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Team Associated Laydown transmission conversion for B6D:
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B6: B6 Manual and setup sheets

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1) put inner bearing in hub
2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle
3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier
4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier
5) push outter bearing into hub carrier

using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.



I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM).

Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter:

Originally Posted by kdub
I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.

The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right.
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Old 01-01-2018, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tylem28
Wouldn’t you want to stay with the gear diff on high bite clay?
Maybe super high bite...like running slicks, but majority of the time you will see ball diff on any dirt
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Anyone else going to the Salt City Race in Kansas this next weekend?
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Originally Posted by Sully_
i'll have to check and make sure. My gearbox is raised as well so that may eliminate that issue. i'll keep an eye on it though . Thanks !
Next time at IRH ask Enoc, Goode, or Swenson to help you out.
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I've seen a few car listed for sale that say they have a gen 2 chassis, what does that mean? I've tried searching but didn't come up with any concrete info.
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I've seen a few car listed for sale that say they have a gen 2 chassis, what does that mean? I've tried searching but didn't come up with any concrete info.
Slightly more material in key places makes the updated one a little less flexable and less prone to bending. Its also a few grams heavier. There slightly darker anodization and the Associated logo is visible by the steering posts.
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Originally Posted by Oldbutlearning
Next time at IRH ask Enoc, Goode, or Swenson to help you out.
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got it sorted . seems to be workin out the way it is.
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Originally Posted by JsK
Slightly more material in key places makes the updated one a little less flexable and less prone to bending. Its also a few grams heavier. There slightly darker anodization and the Associated logo is visible by the steering posts.
Thank you!
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Hi guys,
I'm running a B6d on medium traction indoor dirt. The car is really easy to drive and stable but I am needing more mid-corner speed. I am unable to "drive" my way around this obstacle but am reluctant to switch to the laydown as I'm not sure this will help.

The setup I'm running is close to below (I am in middle hole on front arm). I am thinking of emulating a laydown setup (battery in forward position, shocks to outside on front arms) but any thoughts from the AE army are welcome and appreciated.
Team Associated B6D - Steven Hartson - OCRC Raceway - 26.06.2016
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When running a rear swaybar on a b6 on astro (indoor and out), what change to the handling can I expect, other than less roll? I've never had a swaybar on a 1/10 car before.
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Originally Posted by Davidka
Hi guys,
I'm running a B6d on medium traction indoor dirt. The car is really easy to drive and stable but I am needing more mid-corner speed. I am unable to "drive" my way around this obstacle but am reluctant to switch to the laydown as I'm not sure this will help.

The setup I'm running is close to below (I am in middle hole on front arm). I am thinking of emulating a laydown setup (battery in forward position, shocks to outside on front arms) but any thoughts from the AE army are welcome and appreciated.
Team Associated B6D - Steven Hartson - OCRC Raceway - 26.06.2016
IMO, the biggest difference between laydown and standup is how much more mid-corner speed you get. I noticed this on my B5M/B6 and my TLR 22T 3.0. It's not as much the weight distribution, but moving the weight down low. So a long way of saying I think you should try laydown.
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Originally Posted by Davidka
Hi guys,
I'm running a B6d on medium traction indoor dirt. The car is really easy to drive and stable but I am needing more mid-corner speed. I am unable to "drive" my way around this obstacle but am reluctant to switch to the laydown as I'm not sure this will help.

The setup I'm running is close to below (I am in middle hole on front arm). I am thinking of emulating a laydown setup (battery in forward position, shocks to outside on front arms) but any thoughts from the AE army are welcome and appreciated.
Team Associated B6D - Steven Hartson - OCRC Raceway - 26.06.2016
Lay down is the way to go at Trackside. Put Dustin’s latest set up to start with and try it
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Originally Posted by RazorRC
IMO, the biggest difference between laydown and standup is how much more mid-corner speed you get. I noticed this on my B5M/B6 and my TLR 22T 3.0. It's not as much the weight distribution, but moving the weight down low. So a long way of saying I think you should try laydown.
Yeah, there may be no escaping it. I'm just surprised at the difficulty I've had with getting corner speed out of this. I think it is a bigger short fall that can be explained by the standup/laydown difference.

I'll try the battery forward/front end changes to see if that's a step in the right direction. Laydown conversion kits are scarce, anyway.

This is what I have in mind:
http://site.petitrc.com/setup/associ...ion2017031012/
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Originally Posted by Davidka
Hi guys,
I'm running a B6d on medium traction indoor dirt. The car is really easy to drive and stable but I am needing more mid-corner speed. I am unable to "drive" my way around this obstacle but am reluctant to switch to the laydown as I'm not sure this will help.

The setup I'm running is close to below (I am in middle hole on front arm). I am thinking of emulating a laydown setup (battery in forward position, shocks to outside on front arms) but any thoughts from the AE army are welcome and appreciated.
Team Associated B6D - Steven Hartson - OCRC Raceway - 26.06.2016
I agree with others...lay down is the way to go. You'll notice better cornering right away. As far as emulating a lay down set up, im curious to here how that goes. cant way i disagree with it, if you cant / dont get the laydown.
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Originally Posted by beansor2bacon
I agree with others...lay down is the way to go. You'll notice better cornering right away. As far as emulating a lay down set up, im curious to here how that goes. cant way i disagree with it, if you cant / dont get the laydown.
Will do. This thing is weird. It's not terrible, it acts like I have the wrong front tires (I don't) on an otherwise good setup.

With laydown, are the 67mm dogbones and requisite hubs an absolute necessity?
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Just got my brand new b6d in the mail, tower made it hard to pass up at $229 and free shipping. I can't wait to go home and start building!
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