
Posts: 968
Trader Rating: 35 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by SnotRkt View Post
DO NOT RUN COMPOSITE REAR DIFF GEARS WITH THE EXOTEK SPOOL!!!

Unless you need a quick way to turn composite gears into chunky shards soup. Ask me how I know... 13.5 on Carpet.
Before the rear gave up on you how did it feel? Was changing to the composite gears worth the time? Well if you don't use the spool that is.
rvrslt1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2018, 11:19 AM
  #3993  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (13)
 
SnotRkt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Southeast PA
Posts: 613
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by rvrslt1 View Post
Before the rear gave up on you how did it feel? Was changing to the composite gears worth the time? Well if you don't use the spool that is.
Car felt completely different using the same diff fluids with the compo gears. Felt loose. Putting the steel gears back in made it feel a lot better. I left the compo gears in the front for now...
SnotRkt is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2018, 12:52 PM
  #3994  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (35)
 
rvrslt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Torrance CA
Posts: 968
Trader Rating: 35 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by SnotRkt View Post
Car felt completely different using the same diff fluids with the compo gears. Felt loose. Putting the steel gears back in made it feel a lot better. I left the compo gears in the front for now...
So do you think going up on the diff fluid would be good with the light weight gears?
rvrslt1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2018, 04:32 PM
  #3995  
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 217
Default



Something a bit different for battery straps. Borrowed from a sct410.3.
sea1swk is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2018, 07:40 AM
  #3996  
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 120
Default Skid plate

Anyone make a thin sheet metal skid plate for this buggy?
proliteandsc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2018, 07:45 AM
  #3997  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (41)
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: westbrook maine
Posts: 940
Trader Rating: 41 (98%+)
Default

Anyone running this buggy on turf?? In the market for a 4x buggy. Looking at the losi 22-4 and the tekno. Any info you could share would be helpful.

Thank you
wheres_yogi is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2018, 06:40 PM
  #3998  
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 217
Default

I ran on indoor clay, rear shocks in front of the rear tower. Nice! Only way to fly.
sea1swk is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2018, 06:45 PM
  #3999  
Super Moderator
iTrader: (21)
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,599
Trader Rating: 21 (100%+)
Default

update for you guys.

center diff with the new light weight gears and stock front drive shaft = 29 grams
schelle b64 slipper with TWorkz lighte weight front drive shaft = 29 grams

No longer a must to run the slipper. Now you only need to run it if you like the handling characteristics.
EbbTide likes this.
Bob Barry is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2018, 07:12 AM
  #4000  
Tech Master
iTrader: (40)
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Harford Co. Maryland
Posts: 1,110
Trader Rating: 40 (100%+)
Default

Ran the Exotek Steel D block this weekend. It shoots sparks when the tail bottoms out.
MikeR, HeavyD99, EbbTide and 2 others like this.
Scott R is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2018, 07:31 AM
  #4001  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (18)
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Seattle
Posts: 746
Trader Rating: 18 (100%+)
Default

I like it...an added feature they didn't mention!!
Scott R likes this.
Tbuggy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2018, 07:35 AM
  #4002  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (35)
 
rvrslt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Torrance CA
Posts: 968
Trader Rating: 35 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Bob Barry View Post
update for you guys.

center diff with the new light weight gears and stock front drive shaft = 29 grams
schelle b64 slipper with TWorkz lighte weight front drive shaft = 29 grams

No longer a must to run the slipper. Now you only need to run it if you like the handling characteristics.
Did you notice important in Exceller ration with the composite gears? I have them now but have not had time to instal. Also bought the new Schuur Speed V4. 👍🏻
charvel74 likes this.
rvrslt1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2018, 10:49 AM
  #4003  
Tech Master
iTrader: (18)
 
boudin4evr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 1,857
Trader Rating: 18 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Scott R View Post
Ran the Exotek Steel D block this weekend. It shoots sparks when the tail bottoms out.
like our titanium golf drivers back in the day!
Scott R likes this.
boudin4evr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2018, 11:26 AM
  #4004  
Super Moderator
iTrader: (21)
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,599
Trader Rating: 21 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by rvrslt1 View Post
Did you notice important in Exceller ration with the composite gears? I have them now but have not had time to instal. Also bought the new Schuur Speed V4. 👍🏻
yeah I ran with the mod 4wd guys at a race this weekend and honestly no one realized it. I also did the new axles too. I did a rebuild yesterday. After I reinstall my electronics and everything I'll weigh my car. I'm expecting it to be around 1680. My cars are always typically on the heavy side.
Bob Barry is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2018, 11:41 AM
  #4005  
Tech Legend
iTrader: (256)
 
Cain's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: West Fargo, North Dakota
Posts: 31,419
Trader Rating: 256 (100%+)
Default

any more news on the various piston options people are working on that go with more and smaller holes?
Cain is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service