XX-4 Forum
#2146
Return to Racing
Guys
After 12 years not racing i have returned and i am now running a XX4 WE. Great car but my fingers are lettingme down. reading through the forum, my god lots of pages, does anyone still have the XXX cr ali rear end hinge pin holder available?also will fitting this if have a big off tear the back out of the chassis.
Does anyone have an idea if they can still get the stiff spring for the clicker?.
Will post some pics of car as it has some different bits on it. Full e-speed shock tower braces, camber braces and ackerman mod. Also a tensioner on the side belt, stops that belt breaking and stripping.
Has anyone got any more ideas to try and make it bullet proof?
Also TLR shoud re-vamp this awesome car, as it is still better than a lot of stuff out there. Just needs updating on the drivetrain a bit and includin a CR rear end. May be big bores.
What does everyone think? Also has anyone tried big bores on one yet?
Regards
windy
After 12 years not racing i have returned and i am now running a XX4 WE. Great car but my fingers are lettingme down. reading through the forum, my god lots of pages, does anyone still have the XXX cr ali rear end hinge pin holder available?also will fitting this if have a big off tear the back out of the chassis.
Does anyone have an idea if they can still get the stiff spring for the clicker?.
Will post some pics of car as it has some different bits on it. Full e-speed shock tower braces, camber braces and ackerman mod. Also a tensioner on the side belt, stops that belt breaking and stripping.
Has anyone got any more ideas to try and make it bullet proof?
Also TLR shoud re-vamp this awesome car, as it is still better than a lot of stuff out there. Just needs updating on the drivetrain a bit and includin a CR rear end. May be big bores.
What does everyone think? Also has anyone tried big bores on one yet?
Regards
windy
#2147
Tech Champion
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Guys
After 12 years not racing i have returned and i am now running a XX4 WE. Great car but my fingers are lettingme down. reading through the forum, my god lots of pages, does anyone still have the XXX cr ali rear end hinge pin holder available?also will fitting this if have a big off tear the back out of the chassis.
After 12 years not racing i have returned and i am now running a XX4 WE. Great car but my fingers are lettingme down. reading through the forum, my god lots of pages, does anyone still have the XXX cr ali rear end hinge pin holder available?also will fitting this if have a big off tear the back out of the chassis.
I think most of us here would agree with you that the XX-4 re-booted would be an instant race winner at top level. It's still a winner now.
#2148
R/C Tech Elite Member
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Hope this helps!
Schumacher arms are the way to go... they are a perfect match. I used some old shock shafts and put the nut side out towards the front and C-cliped the back I use the front bulk head mod but cut notches for the nuts in the front bumper. Guys.... its easy and perfect match. They are twice as beefy! Do it pics later today!
#2150
Tech Fanatic
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my xx-4/22 project... almost complete
This is a project I have been working for sometime. It is a xx-4, with a complete tlr22-mid rear-end on it. Everything is fully functional, ie.. xx-4 diff, belt clearance, belt adjustment, & tlr 22 toe-in, anti-squat, etc..
The rear shocks still have ballcups on the bottom, from when it was a standard xx-4, and will now be replaced with standards shock bottom eyelets.
I literally just finished the car, this far, 2days ago, and I cannot track test it until next weekend. Our local track races 2x a month, and no practice unless its on race-day.
I do need to switch the rear 4deg LRC block for a 3-4deg HRC inorder to maintain 2deg standard anti-squat, and this weekend I am replacing the delrin suspension plate with a better 2mm aluminum or 1mm steel.
I would LOVE to see a TLR revise the xx-4!
these are the 1st set of pics. I've even included a pic of the car before the mod.
Just wanted to see what kinda feedback & maybe additional ideas I might get back from y'all!
The rear shocks still have ballcups on the bottom, from when it was a standard xx-4, and will now be replaced with standards shock bottom eyelets.
I literally just finished the car, this far, 2days ago, and I cannot track test it until next weekend. Our local track races 2x a month, and no practice unless its on race-day.
I do need to switch the rear 4deg LRC block for a 3-4deg HRC inorder to maintain 2deg standard anti-squat, and this weekend I am replacing the delrin suspension plate with a better 2mm aluminum or 1mm steel.
I would LOVE to see a TLR revise the xx-4!
these are the 1st set of pics. I've even included a pic of the car before the mod.
Just wanted to see what kinda feedback & maybe additional ideas I might get back from y'all!
Last edited by Beau S; 10-28-2011 at 11:01 PM. Reason: change a pic
#2151
Tech Fanatic
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my xx-4/22 project... almost complete.. 2nd post
This is my 2nd set of pics.
I will be racing this car at the Fall Classic in Hutchinson KS.. suppose to be a very high-bite Med-sized indoor track, my local indoor track is tight & med-low traction, and then I'll race it on the ACR Tulsa, OK track by the end of the month.
Btw.. The Shuey CatSX2 front medium flex arms are and EXACT geometry match to the kit xx-4 arms. They are just thicker and use a 3mm hinge-pin on the inside hole. The kits half-thread screws that bolt into the Caster Block do not need any modifaction. I have runs these arms for 2years and have never broke one.. I would regularly break a stock xx-4, especially when racing in colder temps.
My next project is to modify the front-end to try and utilize the TLR22 front suspension, since the 22's front geometry is the same as the xx-4 Its a tougher project..
I will be racing this car at the Fall Classic in Hutchinson KS.. suppose to be a very high-bite Med-sized indoor track, my local indoor track is tight & med-low traction, and then I'll race it on the ACR Tulsa, OK track by the end of the month.
Btw.. The Shuey CatSX2 front medium flex arms are and EXACT geometry match to the kit xx-4 arms. They are just thicker and use a 3mm hinge-pin on the inside hole. The kits half-thread screws that bolt into the Caster Block do not need any modifaction. I have runs these arms for 2years and have never broke one.. I would regularly break a stock xx-4, especially when racing in colder temps.
My next project is to modify the front-end to try and utilize the TLR22 front suspension, since the 22's front geometry is the same as the xx-4 Its a tougher project..
Last edited by Beau S; 10-28-2011 at 10:58 PM. Reason: change a picture
#2154
#2157
My XX4 WE
Guys,
Have finally done some tiding up of the wiring and also a few changes.
Have another XX4 WE going to rebuild over time and also a spare solid graphite chassis aswell. Have been able to find a few on the web and also Oople.
Here is the spec of car.
XX4 WE.
MF2T rear hubs and CR2 rear arms.
Full E-speed shocktower supports(Front and Rear and also camber support bracket too)
E speed steering rack mod
Stiff one way clicker spring.
Schumacher Cat SX£ Medium flex front arms and caster blocks.
Bits you cannot see
Re-built diffs Tungston diff balls and cermaic thrust race
Side belt tensioner(Oople Mod from member Legacy555) as for more details with longer belt, fit and forget part.
Green front and rear belt,
Electrics
LRP SXX Stock Spec ESC
LRP Phaser 40Mhz Rx
KO Servo
Trinity D3 10.5 Motor
Revtech TLR 22 Stumpy pack and also Losi Xceleron packs Stumpy.
Sure there is more and most of the mods to try and bullet proof it.
Waiting for Shell, when done will post some more pics.
Enjoy Windy
Have finally done some tiding up of the wiring and also a few changes.
Have another XX4 WE going to rebuild over time and also a spare solid graphite chassis aswell. Have been able to find a few on the web and also Oople.
Here is the spec of car.
XX4 WE.
MF2T rear hubs and CR2 rear arms.
Full E-speed shocktower supports(Front and Rear and also camber support bracket too)
E speed steering rack mod
Stiff one way clicker spring.
Schumacher Cat SX£ Medium flex front arms and caster blocks.
Bits you cannot see
Re-built diffs Tungston diff balls and cermaic thrust race
Side belt tensioner(Oople Mod from member Legacy555) as for more details with longer belt, fit and forget part.
Green front and rear belt,
Electrics
LRP SXX Stock Spec ESC
LRP Phaser 40Mhz Rx
KO Servo
Trinity D3 10.5 Motor
Revtech TLR 22 Stumpy pack and also Losi Xceleron packs Stumpy.
Sure there is more and most of the mods to try and bullet proof it.
Waiting for Shell, when done will post some more pics.
Enjoy Windy
#2158
Tech Elite
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I'm letting her go...
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...ml#post9884484
Also have NIP unslotted graphite chassis and NIP MIP front CVDs F/S.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...ml#post9884484
Also have NIP unslotted graphite chassis and NIP MIP front CVDs F/S.
#2159
My XX4 WE
Guys,
The spec is as the earlier post with a few marginal changes as i go along for reliability.
But have finally got the shell mounted on the car and it is a great old skool design(originally used by Cliff Lett)a long time ago. Sprayed by Number 5 designs in the UK, would highly recommend his work, excellent value for money, packaging and turn around is superb. Enjoy my race preped car.
Will be rebuilding my other XX4 we to a higher standard as i go.
Any ideas to improve reliability are always appreciated.
regards
Windy
The spec is as the earlier post with a few marginal changes as i go along for reliability.
But have finally got the shell mounted on the car and it is a great old skool design(originally used by Cliff Lett)a long time ago. Sprayed by Number 5 designs in the UK, would highly recommend his work, excellent value for money, packaging and turn around is superb. Enjoy my race preped car.
Will be rebuilding my other XX4 we to a higher standard as i go.
Any ideas to improve reliability are always appreciated.
regards
Windy
#2160
Reliabilty Improvements for XX4
Guys
Have already got the tower braces front and rear on car, plus camber link, front hinge pin brace, already using cat sx2 mf front wishbones and caster blocks.
Is there anything else i can do to improve reliabilty except get a better person to drive the car???
Any help is great
Cheers
Windy
Have already got the tower braces front and rear on car, plus camber link, front hinge pin brace, already using cat sx2 mf front wishbones and caster blocks.
Is there anything else i can do to improve reliabilty except get a better person to drive the car???
Any help is great
Cheers
Windy