26LikesTLR 22 3.0 Race Kit Thread!
08-23-2016, 10:37 AM - Wikipost
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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.
Franks response: Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root). Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either. I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'. K.King Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea. 
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03-16-2016, 03:20 AM
#2371
Tech Adept
03-16-2016, 04:48 AM
#2373
What rear hubs was Dustin Evans running at Cactus Classic? They look different with four holes for various mounting positions.
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03-16-2016, 07:58 AM
#2374
Tech Adept
I am new to 2wd and only been racing for about a year and a half total (first 3 cars were 4wd...ebuggy, sct and 4wd mod buggy).
I was having fits handling my 2.0 with a 8.5 and HW v3.1. After several tuning adjustments to the car and getting in some practice, things were getting noticeably better. I had picked up a package of 2 of the front wings listed for the 3.0. It was a direct fit for the 2.0 as well.
Once I had built some confidence with the car and my driving, I decided to add the front wing and see what happened. After a couple laps, I was convinced that it was a benefit to my car and current setup. However, there are only 2-3 of us at our local track running them. Almost all the drivers have more experience than myself and consistently kick my butt without them. But, it seems to work for me and make my car a little better than without it.
I was having fits handling my 2.0 with a 8.5 and HW v3.1. After several tuning adjustments to the car and getting in some practice, things were getting noticeably better. I had picked up a package of 2 of the front wings listed for the 3.0. It was a direct fit for the 2.0 as well.
Once I had built some confidence with the car and my driving, I decided to add the front wing and see what happened. After a couple laps, I was convinced that it was a benefit to my car and current setup. However, there are only 2-3 of us at our local track running them. Almost all the drivers have more experience than myself and consistently kick my butt without them. But, it seems to work for me and make my car a little better than without it.
03-16-2016, 08:01 AM
#2375
What rear hubs was Dustin Evans running at Cactus Classic? They look different with four holes for various mounting positions.
http://www.liverc.com/photos/albums/...c/DSC_6795/lg/
http://www.liverc.com/photos/albums/...c/DSC_6795/lg/
03-16-2016, 01:07 PM
#2376
03-16-2016, 01:48 PM
#2377
This post I made a few weeks ago should answer your first two questions.
Yes I have run it and I thought the car was great as well as durable. The first time I ran it in stock buggy at my track I TQ'd and won.
Yes I have run it and I thought the car was great as well as durable. The first time I ran it in stock buggy at my track I TQ'd and won.
I stopped by Nick's pit at a race we both attended and looked at the car for a few seconds. It looks very professionally done. All the cuts are smooth and consistent, no jagged edges, great finish. It looked very structurally sound, and looked good on the track too. .
I'm pretty picky, so I was impressed that I was impressed!
We were both in the 17.5 A main, though I think we each had a race we'd like to do over. But I'll put that on the drivers. LOL
03-16-2016, 10:05 PM
#2378
To save me going through 100000 posts I just tested my new 3.0 on carpet tonight.....5 mins in and diff is screaming........I take it gear diff is a must for carpet? Thanks!
03-16-2016, 10:40 PM
#2379
Tech Adept
Yea, you should be able to fit a serpent srx2 gear diff in just fine with a little shimming
03-17-2016, 06:44 AM
#2380
Tech Initiate
http://www.amainhobbies.com/rc-cars-...sa2954/p209945
03-17-2016, 07:34 AM
#2381
Thanks guys!
03-17-2016, 08:10 AM
#2382
I'll probably take some flack for this, but I don't think a gear diff is a must for carpet. I run on a tight (10-12 sec laps depending on layout),high bite ozite track every week from Sept. to March and my diffs hold up just fine. I've been running a 22T 2.0 all season and it's just now starting to feel a touch gritty. Only 3 races left so I'll just wait and rebuild it for next season. I make sure my slipper is actually slipping just a little bit. Just my .02, if it's even worth that lol.
03-17-2016, 08:42 AM
#2383
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
I recommend the serpent srx2 diff. its amazing and it fits no problem with i think 3x .2mm kyosho shims on each side. its way better quality than the RTR 22 gear diff.
I was told to try 2 gear with 15k oil to have the gear diff feel similar to a ball diff on clay and still be good on carpet.
I was told to try 2 gear with 15k oil to have the gear diff feel similar to a ball diff on clay and still be good on carpet.
03-17-2016, 08:50 AM
#2384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EToj2yX76NU
03-17-2016, 02:47 PM
#2385
I use the Losi 22rtr diffs, but I've been thinking about trying the Serpent ones. The Losi are okay with different o-rings to stop the leaking, but the Serpent ones look much more durable. I also like that the gear is replaceable on the Serpent, whereas you'd have to replace the housing on the Losi if you chip a tooth on the gear.