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Instruction manuals: (C/O BentKa)

Xray XB2 Carpet Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...ual_v2_low.pdf

Xray XB2 Dirt Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...w.pdf?update=2

BentKa: Carpet Edition 4 gear to 3 gear laydown conversion parts:
  • Gearbox #323014
  • Motorplate #324012
  • 36T idler gear #324236
  • Brace for waterfall #324031


Socket: Bodies Available:

Xray has two OEM bodies, the .75mm and the .50mm light weight:
light weight: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-xb...329701/p492942

OEM .75mm: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-0....329700/p477762

Also, I've fitted the yz2 body, both the light and regular fit fine, just make your own cut lines:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...z2-101/p417674


[i] J Concepts S2 Body [i]


Penguin Racing makes a high grip body that fits the DE and CE:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Ray-Xb2-Hi...oAAOSw1S9WewHV



Socket: Wheel fitment:

According to some, you'll require different offset rear hexes to use B5M wheels. According to my Hudy setup board, B5M wheels are the same offset. I measured the overall width of the car with XB2 wheels, and then again with B5M wheels, same measurement.

On the front, B5M wheels were 1.5mm wider. Xray offers hexes to reduce width -.75 on each side, or you could spend 3-5 minutes and sand your OEM hexes down .75mm.

edit by dgrobe2112
here are the hubs for losi and AE

for AE Front 365354 -0.75
for Losi rear 365358 +3.00 (4 stripe)
for AE rear 365359 +3.75 (5 stripe) or add 1.5mm carbon avid spacers



Socket: Flex and the XB2:

Flex screws are as follows:

Plastic bulkhead between motor and waterfall. Can remove screw in chassis, or remove bulkhead altogether.

Waterfall has 4 screws, can remove the inner two or outer two. IIRC, removing the inner two provides more flex, and thus more bite.

Removing the battery brace. This gives a tremendous amount of flex on the middle of the car, and can sometimes be inconsistent. I do this for outdoor racing on low bite. I like the feel over the 4 gear in 17.5 racing, since the 4 gear will take some snap away off the corner.

Rear C block - has inner and outer screws. I haven't played with this, as it's a crucial pivot point of the car.

Medium arms and towers -> I don't believe the carpet car has the rear medium tower available, however the DE DOES have an optional hard part. I think the hard parts are more consistent, especially when it gets hot (90+ degrees F). However, the medium parts do NOT break unless you're severely talented. They also don't wear out.



Socket: Avid/Schelle Slipper mod:

Credit to WillS, Matt Trimmings, and myself for figuring this out months ago.

Parts you'll need:

B5M V2 3gear compatible top shaft.
TKO Special 5x13x5 bear OR 5x13x6 bearing Either can work. This replaces the spur side bearing on the top shaft.
5mm shims, same shims used in 1/8th scale clutch bells. Look for protek .1mm and .2mm kit.
Avid or Schelle b5m top shaft kit, with spur gears of your choosing. (DE can't handle a 69, the CE can)

Shimming: You'll need to install the bearing in the front portion of the removable piece for the shaft. Make sure the bearing is pushed all the way in. With the TKO bearing, you'll need to shim approximately 1.4mm on the front side of the top shaft. Roughly .3-.5mm with the other bearing. This is a "feel" and tolerance setting. I urge you to watch videos about setting clutch bell play in 1/8th scale to get an idea of what yield you want for end play. Too tight, it'll eat bearings.

Outside of trans case: Use Avid/Schelle top shaft spacer plus .2mm shim to offset slipper from motor plate perfectly. Install slipper as instructed, and use Avid/Schelle spring and XB2 slipper nut.

- NEW - Schelle now sells Xb2 Topshafts. They include a spacer, so no need for shims in gearbox, and comes with the smaller bearing. Both methods work.

Socket: Yokomo Differential or MIP pucks:

Credit to: WillS for figuring out pucks, and as well fitting the Losi 22 diff with the same mods.

Parts needed: Yokomo Bmax2 or YZ2 complete diff OR Mip PUCKS outdrives
Xb2 diff gear
Bmax2 V3 Worlds rear dog bones, or Bmax 2 pucks dog bones
You'll use XB2 axles, and will require no other mods for the axles or dog bones.
You'll need .2mm outdrive/diff shims. Shim approximately .5mm on each side of the diff, behind the bearings. The top portion of the transmission is what "sets" the diff in place, not the bottom half. A little play back and forth is fine, the stock diff has some play from the factory.

dgrobe2112: CE to DE conversion:
along with the parts needed.. you MUST have these following hardware, or it wont work

https://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/do...conversion.pdf

(3) XRAY 902340 M3x40 button head screws. these are the screws that mount the motor mount to the tranny
(4) XRAY 903322 M3x22 counter sunk screws. these are for the rear diff case, to mount to the chassis. i think i used some M3x18 and they worked ok.

Socket: Best method for setting up the XB2 ball diff:

The XB2 diff is stellar when setup correctly. The spring is too short and soft, allowing the diff to slip. You'll need to glue the rings to the outdrives with just a drop of CA, then add a 1mm shim between the spring and the outdrive. This preloads the spring and stops the diff from slipping so easily.

OR, you can run the AE diff spring, which is both slightly longer, and stiffer. The overwhelming issue is the stock spring allows the nut to bottom out on the outdrive before the diff is tight enough.

This shim:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-al...a303122/p12070

This diff spring (don't need a shim, then.)

https://www.teamassociated.com/parts...thrust_spring/

Functional Aftermarket parts: (Not just bling!)

Servo Horn: (The B5M sized horns are too short to get full throw)
https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-...800-bk/p273496


Socket: Exotek has a full suite of parts, some bling, some not. Here's a list (all fit DE and CE, unless otherwise noted):

Titanium front axles: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-titanium-front-axles-2/

Rear Hanger, HD (Adds 4 grams): http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...75-heavy-duty/

Brass C block, 18 grams added: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...-brass-weight/

Alloy front camber mount: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-fron...er-mount-7075/

Carbon Fiber Chassis: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-carb...m-plate-2-5mm/

Alloy rear hubs:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-allo...ub-set-2-7075/

Alloy servo mounts, allow for use of LP servo:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...-alloy-1-pair/

Titanium shock mounts: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...shock-posts-2/

Slipper Eliminator: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-direct-spur-mount/
Xray eliminator is #324100

dgrobe2112: 2016-2017 new 3 gear laydown
Gearbox #323014
Motor plate #324012
36T idler gear #324236
Brace for waterfall #324031

dgrobe2112: Xray Spring Rate Conversion:
front C WHT
368174 2 str 0.65-0.85 3.71-4.85

358184 2 dot 0.65 3.71
368185 3 dot 0.72 4.11
368186 4 dot 0.80 4.57


Rear
368273 2 str 0.35-0.45 2.00-2.57

368284 1 Dot 0.35 2.00
368285 2 Dot 0.40 2.28
368286 3 Dot 0.45 2.57
368287 4 Dot 0.50 2.86

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Old 09-18-2020, 09:14 AM
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Okay thanks. At first I was concerned about runs getting on the face of the carbon fiber plates but those could be covered with masking tape so just the edges are exposed
you put the CA onto a cotton bud (Q-tip) and then quickly rub it over the unlaminated edges (before it dries on the fluffy end and goes solid). Watch out for fumes; do it with plenty of ventilation and water a mask/safety goggles.
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I know the details of the 21 model are not out but apparently there's a plan to offer a kit to update the 20 to the 21. Sounds like a one-time thing because they know a lot of people haven't been able to use their current car with so much shutdown. Anyone hear anything like this?
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i just picked up either a 17 or 18 xb2. judging by the looks of it from the manuals i saw its the dirt version but it has the carpet battery strap. is there any major difference between the dirt and carpet?
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Originally Posted by freaksofnature
i just picked up either a 17 or 18 xb2. judging by the looks of it from the manuals i saw its the dirt version but it has the carpet battery strap. is there any major difference between the dirt and carpet?
Pretty much across the board is a gear diff for carpet and a ball diff for dirt. Actually the Xray website might tell you something. Whenever they upgrade to a new model they go into great detail to show you the differences between dirt and carpet. They probably did the same thing the year that was built. Can you post some photos? Good luck
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Originally Posted by Milkdudd
Pretty much across the board is a gear diff for carpet and a ball diff for dirt. Actually the Xray website might tell you something. Whenever they upgrade to a new model they go into great detail to show you the differences between dirt and carpet. They probably did the same thing the year that was built. Can you post some photos? Good luck
heres the pics. like i said the pics ive seen of both the 17 and 18 xb2 the spur for the carpet is on the left and the spur for the dirt is on the right but she has the removable battery hold down of the carpet not the flip up of the dirt


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As I was saying earlier when Xray comes out with a new model they really make a presentation of it. To me this is one of the most impressive things about their company. Here is a link to the 2017 buggy
https://teamxray.com/xb2c/2017/

And the 2018
https://teamxray.com/xb2c/2018/

All I did was a Google search by saying 2017 Xray XB2 and then I did the same thing for the 2018. If it isn't one of these just do the same thing for the 2016 and the 2019 and so on
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Originally Posted by Milkdudd
As I was saying earlier when Xray comes out with a new model they really make a presentation of it. To me this is one of the most impressive things about their company. Here is a link to the 2017 buggy
https://teamxray.com/xb2c/2017/

And the 2018
https://teamxray.com/xb2c/2018/

All I did was a Google search by saying 2017 Xray XB2 and then I did the same thing for the 2018. If it isn't one of these just do the same thing for the 2016 and the 2019 and so on
thanks. from what ive looked at thru the links and jusging by the chassis grooves i have the 18 version.
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Just wondering if anybody has heard anything about what changes are coming on the 21 version or if there is a release date. Thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by Milkdudd
Just wondering if anybody has heard anything about what changes are coming on the 21 version or if there is a release date. Thanks in advance
These will be available here in the UK from Friday but no details of changes from '20 to '21 which is very frustrating! My guess is there won't be any major changes otherwise xray would be pushing videos and press releases all over the Internet & YouTube by now.
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Originally Posted by jph98
These will be available here in the UK from Friday but no details of changes from '20 to '21 which is very frustrating! My guess is there won't be any major changes otherwise xray would be pushing videos and press releases all over the Internet & YouTube by now.
You can see all the new part numbers including the conversion kit from 20 to 21 available on a certain website. What surprises me is that nobody has even noticed that there is a new XSC and XT2 coming from Xray too. Part numbers are also listed on "said" website.
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Originally Posted by Tony Vega
You can see all the new part numbers including the conversion kit from 20 to 21 available on a certain website. What surprises me is that nobody has even noticed that there is a new XSC and XT2 coming from Xray too. Part numbers are also listed on "said" website.
Very interesting.
Can you share the link to "said" website?

Thx
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Very interesting.
Can you share the link to "said" website?

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There are a couple of websites in Europe showing part numbers of the new kits but the one with the most info is The Border based in the Netherlands.
https://www.the-border.com/xray-xt2c...on-320204.html
The new trucks have been mentioned in other threads so they're not a secret, but it's frustrating that xray are only talking about the xb4'21 right now.
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It seems the XB2's did not change much. Good to know my '20 model hasn't been completely redesigned before I even assemble it. On another note has Xray ever built a short course before?
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Originally Posted by jph98
The new trucks have been mentioned in other threads so they're not a secret, but it's frustrating that xray are only talking about the xb4'21 right now.
It is indeed very odd.
Mr Hudy himself on FB shared that the XB2 ´21 will be available in October, but still no info about its upgrades and specs. Perhaps they are channeling all their marketing resources towards the one platform (XB4) they did a lot of upgrades to?
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